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locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

Frances
 

Just a few points:

1) What characteristics do you think make a successful group?

Shared philosophy, concern or goal. 

Including name and location personalizes the exchange and creates community.

Don't overwhelm new members with too much stuff. A week ago I joined one on YahooGroups to remind myself about digests, etc. I received email after email from the group about resources, ways to do stuff, etc. I unsubscribed. However having that info as a wiki or files and point out it's available - that's okay.


2) What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?

Doing your job - promptly.

Judgement and discretion.

Frances in Toronto, Canada but leaving tomorrow for a Canary Island cruise!


locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

 

It really depends upon the type of group; but, I am a member of an MS group still on Yahoo and it seems to be quite successful.  But, no matter how much the owner or moderator writes and poses questions or anything he or she might do, a successful group really depends upon the members.  I started a small group on Groups.io.  There have been a few people who have joined and I have asked questions and tried to get conversations going; but, so far, my group seems to be one made up of lurkers. 

I do not think group owners/moderators should be invisible; but, they should respect the other members and not try to instill their believes upon members.  If the members in my group would be willing to post messages, ask questions, etc. the group would be our group and not just mine.  There again, it comes to the members.  Why join a group, if you do not want to participate even a little bit?  At the same time, as owner, I get tired of being primarily the only one to send messages or ask questions. 

It wouldn't really matter if the group has 5 members or 50 members, if I'm the only one participating, how can I make it a successful group?

Donna


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Linda
 

Hi Mark,
With two days of submissions to go, my early favorite is #17. It's elegant, distinctive and adaptable to various formats. If you don't like black, #15 is the same in blue.

The logos by Jule Designs used a zero instead of the final O, while #26 missed plural. Qurrota a'yun also didn't see that the i looked like a j in #24 and #25. Same with #18.

Linda


locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

1) What characteristics do you think make a successful group?

A good group should have Q & A  to help members ease into the group
Many times auto send guidelines  files  are  boring to members because they
find it is too long to read in turn they delete the instructions..
Then there at times they will forget the guidelines. 
Members should have a place where they can turn to read  the guidelines 24/7
instead of receiving the group policies and guidelines once a month to avoid also
 too much incoming mail.

A warm welcome mat  in the group and on the website to help draw members into the group
 A  visual evocative group front page /  logo   .. 
Let it speak not in words  instead evocatively .

The group should  be user friendly and organized.

2) What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?
Patient and fair
Leads by example
Importance  in  leading not commanding  
Shows respect for their  fellow community members in their actions and words
Team work is important to help the group run smoothly.
as well as a social sensitivity to different cultures and personalities.

Vickie

 










From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:02 PM
Subject: [beta] Successful groups and moderators

Hi All,

I'd like to try something a little different and I hope you'll indulge
me. I have a couple of questions for you.

1) What characteristics do you think make a successful group?

2) What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?

I have my ideas, but I want to hear from you. Why? Because I want
Groups..io to make it easy for you to be a kickass moderator/owner of a
great group or groups. Perhaps answers to these questions will point
to features that are missing to help achieve that.


Thanks,
Mark







locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Frances
 

Hi

#33 reminds me of another logo. Can’t remember what. Thought it might be General Electric but that’s not it. Interesting.

It is instructive to do a Google image search for G logo.
Might help eliminate ones that aren’t distinctive enough.

Frances


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Trish McDonald
 

Update on my preferences

10 clean, simple
13 if you drop the tail off the G. Clean, simple, suggests email
20 another that's clean, simple & suggests email
22 for the color only...if you drop that onto a black background, it'll really pop.
27 catches my eye and seems to show up fairly well on both white and black backgrounds

I think of groups.io as a clean and simple to use service which is part of the reason I'm trending toward clean & simple logo concepts.

Thanks,
Trish
Happy Dog Rescue @ gmail.com


On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@...> wrote:
Here's my thoughts:

The ones that emphasise the G can suggest Google, so not such a good
idea (which is a pity, but there we are) - but see also below.

The ones that use a graphic for the ".io" part don't look nice, they
make the reader think that part is being shouted. The addition of the
quote bubble to this part an make it look like JO rather than IO (No. 18
is an example of this).

