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locked OT: question for anyone still running a Yahoo group

 

If anyone is still running a yahoo group, could you contact me offlist? I have some questions. I'm now running the groups.io "takeover" of our block's former yahoo group (they refused to transfer), but the yahoo group is still limping along in the background and I have some questions about what that moderator can and can't do in terms of inviting people to the old group, managing the membership list, etc. My email address is 
j.olivia.catlady [at] gmail.com, or you can PM me from this message.
Thanks.
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moderated Re: Column Width Problem

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 10:03 PM, Rich Morin wrote:
Even at our current 24 members, being limited to viewing 20 members at a time is a nuisance
Go to your Account settings, then Preferences; scroll down the page to Items Per Page; this will currently be on "20" but it can be set to 50, 100 or Infinite Scroll. If you change the setting don't forget to Update Preferences.

Note that this is an account level setting and will affect the presentation of all your groups. I have not tried it myself but there has been mention of Infinite Scroll sometimes giving trouble; others will be able to clarify. 

Chris


moderated Re: Column Width Problem

 

I also find it annoying that the email address column is (a) too narrow and (b) not adjustable. I'd like to have more reasonable default widths, as well as a way to adjust column widths interactively. (For extra credit, the web site could save my preferences somewhere.)

On a vaguely related note, I'd like to be able to (arbitrarily) increase the number of entries that are displayed.  I'm currently in the process of migrating a 600+ member meetup. Even at our current 24 members, being limited to viewing 20 members at a time is a nuisance; I hate to think what it will be like as the migration continues.

-r


moderated Re: Downloadable Groups.io Manual

txercoupemuseum.org
 

Thanks!

WRB

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On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:29 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 12:26 PM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
As far as I know, you won't receive any more messages in topics that are already in progress, so you won't have to do anything more to Unfollow them
That's correct. 
If there are any topics in progress that you are particularly interested in following, I think you would need to make a brief reply to them using the web interface. If there is a better way to do this, I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
Brief reply is probably the easiest way, but if not wanting to reply, you can go to All Topics in your groups.io page, click on the topic you want to follow, and then click on "follow this topic" at the top.

 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: Downloadable Groups.io Manual

txercoupemuseum.org
 

Robert,

Thank you.  I’ve never done any of this (to me such options are new and little time to figure out how to use), but your suggestions are to the point and I will try them and let you know how that works out.

Thanks!

WRB

“We should be thankful we don’t get all the government we pay for.” - Boss Kettering 

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On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:26 PM, West Coast Compañeros Staff <westcoastcompaneros@...> wrote:

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:46 AM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
At first, with the large number of topics in progress in GMF, you may need to Unfollow quite a few threads (again, using the footer options), but after that initial investment of time your participation in the group should become much more feasible for you. When you click on the Groups.io logo on the left side of the top blue bar, you wil have the option of viewing all topics or just those that you are following.
Sorry, the bold section in the quoted paragraph is wrong. As far as I know, you won't receive any more messages in topics that are already in progress, so you won't have to do anything more to Unfollow them. If there are any topics in progress that you are particularly interested in following, I think you would need to make a brief reply to them using the web interface. If there is a better way to do this, I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in.

Robert R.


moderated Re: Downloadable Groups.io Manual

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 12:26 PM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
As far as I know, you won't receive any more messages in topics that are already in progress, so you won't have to do anything more to Unfollow them
That's correct. 
If there are any topics in progress that you are particularly interested in following, I think you would need to make a brief reply to them using the web interface. If there is a better way to do this, I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
Brief reply is probably the easiest way, but if not wanting to reply, you can go to All Topics in your groups.io page, click on the topic you want to follow, and then click on "follow this topic" at the top.

 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Downloadable Groups.io Manual

West Coast Compañeros Staff
 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:46 AM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
At first, with the large number of topics in progress in GMF, you may need to Unfollow quite a few threads (again, using the footer options), but after that initial investment of time your participation in the group should become much more feasible for you. When you click on the Groups.io logo on the left side of the top blue bar, you wil have the option of viewing all topics or just those that you are following.
Sorry, the bold section in the quoted paragraph is wrong. As far as I know, you won't receive any more messages in topics that are already in progress, so you won't have to do anything more to Unfollow them. If there are any topics in progress that you are particularly interested in following, I think you would need to make a brief reply to them using the web interface. If there is a better way to do this, I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in.

Robert R.


moderated Re: Downloadable Groups.io Manual

West Coast Compañeros Staff
 

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 08:57 AM, txercoupemuseum.org wrote:
I am receiving upwards of a hundred emails in 24 hours from GMF.  As Owner of two groups that have operated decades with very little “moderation” I just can’t afford the time necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff.  So I will soon unsubscribe...I have another life which cannot afford the seemingly ever-increasing time necessary to even skim all these questions and answers.  Too much “noise”
WRB --

Before you take the radical step of unsubscribing, consider trying one of the advanced subscription options. (From the left side menu, select Subscription, then scroll down and click on Advanced Preferences.) The combination that might be most useful for your situation is Following Only, First Message Also, and Auto Follow Replies. These settings will work if you have selected Individual Emails or Digest, but do not override Special Notices or No Email.

With those options selected you should receive the first message in a new topic. You can choose Follow in the message footer if you want to continue receiving messages in this topic. Replying to the message has the same effect. If you do nothing, you won't get anything further on this topic. You will also receive all messages in topics that you start.

At first, with the large number of topics in progress in GMF, you may need to Unfollow quite a few threads (again, using the footer options), but after that initial investment of time your participation in the group should become much more feasible for you. When you click on the Groups.io logo on the left side of the top blue bar, you wil have the option of viewing all topics or just those that you are following.

