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moderated Account subscribed...but it's not #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- I was using one of my email addresses for system testing of an inquiry from some folks in GMF (or Group_Help, not sure which). In the course of doing so, I deleted and re-created that account a couple of times.

This morning, that address is no longer subscribed to my test group; but when I attempt to send it an invitation, I get an error message that it is "already subscribed." When I post a message to the group, that address does not receive the post; and when I attempt to log in under that address using "email me a link," the email never arrives. When I send a +subscribe message from that address to another group I have, nothing comes back.

I wish I could provide the exact sequence on my end that led to this problem, but I cannot reconstruct that a day later. Sorry. Wondering now if you witnessed this activity and implemented a system-wide ban on the address. Please contact me off-list if you need the group name and email address.

FYI,
Bruce


moderated view/change plan #bug

Duane
 

Based on your (Mark's) reply at https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/27017 I've done a little further checking (with assistance from Shal).  It turns out that if anyone has made a payment for a group, none of the other owners can see the View/Change Plan page without entering a CC number to set themselves as payor, removing the original payor.  Until a payment is made, any owner can see the page.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

I think Mark has been at work!  I now see a Ban Sender button at the bottom of the offending emails.  I am sure it was not there before but I could be wrong.

Anyway...... Thanks Mark for all the wonderful work you do looking after all of our grievances and petty problems.

Pamela


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

Unfortunately - or fortunately (however you look at it) - our group is a Charity.  Although it is privately listed on groups.io,  I get a lot of enquiries from 'word of mouth' sources from individuals offering support but not wanting to join the group.

Catch22 situation

Pamela


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

Please disregard my request.  I will live with it.  Obviously no-one else has this problem and as I dont understand all of the technical jargon (I leave that to the experts) I am nervous of trying to supply that kind of information.

Thanks for your time,
Pamela


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 05:51 PM, Pamela Tatt wrote:
I just want to stop receiving them!!  It is time consuming and annoying that I have to deal with them every day.
The only way to do that currently is to NOT allow non-member posts.  They'd be rejected automatically.  (BTW, ALL groups moderate messages from non-members if you have it set to allow them to post.)

Duane


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

Chris,
I just want to stop receiving them!!  It is time consuming and annoying that I have to deal with them every day.  I just dont have the time!!
I have Rejected them with a message to remove our email address from their system but to no avail -- they still keep coming!!


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

Curt I check my Spam folder many times per day and they are not going to it.

They are coming straight into my Inbox


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

Hi Donald,

The only "to field" I can find is as per my sample which was From: Str8 Creative <supportaaeja@...>
To: <knit4charities@groups.io>
and
From: Josias Melo ANPG <support@...>
To: knit4charities@knit4charities.groups.io

So I guess in answer to your question they are being sent directly to our group address.

Pamela


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen
 

At risk of making a fool of myself, I think I have spotted it as a bug in https://groups.io/js/displaytime-0.2.6.js

function DisplayEventTime(t, tzstr, dateFormat, timeFormat) {
    if (t == 0) {
        return '';
    }
    if (typeof tzstr === 'undefined' || tzstr == '') {
        tzstr = '';
        momentDay = moment(t);
    } else {
        momentDay = moment(t).tz(tzstr);
<snip>
should, I suspect, have that last line before the snip as                  momentDay = moment.tz(t,tzstr)
- that's what the matching line looks like in the other, similar functions in that file.

Maybe ..? Or maybe I am way off.

Malcolm.


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Duane
 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:09 AM, JohnF wrote:
It looks like the request is for spam filtering from groups.io
Sometime back, Mark tried using a spam filter for the site, but as with most others, it wasn't very accurate, giving false results for both positive and negative.

Duane


moderated Re: Send and Discard buttons too close together #suggestion

Mark Murphy
 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:21 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Mark -- Just got done composing a fairly lengthy message, and went to click the Send button...but I fat-fingered it and hit Discard instead.

Oops. Not the first time, either.