Specific comments:

Nos. 3 and 5: Not suggestive of groups (and No. 3 is hard to see).
Nos. 7 and 8: Too fussy and not intuitive. Perhaps without the graphic
G-spiral.

No. 9: Looks like people all lying under a table.

No. 10: What does it all mean? Suggests things should happen if you
press the various bits.

No.11: Nice. Meaningless, but nice.

No. 13: The G looks like a Q.

No. 14: Is this the Post Office?

No. 15: Not as nice as No. 17.

No. 16: Q-groups? What are Q-groups?

No. 17: I like it. Simple design, can sugest the line of communication,
recognisable. The straight lines are better than the curved lines of No. 15..

No. 18: Groups.jo?

No. 20: I like this one too. Suggests a smiley face.

No. 23: EEE-groups! (What a pity that name isn't available!)

No. 32: Looks like a phone company.

If I have to vote, I will say first choice No. 17, second choice no. 20.



--
rgds
LAurence
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locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Laurence Taylor
 

Here's my thoughts:

The ones that emphasise the G can suggest Google, so not such a good
idea (which is a pity, but there we are) - but see also below.

The ones that use a graphic for the ".io" part don't look nice, they
make the reader think that part is being shouted. The addition of the
quote bubble to this part an make it look like JO rather than IO (No. 18
is an example of this).

Specific comments:

Nos. 3 and 5: Not suggestive of groups (and No. 3 is hard to see).
Nos. 7 and 8: Too fussy and not intuitive. Perhaps without the graphic
G-spiral.

No. 9: Looks like people all lying under a table.

No. 10: What does it all mean? Suggests things should happen if you
press the various bits.

No.11: Nice. Meaningless, but nice.

No. 13: The G looks like a Q.

No. 14: Is this the Post Office?

No. 15: Not as nice as No. 17.

No. 16: Q-groups? What are Q-groups?

No. 17: I like it. Simple design, can sugest the line of communication,
recognisable. The straight lines are better than the curved lines of No. 15.

No. 18: Groups.jo?

No. 20: I like this one too. Suggests a smiley face.

No. 23: EEE-groups! (What a pity that name isn't available!)

No. 32: Looks like a phone company.

If I have to vote, I will say first choice No. 17, second choice no. 20.



--
rgds
LAurence
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locked Re: Site Updates #changelog

 

Yeah, that just gave me a chuckle...

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 05:18 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

>
> Also, tried to add Yahoo as one of the social logins, but Yahoo's developer site is broken. :frowning:
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

RS
 

I like 6 and 26 myself.


locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

 

1) What characteristics do you think make a successful group?
That's tough because groups can be so very different and all may be good for those that use them. I think the top criteria is activity. Do people post freely and often? IS there some good discussion? Do members feel free to post and know who they're reading? (I should explain, we had problems with anonymous trolls for a while and put a stop to it by requiring full names on posts or clearly in email addresses.) Is there respect between members and no bullying?

Another thing that's important is whether the members can easily find different subjects in the Messages or find file or images easily. Much of this last is dependent on the owner's or moderators' organizational abilities and the ability to move files, photos and attachments around as needed.

2) What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?
The best owners and moderators are the ones that are least noticed. They can encourage and participate in discussions, but very seldom does the group see the "Moderator" hat or (heaven forbid!) the "Owner" hat. Moderators can find and append user's names and delete things like members' phone numbers from moderated messages. Any discussion about inappropriate behavior happens off-list and it would be nice if the other moderators and owner could just be BCCd to avoid embarrassing the member, even privately.

Dano


locked Re: Site Updates #changelog

Duane
 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 05:18 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


Also, tried to add Yahoo as one of the social logins, but Yahoo's developer site is broken. :frowning:

Thanks,
Mark
Gee, why does that not surprise me? VBG

Duane


locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

kr402
 

sorry sent my ? before I saw your answer.
Thanks, Mark.





locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

kr402
 

It may depend on the individual group, as different groups might have different needs.
I will think on it.
You did not ask for charestics of an owner.
Does that follow under moderator?





locked Site Updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site the last couple days:

  • When a reply to a message comes in from a thread whose subject has been edited, we send out the message with the new subject.
  • Improved the error message returned when trying to post to a group you're not subscribed to. We now include your email address in the message.
  • Fix for decoding base64 encoded message subjects that contain erroneous spaces in the encoded data.
  • Delete CC lines from message headers.
  • Redid how we handle social logins, adding individual permissions for each login.
  • Removed Facebook login until we get approval.
  • More intelligent about displaying the website URL in the group home page to fix link problems.
  • Fixed the case when we linkify plain text in the archives for (URL).