Robert R.


moderated Re: Column Width Problem

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 05:51 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
Ctrl&- and Ctrl&+ ARE the browser's zoom functions.
As is a box in a drop - down.

Chris


moderated Re: Column Width Problem

Laurence Marks <marks@...>
 

Chris, Ctrl&- and Ctrl&+ ARE the browser's zoom functions.

Larry

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moderated Re: Column Width Problem

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 05:28 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
Have you considered simply pressing CTRL and - a time or two to zoon out when you are in this situation?
Or using the browser's zoom function. Well sort of... but it reduces the font size (obviously!) so at best I would see it as a stop - gap measure.

I would have hoped that every page would display correctly irrespective of the aspect ratio of a DU. (And I have since discovered that 4:3 is not an obsolete concept.)

Going from a page that "works" to the Member List, having to zoom out to see what status flags there are, doing anything necessary, then resetting the zoom before going on to another page that works correctly doesn't look like a long - term answer.

Chris


moderated Re: Finding posts by a member

Duane
 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 10:28 AM, Donald Hellen wrote:
It would be great to have a Boolean search capability
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 10:24 AM, Bill Hazel wrote:
What steps would I take to find a user in this group named Rony. (Just a random name I picked)
Is there an easy way to do this?
This conversation is drifting from the intent of the beta group - "to discuss the Groups.io service and how it can be improved during our beta period" (though I think we might better describe it as at least gamma ;>).  We should continue discussion on GMF or Group_Help.  I think I have answers.  If not someone else probably will.

BTW, Boolean should work if you use the correct terminology.

Duane


moderated Re: Finding posts by a member

 

I'm glad this is being resurrected, because I find it to be a distinct problem. I reread the beginning of this thread and recall that at one point, Mark was willing to consider an improvement, and various options were being discussed. That seems to have gotten lost in the wake of all the other things that have come up, e.g., the Yahoo transfers. I hope an improvement is still being considered.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Column Width Problem

Laurence Marks <marks@...>
 

As another 4:3 holdout, I have to ask:

Have you considered simply pressing CTRL and - a time or two to zoon out when you are in this situation?

Press and hold Ctrl
Press and release the minus key
Release Ctrl

Repeating this sequence continues the zoom. Pressing Ctrl and + zooms in to reverse the operation.
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Larry Marks


moderated Re: RFE: Some ideas for locking topics #suggestion

ro-esp
 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

The notice should have the *same* subject line as the topic
Ideally, *in digests*, the indication "this thread is locked" should appear in the content-list of the digest, so people know the thread is locked before reading the messages or even replying to them


groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


moderated Re: Finding posts by a member

Donald Hellen
 

Duane . . .


On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:16:16 -0800, "Duane" <txpigeon@...>
wrote:

Many things like this ARE available, but you have to be willing to learn how the site works, just like you do for any other. (YG comes to mind.)
It would be great to have a Boolean search capability to look for:

this AND that BUT NOT other

or

this OR that BUT NOT other

Like what PG Offline did for Yahoo Groups, which had poor search
capabilities.

I'm referring to having it all in one place so that extensive
knowledge of how the site works wouldn't be needed, and the typical
user, a novice to PC stuff, could work with it.

Donald


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moderated Re: RFE: Some ideas for locking topics #suggestion

 

I agree that the situation is not optimal, but have not taken the time to digest and be able to comment on your specific suggested improvements. I will say that currently, because of the problems you mention, I rarely lock topics. Instead, if a topic is current, I post a message that it is "now closed" and then I put it on moderation. If someone posts after that, I am able to politely reject the message with a private comment that "this topic is closed." Sometimes I can make other suggestions to the person about alternative things they can do (e.g., contact the person privately, start a new thread, etc.).

FYI, in answer to your speculation, the bounce message for a locked topic does include a "reason" ("this topic has been locked by a moderator," or something like that - don't remember the exact verbiage). But even with that, the situation is probably frustrating for people, as you describe. I lock topics now only when they are either very old and no longer active, or in dire situations that have gotten totally out of control, etc. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Finding posts by a member

Bill Hazel
 

Duane,
As my good friend Mork from Orc used to say: "Oh, dummy me"
I had forgotten that I could find all my posts through the subscription menu. I had actually seen the "All messages by this user" link when I was creating my user profile, just hadn't put 2 and 2 together.

What I had tried, in response to this thread, was searching for my name in the message search with no results.

Finding another member isn't nearly as straightforward, at least as far as I can tell.
What steps would I take to find a user in this group named Rony. (Just a random name I picked)
Is there an easy way to do this?

If so, I'm willing to put together a wikipage describing the various processes and add it to the wiki, both here and on the GMF group.


moderated Double/single spaced digest index

debbie
 

It used to be that the digest came with the index single spaced. On December 24, it suddenly became double spaced. I am finding that very inconvenient and would like it to be changed back to single spaced.

Thanks,

Debbie


moderated RFE: Show subject line tags in message+topics list view #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

Hello

I've noticed that when I use the multi-group message list, the subject lines of messages have their groups' subject line tags to show which message is from which group, but when I view the message list for just one group, the subject line tags are not shown.

I realise that subject line tags are not necessary if all messages are from the same group, but still, if someone views or follows messages from multiple groups at roughly the same time, it would be nice to have a visual indicator (apart from the small bit of text indicating the group name when you scroll to the top of the page) which group's messages you're looking at, particularly if there are highly similar groups, sometimes even with overlapping membership.

So, I suggest that the group-specific message list should also display subject line tags. This will help users who are members of more than one list know which list they're looking at.

(There's no need for these subject line tags to be present in "expanded" view -- my RFE is for the messages list view and topics list view only.)

Samuel