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locked Re: Interesting - along with Brenda & Shal's cross-group posting, another oddity

Mark Fletcher
 

That was sent in a 5 minute period this morning where there was a bug that would not acknowledge us receiving a message, so your mail server tried to send it again, leading to the duplicate error message. It was while I was tracking down the cross-posting bug.

Some days you're the feature. Some days you're the bug. frowning

Mark


locked Re: Suggestion for files settings

Judy F.
 

Thanks Trish, but I don’t think we are talking about the same thing.  If I am reading that page correctly, those settings are group settings (who can do what).  That’s not what I am talking about. 

 

When we have a member join the group, they are pended.  Also at that time, a message is automatically sent to them under the Pended category requesting information.  Another options is a letter goes out to welcome them when they are approved, another if they are denied, etc.  These various messages do not go out to everyone nor do they go out weekly/monthly, etc.  Just the one time to that particular individual. 

 

I don’t see anything like that when I click on the Setting option. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: pnrfan@... [mailto:pnrfan@...]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 5:34 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Suggestion for files settings

 


 

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 9:53 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Thanks Trish.  I don’t have  a group set up so I can’t check it out.  If it does what I mentioned below, then I’m happy. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: pnrfan@... [mailto:pnrfan@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:16 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Suggestion for files settings

 

Judy,

 

What you need is in Settings > Member Notices.

 

Trish

 

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 9:11 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Duane, if it doesn't also provide a way to send an automatic message to a specific email address, when they are pended, actually join, leave group, denied, etc. that doesn't help those of us that use that feature in Yahoo Groups quite extensively.  Example:  When someone joins the selling group, they are pended and an email is automatically, sent asking for required information and ask that it be returned within a certain amount of time.  If we get it within that time and all of the information is there, I then approve them.  If I don't get it in that amount of time, I deny the request to join.

I really don't see how the calendar can do this type thing, since it isn't a recurring event and is directed to a specific email address for a specific reason.  The others are for information purposes only.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

 


locked Interesting - along with Brenda & Shal's cross-group posting, another oddity

 

Apparently the beta group got two copies of my blank-page response (the
second one).

It did what it should, and rejected it - but I didn't send it twice.

Mark, I'll hang on to it if you need any of it - but I suspect your
logs will show more since my host's mail system (Pair.com) was the
one who sent back the reject.

dg


locked Re: Markdown

 

I did a test on my group to see if they survive conversion to plain text. They made it to plain text okay, but I noticed in my test that the hard returns got lost. Let's see if the hard return after each of these sentences survives. My 2¢ worth. Dano


locked Re: Markdown

Duane
 

It looks like those characters will work fine in Markdown using the keyboard/alt.  I haven't tested them in an html post yet.

0169 = ©

0176 = °

0181 = µ


Duane



locked Re: Markdown

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:11 PM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:
Mark -
Something that used to work in Groups that some of our members used were the characters created by holding down ALT and typing the four digit number on the numeric keypad. I'm afraid I don't know what it's called. Back in the days of phototypesetting these were called Pi characters as I recall. Is this in any way related to markdown? An example is ALT+0169 giving a copyright symbol. Being able to use them again would be helpful, but we managed without them.

In a way, yes. Markdown lets you embed HTML characters natively. The copyright symbol is &copy; . See here for more examples:


Of course, there's also emoji, which we don't yet support, but one day will.


Mark


locked Re: Site sign in

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Does a sign in on Groups.io ever expire?  I signed in when I first joined (12 days ago) and haven't had to since.  On the other service I use, I stay signed in for 2 weeks unless I specifically sign out.  (Unless I need to use owner/moderator privileges, then it asks for credentials every 4 hours.  Way too often in my opinion.)

Cookies are currently set to expire every 30 days.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Suggestion for files settings

Laurence Taylor
 

On 25/01/2015 01:21, D R Stinson wrote:
Duane - This was discussed earlier as there were others with the same
concern. The discussion seemed to lead to the recommendation that
there be a setting for individual members that could be turned on so
that attachments over a certain size would be replaced with a link on
the message that would take the reader to the attachment. - Dano
This would have to be at the option of the recipient, as people might
not be in a position to do that.