Also, tried to add Yahoo as one of the social logins, but Yahoo's developer site is broken. frowning

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

 

Steph,

Thanks for your response. Just one clarification for everyone:

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Steph <hsrsp@inbox.com> wrote:

2nd question you asked:
What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?
I like for my moderators to just be who they are! But in the process, I
want them to follow my group guidelines as well. Steph
When I said moderator, I mean both moderators and owners (i.e. person
or persons that runs a group).


Thanks!
Mark


locked Re: Successful groups and moderators

Steph <hsrsp@...>
 

Hello Mark,
Below are my responses.

First question you asked:
What characteristics do you think make a successful group?
I think it's members and their activity. I have a group out here that is for Christian women and we are like a close-knit family

2nd question you asked:
What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?
I like for my moderators to just be who they are! But in the process, I want them to follow my group guidelines as well. Steph

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 7:02 PM
To: <beta@groups.io>
Subject: [beta] Successful groups and moderators

Hi All,

I'd like to try something a little different and I hope you'll indulge
me. I have a couple of questions for you.

1) What characteristics do you think make a successful group?

2) What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?

I have my ideas, but I want to hear from you. Why? Because I want
Groups.io to make it easy for you to be a kickass moderator/owner of a
great group or groups. Perhaps answers to these questions will point
to features that are missing to help achieve that.


Thanks,
Mark



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locked Successful groups and moderators

 

Hi All,

I'd like to try something a little different and I hope you'll indulge
me. I have a couple of questions for you.

1) What characteristics do you think make a successful group?

2) What characteristics do you think make a good moderator?

I have my ideas, but I want to hear from you. Why? Because I want
Groups.io to make it easy for you to be a kickass moderator/owner of a
great group or groups. Perhaps answers to these questions will point
to features that are missing to help achieve that.


Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

 

Donna,

I would vote for #16. At first, it looks like a very simple design.
Upon closer examination, one can see that it is a group of 4 people.
Soylent logo is people!!!
(Sorry, couldn't resist).

I detest the little tails on many of these, representing speech balloons. That to me is clear iconography for chat or text message, not email or web groups. (Sorry Mark, I see that was the sample you gave them.)

But lose the tail and 16 makes for a nicely unique icon.

I like 10 too, for building an envelope out of network nodes. The only one that hints at web and email both. It would also make a unique Font Awesome character.

I also like how 15 and 17 build a G out of envelopes. Also a nicely unique icon, if a bit mechanical in appearance.

I suspect the best may be yet to come, given that there's almost three days left. Good design requires time to think, reflect, adjust, and think again.

-- Shal


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

cshenk1@...
 

#13 by bentrisku

 

It's simple, CLEAN, leads people here and more importantly doesn't have the trailing smaller and smaller emails drifting off which in my mind means mail loss.

 

Put an arrow head on the G leading to the 'mail' icon (speaks to delivery to you personally).  Next, visual issue for the color blind.  These are all on a white background but you have a color block issue. 

The blue rules out a green background unless very pale.  The orange rules out yellow, red, and brown.  I think Pale green will be your best bet with a HIGH CONTRAST difference.

You can also look a crisp white if you like but it's going to meld into the background depending on the skills of others who pull it in so is you do that, border it.  Maybe the dark blue on the .io side and the orange on the groups side, or just pick one.

 

Smile, I've spent too much time with visual disabilities and adaption obviously (grin).

 

  Carol 

 


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

 

I would vote for #16.  At first, it looks like a very simple design.  Upon closer examination, one can see that it is a group of 4 people.  I'm not sure how to interpret the tail on the one; but, groups are made up of people.  I just like it a lot. 

Donna