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locked Re: Dates on Groups.io

 

I don't have an example of a website. But for work, for two years I had to deal with the dates with year first. I thought I would lose my mind because the dates were critically important and I read them wrong almost every time for two years. It was a true nightmare. I have seen the following: Month day year;  day month year, year month day; year day month; . Help!! what do you do when you have a day 05 and a month 01 and the year is written as 12?  How are you supposed to know if you are looking at day month year or month day year or some other combination? 


I strictly want the U.S, Month, day, year.  For an international site, it needs to be an option.


Regards -

Susan B


locked Re: Edits, deletions, moderation, oh my!

 

Hi Mark 

I am still learning my way around groups.io. I hope this is the right place to chime in.

Regarding deleted items - in a group here, we would not want members editing or deleting their own posts and would not even want it if proposed edits and deletes had to go to moderators for approval first. We would like to be able to set an option which prevents members from doing those things.


Regarding approvals for actions, Since all our members are on moderation, but we do require them to upload certain charts to a particular folder, we would like to allow them to do that without having to approve every upload. Same for photos - we would want them to be able to upload photos. 


We would like all posts to go to a Pending area as they do on Yahoo, and to be able to approve, edit or reject the messages (reject with or without an explanation). Editing does not mean changing their sentences it means removing older posts from the message, or signing their names for them or other housekeeping details. Occasionally we write to the member to ask if they would make a change and repost or let us do it and then approve the message.


We would like all Files to be in alphabetical order, and since we are in the U..S. we want dates to be written Month, Day, Year - and not European style. 


We would like the site to work with Windows and Mac Chrome, Windows and Mac Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 


I would prefer to see the word "Archives" on the left changed to "Message Board." To me, archives implies old stuff ("the dusty archives of the library"), not curent messages. I think a lot of people would think the same thing. When I first saw archives I assumed it was stored files and I kept hunting for something like "Message Board" until I gave up and concluded that groups.io only operated by email. (I wrote to you about that from a help page, asking if it was email only).  Later out of curiosity I clicked archives expecting to see some kind of storage page, and found a message board instead. I did see the word Files later. Another idea - consider renaming the Files to "Library." 


I am unable to find a place to change email preferences. I am getting all emails as the messages post, which is fine with me, but all are coming in plain text and links are unclickable. I am using Windows Mail on Windows 7. Most messages from other sources come to me in HTML with clickable links. These seem to be coming in plain text. I am hoping there's an option for html emails.


I would like to see an option to read messages threaded or flat (as they come in, chronologically). There are good uses for both, and sometimes you want one, and sometimes the other.


Searching: Should be able to search using any word you choose. Hashtags don't matter in that case. If you meant people should only be able to search for tags, I have always found that extremely frustrating. My idea of what the tag should be may be very different from the poster's idea. 


Thank you for considering these comments.

Susan B


locked Check out our Yahoo Crusade Blog post promoting this site!

Nightowl >8#
 

Hey all,

Go here to see our new Blog post about Groups.io:

https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/rescue-ship-on-the-horizon/

Here is the version you can use on Twitter: http://ow.ly/H9bFL

Feel free to spread the word everywhere!

Brenda
Nightowl >8#


locked Re: A couple of questions

Nightowl >8#
 

One other tiny thing if you get a chance. It would be nice to have the previous/next button at the top of the message instead of the bottom, or even in both places.

But I'm not complaining, I'm too busy reading!

Also, something to note, as you are reading using Next, if you suddenly find yourself at the current message numbers, it means there was a post deleted. I found that out, but if you put the #'s in one at a time, you get back on track.

Example, I read #19, hit next. It took me to the newest posts. Hit back, inputted #20, same thing, hit back, inputted #21 same thing, hit back, inputted #22, got back on track.

What Yahoo used to do is say "Message # whatever, doesn't exist." But I knew what was going on and it worked fine. :)

Brenda


locked Re: Attachments to messages

 

Dano,

Is there a setting a member could change in their own preferences that
would send them the message with a link instead of the full attachment
if they have system limitations?
Good suggestion.

I'd always wished Yahoo Groups had made the "Include as link" option be something the member set for their email address, rather than a group-wide setting. Perhaps even with a cutoff value which would allow small attachments, but send a link for larger ones.

-- Shal


locked Re: "My posts" view option #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

Thank you, Shal!

I need to get a notebook out and start jotting all this down! I'm only up to having read message1- 22 so far, but I'm learning a lot!


Brenda



locked Attachments to messages

 

Mark -

I've created a group and I've set it to plain text, but to allow attachments. Many of our members are older folks who may not have fast connections or are not comfortable with getting files in their messages. Is there a setting a member could change in their own preferences that would send them the message with a link instead of the full attachment if they have system limitations?

Dano


locked Re: A couple of questions

 

I'm also a frequent cookie deleter, so anything stored in cookies won't stick for me.  One other thing to think about for cookies, though, is that people use multiple devices these days.  If I want to read groups on my personal computer, work computer, laptop, tablet, mobile phone, multiple browsers, etc., cookies tend to get everything all unsynchronized.  So I like database settings, unless there is some reason why a setting has to be locked to a particular device.

