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locked Re: Edited Messages

 

Judy,

I can't remember if this a turn on or off feature that the owner/mod
can do. That might be helpful in our buying selling group.
Member can edit their own, moderator can edit anyone's, just like delete.

But no option to turn editing off. Mark said he is inclined to wait and see if a control is needed:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/message/736

-- Shal


locked Re: Edited Messages

Judy F.
 

Thanks Shal, that is really a great feature. I think your suggestion to check the first and last would be a good idea. I checked the edited and couldn't get the comparison to come up.

I like it. Not sure if our groups would ever use it, but it's a great feature.

I can't remember if this a turn on or off feature that the owner/mod can do. That might be helpful in our buying selling group.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley [mailto:shal@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:38 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Edited Messages

Judy,

> I am having a concern with edited messages. I have gotten two in my > inbox (Outlook) and unless I sit here and compare it word for word, I > don’t know what was edited.
> ...
> What am I missing here?

If you use the "View this message" link in the footer to go to the web, you can click the "Edited" button to see a list of the revisions. Check mark two versions then click the Compare Revisions button to see what changed.

Mark,

Since Compare Revisions is the only action available with the Revisions list, perhaps having the first and last revisions checked by default would be handy.

-- Shal


locked Re: Edited Messages

Duane
 

I did change some numbers and added words/comments. The "more details" referred to the original email when I listed the problem and was in both versions. I may be way off base, but if it were me, I'd ignore/delete the earlier post completely and only use the edited one any time this happens. Only the edited version will appear online. By clicking on the "Edited" icon attached to the upper right of the message online, you will see comments about the edit left by the poster, if any. For small things (typos, misspellings, etc.) I wouldn't even bother editing. This was about a bug in the system, so I wanted to make sure the info I supplied was as accurate and complete as possible to, hopefully, make it a little easier for Mark to track down.

Duane


locked Re: Edited Messages

 

Judy,

I am having a concern with edited messages. I have gotten two in my
inbox (Outlook) and unless I sit here and compare it word for word, I
don’t know what was edited.
...
What am I missing here?
If you use the "View this message" link in the footer to go to the web,
you can click the "Edited" button to see a list of the revisions. Check
mark two versions then click the Compare Revisions button to see what
changed.

Mark,

Since Compare Revisions is the only action available with the Revisions
list, perhaps having the first and last revisions checked by default
would be handy.

-- Shal


locked Re: Edited Messages

Judy F.
 

I am having a concern with edited messages.  I have gotten two in my inbox (Outlook) and unless I sit here and compare it word for word, I don’t know what was edited.  I could do that, but I sure don’t want to waste my time doing it.  If the messages hadn’t come in on the same day, I would have to go back and find the original message and compare it. 

 

With the two messages from Duane, he did say ‘More details’, so I guess I can assume (which I hate to do) that this is all additional information.  Could have been the adding of a number or correcting a number. 

 

What am I missing here? 

 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Duane [mailto:txpigeon@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:55 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Re: Glitch in Members

 

[Edited Message Follows]

More details. I downloaded the csv files for both groups. I did a line by line comparison for sorting on User and Email. Sorting on Email, all matches up except for the fact that NC members aren't downloaded. I can live with that unless it's a super easy change. Sorting on User, on group1 (50 members shown, 49 with NC) , there were 11 duplicates online (2=NC) and 10 that didn't show up at all online that are in the csv (not counting NC). In group2 (46 shown, 46 with NC), there were 6 duplicates online (1=NC) and 6 that don't show online. In both cases, the duplicates are counted as part of the group membership shown on the group home page.

Duane

 


locked Re: Glitch in Members

 

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Both seem to be correct now.  I'm not sure if it's temporary as a result of your manipulations or if it will now always be this way, but I like that User is sorted by email address until I get to those with an actual User name.

That was actually the main problem. I needed to specify a second sort field, otherwise Postgres would send back duplicates for people without names. I should have done this in the first place, as sorting secondarily by email makes sense.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Glitch in Members

Duane
 

Both seem to be correct now. I'm not sure if it's temporary as a result of your manipulations or if it will now always be this way, but I like that User is sorted by email address until I get to those with an actual User name.

Gotta watch those little bugs. They just love to multiply.

Many Thanks,
Duane


locked Re: Glitch in Members

 

Duane,

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

More details. I downloaded the csv files for both groups. I did a line by line comparison for sorting on User and Email. Sorting on Email, all matches up except for the fact that NC members aren't downloaded. I can live with that unless it's a super easy change. Sorting on User, on group1 (50 members shown, 49 with NC) , there were 11 duplicates online (2=NC) and 10 that didn't show up at all online that are in the csv (not counting NC). In group2 (46 shown, 46 with NC), there were 6 duplicates online (1=NC) and 6 that don't show online. In both cases, the duplicates are counted as part of the group membership shown on the group home page.

This was a tricky one, involving two separate bugs. But I think I've got it sorted out now. Can you check your member list and see if it's been fixed?

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: "Your groups"

 

You should only get the numbers for groups in which you're a moderator/owner and for which you have the correct privileges to act on whoever/whatever needs approval.