--
rgds
LAurence
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locked Re: Beta Digest

Laurence Taylor
 

On 24/01/2015 12:20, ro-esp wrote:

Mark, will replying in the reply box allow that reply to show at the top
of the message or do you at least have an option?
As much as I hate that, I don't think it can be banned without pissing
off a load of people who prefer it that way
And we shouldn't do that because? :-)

Yes, and that's why I request an (optional!!) autotrim-feature like
some googlegroups have. It simply deletes everything under the last
unindented line, before the message is sent. Ideally (....) the cursor
would be positioned at the start of the first written line UNDER the "
at date and time, userxy@domain.pq sent:"
This is probably more of a luxury, but I've seen it done: reject any
message that has less original content than quoted. Will soon put a stop
to those people who quote the last 46 messages just to say "me too".


--
rgds
LAurence
<><


locked Re: Setting member posting options

Cacky B
 

Maybe "Set this member to always allowed to post, override group setting." Cuts down a bit on the words.
Cacky

On 1/26/2015 4:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've added a TODO to revisit this wording.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:26 PM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:
I just changed a moderator's posting settings to post any time. In 'Members' I selected the member. I then selected 'Actions' -> 'Override - Not Moderated'. The 'Verify Action' reads: "Set to allow posting this one member?"

I wonder if it might not be better if it read, "Set this member to always be allowed to post in spite of group posting setting?" It's a little wordy, but it makes it clear this person is getting a special privilege.

Dano










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locked Re: The case for social logins

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Chris Leong <walkraft@...> wrote:
I meant social logins as an additional feature - social logins only would be frustrating for many people.


Agreed on all counts. I've had other requests to add social logins as well. I'll add it to the list; it will of course be optional.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Suggestion for files settings

 

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

Hmm... I hadn't looked at that way, but you're right. The Description available in an event isn't as limited as the one in Yahoo Groups was. So for many purposes where text files are used it might do just as nicely.

For non-text files you can place a link in the text, and it doesn't seem too difficult to pick up the link from the file's name in the Files section. But there's no attachment ability, nor a convenient way to browse for the file you want.

It's always been my intention to have the ability to include attachments in event reminders. I checked and it wasn't on the Trello board, so I've added a card.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Setting member posting options

 

I've added a TODO to revisit this wording.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:26 PM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:
I just changed a moderator's posting settings to post any time. In 'Members' I selected the member. I then selected 'Actions' -> 'Override - Not Moderated'. The 'Verify Action' reads: "Set to allow posting this one member?"

I wonder if it might not be better if it read, "Set this member to always be allowed to post in spite of group posting setting?" It's a little wordy, but it makes it clear this person is getting a special privilege.

Dano







locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

 

I've changed Archives to Messages. Please let me know if you see any issues.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Markdown

 

Mark -
Something that used to work in Groups that some of our members used were the characters created by holding down ALT and typing the four digit number on the numeric keypad. I'm afraid I don't know what it's called. Back in the days of phototypesetting these were called Pi characters as I recall. Is this in any way related to markdown? An example is ALT+0169 giving a copyright symbol. Being able to use them again would be helpful, but we managed without them.
Dano


locked Re: The case for social logins

 

I meant social logins as an additional feature - social logins only would be frustrating for many people.

On 27 January 2015 at 07:23, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

I second that. I have no desire to have to be on a social group such as those, to use this one.

Brenda



locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

 

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

Speaking of which maybe, and especially when a user clicks through to a message from "Your Inbox", it may make sense to put a more explicit warning on the Delete function. Perhaps "Are you sure you wish to delete this message from the Message Archives of GROUPNAME? This cannot be undone."

I've changed the Delete message to say this, along with bolding the 'This cannot be undone.' part. The changes will go out shortly.

Mark 


locked Re: The Biggest Deal Breaker -- Database #suggestion

Duane
 

David,

For your use, I would think a Wordpress/blog/Wiki type site would work best. It could contain a link to your group, but would always be available to the public. You could also have a link on your group home page pointing to the other site, if needed/wanted.

Duane


locked Re: The Biggest Deal Breaker -- Database #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

That would also force those who do not want to be involved with Google, to have to be involved with Google.


I still stand on my opinion that there is a database needed here. Chris says we don't have large groups here yet? They would come if there was a database. I can count more than 5 large groups ruined by NEO already, that I know would jump at it.

Brenda


locked Re: The Biggest Deal Breaker -- Database #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

Yes. And I'm not sure why Chris thinks that the database feature was removed from Yahoo Groups. It's still there, just badly broken, formatting skewed, and more. But it was not removed with NEO, just broken. That caused a lot of people to lose important data.

Brenda