JohnF



locked Re: "My posts" view option #suggestion

 

Brenda,

Tyger, my problem is that I can't seem to always find the response I
get in my e-mail on the site easily.
The message number can be found in the email header. For example look in your message for the Return-Path field:

Return-Path: <bounce+68+597+129+215@groups.io>
The second number is the message number, 597, and you can put that into the new "Msg Num" search box at the top of the Messages View. My guess is that the first number, 68, identifies the group, don't know about the other two.

Feature: perhaps the message footer could contain the message number in plain view.

-- Shal


locked Appearance of home page

 

Mark -

This is a very small detail in the scheme of things, but I thought I'd toss it out so you can allow it to marinate. I've created groups on groups.io to replace my groups on Y! I've modified the graphic for the home page of the big group so people arriving at the group would know they're 'home' so to speak. Is there a way to change the color of the group name that groups.io inserts to transparent? You can see what I'm referring to at https://groups.io/org/groupsio/MILW .


By the way, YYYY-MM-DD is part of the ISO 8601 standard.


Thanks for all your efforts. You have literally given hope to some who might despair.


Dano


locked Re: deletions

 

Our group would not want members deleting or editing their message messages. It would create havoc in our group because all messages are answered by moderators and if we have to go back to look at a paragraph in a member's message that was written a week ago, and suddenly the paragraph is gone because something changed - and the member didn't tell us, it would pretty much render our ability to answer questions, keep up with a chain of events and ask about changes useless. Would there be a setting owners and moderators can use to turn off that ability for members?


Susan B


locked Re: Sticky Posts #suggestion

 

Mark,

I'm not sure how this would work in the message or expanded views
however, since those are message based, not thread based. Should all
the messages in a sticky thread appear at the top of the message view,
for example?
I think it would be appropriate if only the first message in the thread stick to the top of the Message View list. When the user opens it the "View all n Messages in Thread" link serves to let the user find the rest.

-- Shal


locked Re: A couple of questions

Nightowl >8#
 

Wow! Thanks Mark!

Sorry if I seemed needy or pushy. But now that I can read through all the messages using the next etc. buttons, I can learn more about the site without asking you so many questions! At least I hope so, anyway!

BTW I have the post up on the blog, but its a little rough around the edges until Suz fixes the URLS the way she likes. Check it out and tell me if you like it!

https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/rescue-ship-on-the-horizon/

Brenda


locked Re: Mark's TO DO list.

 

Brenda,

Currently, I'm using Trello for that, here:


I just started using it, so it's not yet fully populated. As things evolve, I may go with something else. But I'll always post a pointer to it here.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Can someone point me to Mark's To Do list? I'd like to link it to my Blog post.

Thanks!
Brenda



locked Re: A couple of questions

 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Brenda,

> Still can't figure out how to read messages in numbered order one after
> another without hitting back and reading the next one. Is there a next
> button anywhere?

I don't think there is.

Mark, please take that as a feature request.

I keep forgetting to mention it, but I often use Message View and having a Next and Previous that operate in message number order would be handy. Probably similar for Next and Previous topic in "Thread View".


Your wish is my command. Just pushed to the live site Previous and Next links when viewing individual messages in the archives. I also added the 'Msg Num' box at the top of the page to jump directly to specific message numbers. Let me know if you see any weirdness or anything.

Hmm, I don't seem to be adhering to my 'try not to work so much on the weekends' goal. :-)


Mark


locked Mark's TO DO list.

Nightowl >8#
 

Can someone point me to Mark's To Do list? I'd like to link it to my Blog post.

Thanks!
Brenda


locked Re: A couple of questions

Judy F.
 

Mark, hopefully you will decide to go with the database and not cookies.  My cookies delete every night. 

 

Thanks,

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 6:06 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: A couple of questions

 

Hmm. I liked Shal's idea to keep things on the cookie, because I don't want to have a million different preferences for people to have to check and review. But I could do the same thing with the database; when you change sort direction or message view, it could save that in the database and remember it that way.

 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Still can't figure out how to read messages in numbered order one after another without hitting back and reading the next one. Is there a next button anywhere?

This is on the single message view? There are no next/prev buttons there at the moment. Is that how you'd normally prefer to view group archives, single messages at a time?

 

Thanks,

Mark


locked Re: "My posts" view option #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

Tyger, my problem is that I can't seem to always find the response I get in my e-mail on the site easily. Is there a way to know which posts are NEW and not previously read by someone?

Brenda


locked "My posts" view option #suggestion

RS
 

One thing I noticed on a more active group is that it might be helpful to have a button on the website that filters the messages or threads you are seeing to just your own posts.  Then you could more easily find your own activity and see who may have replied to it.  Perhaps a "track replies" feature for the web interface?  Just a couple thoughts as I am wandering around. 


locked Re: pictures #suggestion

RS
 

Indeed you have, works fine now!