It would be nice if the Discard button was on the opposite side of the page instead of immediately adjacent to Send.
PLEASE? Same just happened to me.


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 05:09 PM, JohnF wrote:
It looks like the request is for spam filtering from groups.io
It might well be, but I would still like to know exactly what the OP is asking for. In the ansence of that let me provide this example.

(a) If a moderator is looking at a suspect message using the group's web UI then what they are viewing is the actual message from the poster.

(b) If a moderator is looking at the same suspect message from a notification email then what they are looking at is NOT the original message; it has been processed by Groups.io (in a wrapper I daresay) and is actually from Groups.io.

In the case of (a) then a "spam" tab could be used to inform Groups.io that the sender is a suspected spammer. In the case of (b) then an attempt to have the email labelled as spam could easily accuse Groups.io of spamming, not the originator of the message that groups.io has simply wrapped up and passed on. That action could have disastrous consequences.

It is a case of Be careful what you ask for, in case you get it.

Chris


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

 

It looks like the request is for spam filtering from groups.io, so that obviously-spam messages would be auto-rejected, not requiring moderator action. Then if you want your group to allow messages from non-members (but moderated), it would be less work for the moderator to reject all the spam messages coming in.

The downside is that a legitimate message might be incorrectly marked as spam, the same problem regular email systems have. It would have to be thought out if this is OK, or if there's a way to make it easier for a moderator to mass-reject a ton of spam messages.

JohnF


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Mdivine <nextdoorsb@...>
 

I previously posted in managers forum and here. Ours off by an hour in feed. Arizona time. Which does not observe daylight savings time. 

mdivine


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen
 

I wonder whether there is a link between my observed effect and the first bugfix listed in Mark's 5th September changelist: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/26156

Malcolm.


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 04:05 AM, Pamela Tatt wrote:
Would it be possible to have an option to mark such messages as Spam at the point of moderation similar to being able to Reject or Delete a message?

To what end, exactly? I assume that you do not allow these messages to pass moderation (why would you?) so who would you want or expect to see that they had been marked as spam?

Chris


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

 

If  Donald Hellen's post doesn't make sense, check your spam folder. At least in my case, Pamela Tatt's original post on this topic was flagged by Outlook360 and placed in the "Junk" folder due to the examples she included. --cg


moderated Re: #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Donald Hellen
 

Pamela . . .

On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 17:26:12 -0800, "Pamela Tatt"
<knittingpam@gmail.com> wrote:

.I am getting a lot of unwanted messages (see below) every day in both my main group and subgroups.
Are these addressed to the group or the group owner email address?
(You didn't include the "to:" field in your examples.)

The answer to that will help the group provide some help.

Donald


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moderated #suggestion The ability to mark a moderated message as Spam #suggestion

Pamela Tatt
 

Forgive me if this has already been discussed.
I am getting a lot of unwanted messages (see below) every day in both my main group and subgroups.
My groups moderate all messages from non members.

Would it be possible to have an option to mark such messages as Spam at the point of moderation similar to being able to Reject or Delete a message?  

Thanks for your consideration,
Pamela

Message examples .....
From: Josias Melo ANPG <support@...>
To: knit4charities@knit4charities.groups.io
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: 02 Dec 2020 14:39:52 +0100
Subject: Re: Business Proposal

Greetings knit4charities@knit4charities.groups.io,

How are you?

My name is Josias Melo. I am a Procurement Officer with the Angolan National Petroleum and Gas Agency (ANPG). I am writing to extend a business request for you to stand as an agent or middle-man in a crude oil supply contract.

I am assuring you that good profits will be earned from the commission that will be paid to middle-persons. I will provide exclusive details to you upon your acceptance.

Sincerely
Josias Melo
Procurement Officer

.
From: Str8 Creative <supportaaeja@...>
To: <knit4charities@groups.io>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 16:05:23 +0600
Subject: Guaranteed Domain Authority 50/100
hi there

Here is how we can do it
https://www.str8creative.co/product/moz-da-seo-plan/

Regards
Mike
Str8 Creative
support@...

 
 
 

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