Mark

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Donna <pnwfemale@...> wrote:
Shal and Duane, thank you for your input.  I no longer see the '1' so, what Shal did fixed it.  I'm a moderator on the test group and now wonder if there are degrees of moderator abilities.  I know that the group at one time had sent an alert to my email inbox saying there was a pending member.  But, it didn't do it this time.  If the number shows as I described in my previous message..  I'm wondering why, when I clicked on Members, I did not see the '1' on any of the tabs? 



locked Re: Group archive visibility (was Find Group listing) #suggestion

Frances
 

Hi Chris,

If the list owners want to entice you to join, they can write a longer (better?) description if the group appears in the directory. 
You can, of course, see how active it is, how many members, last post, etc. 

Frances

On Jan 20 15, at 6:27 PM, Chris Leong <walkraft@...> wrote:

Yeah, everyone seems to be defaulting to private groups which is annoying because I can't see the content in a group before I decide whether I want to join or not.


locked Encrypted email connections

 

All,

I just enabled incoming encrypted email connections. This should be completely transparent and there should be no issues. But I've learned never to say never. So, if you or one of your members can't seem to send a message to your groups, please ping my @corp.groups.io email address with the details.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Group archive visibility (was Find Group listing) #suggestion

 

Yeah, everyone seems to be defaulting to private groups which is annoying because I can't see the content in a group before I decide whether I want to join or not.


locked Re: Emailed messages Footer

 

On 1/20/2015 12:19 PM, Jim Fisher wrote:
my Pegasus Mail client asks me if I want to
include the whole message
Neat! Glad others are doing it! Saves bandwidth...

dg


locked Re: "Your groups"

 

Shal and Duane, thank you for your input.  I no longer see the '1' so, what Shal did fixed it.  I'm a moderator on the test group and now wonder if there are degrees of moderator abilities.  I know that the group at one time had sent an alert to my email inbox saying there was a pending member.  But, it didn't do it this time.  If the number shows as I described in my previous message.  I'm wondering why, when I clicked on Members, I did not see the '1' on any of the tabs? 


locked Re: "Your groups"

Duane
 

I figured out that the number is the total number of people and/or messages awaiting approval. At that point I usually go to what is now named Your Subscriptions (https://groups.io/groups) and it shows which of those are pending on each group. You could also go to the group and it will show the individual numbers next to Pending or Members. I'm the owner of the groups where I've seen this. I don't know if mods would see it or not. Probably depends on their permissions.

Duane


locked Re: "Your groups"

 

Donna,

About that Your Groups in the black header, I am seeing a white "1"
inside of a grey circle. When I click on it to view the drop down
menu, I see that the "1" is next to Shal's test group. When I click
on that group, I see the "1" next to Members. I click on Members and
don't see it next to any of the members' names. ...

If the "1" means something else, can you explain, please?
It meant that there was one pending member. Since November. Oops, not sure why I was ignoring that.

Is there a way to remove it?
It should go away now that I've approved the member.

-- Shal


locked Re: "Your groups"

 

About that Your Groups in the black header, I am seeing a white  "1" inside of a grey circle.  When I click on it to view the drop down menu, I see that the "1" is next to Shal's test group.  When I click on that group, I see the "1" next to Members.  I click on Members and don't see it next to any of the members' names.  I am guessing that it means there is a new member; but the newest member joined the group 17 days ago. 

If the "1" means something else, can you explain, please?  If it means what I think it means, how long will it stay there?  Is there a way to remove it?


Donna


locked Re: Emailed messages Footer

 

Perhaps a bit off topic, but my Pegasus Mail client asks me if I want to
include the whole message or only the highlighted part in my reply, as I have
done here.

Jim Fisher

On 19 Jan 2015 at 14:23, CatWoman wrote:

but normally I use TBird's
wonderful (and AFAIK unique) option to highlight a piece of the message
before hitting reply and only having that show up quoted (as above).
--
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http://jimellame.tumblr.com - My thoughts on freedom
http://jimella.wordpress.com - political snippets, especially economic policy
http://jimella.livejournal.com - misc. snippets, some political, some not
Forget Google! I search with https://duckduckgo.com which doesn't spy on you


locked Re: Glitch in Members

Duane
 
Edited

More details. I downloaded the csv files for both groups. I did a line by line comparison for sorting on User and Email. Sorting on Email, all matches up except for the fact that NC members aren't downloaded. I can live with that unless it's a super easy change. Sorting on User, on group1 (50 members shown, 49 with NC) , there were 11 duplicates online (2=NC) and 10 that didn't show up at all online that are in the csv (not counting NC). In group2 (46 shown, 46 with NC), there were 6 duplicates online (1=NC) and 6 that don't show online. In both cases, the duplicates are counted as part of the group membership shown on the group home page.

Duane



locked Re: How does one follow a topic or hashtag?

Duane
 

I followed up on this. Setting it to All Mail seems to enable the Mute button only. Setting it to First Message Only seems to enable the Follow button only. Back to No Email and no extra buttons.

Duane