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locked Re: Receiving every post

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
I think it would be a good idea, so that the user can change, as it is annoying me, to say the least. Before sending, I proofread it, anyway, so I just don't find it useful to see it again.

Sent from the BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io
To: beta@groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:38:00 -0700
Subject: [beta] Re: Receiving every post

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 03:51 pm, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:


Forgive me For another post, but I seem to receive a copy of every post, that
I send here. How do I disable that?


You're on gmail, which has a feature such that any messages you send to a group are not shown to you. Other email systems do not have this feature. Right now, beta@ is set to break this feature, such that every message you send shows up in your Gmail inbox. We had a discussion on beta@ a month or two ago about this, and everyone agreed that this was a good feature to enable on all groups (the 'breaking' of Gmail's habit of not showing you messages you send to the group). I have not done that yet (it's a big change, and I'm a little chicken about it, but I do agree with it being a good thing to do). I could make it a per-user setting (defaulted to on), although my natural inclination is for less preferences rather than more.

Mark


locked Re: Receiving every post

 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 03:51 pm, rajmund brajmund2000@... wrote:

Forgive me For another post, but I seem to receive a copy of every post, that I send here. How do I disable that?

You're on gmail, which has a feature such that any messages you send to a group are not shown to you. Other email systems do not have this feature. Right now, beta@ is set to break this feature, such that every message you send shows up in your Gmail inbox. We had a discussion on beta@ a month or two ago about this, and everyone agreed that this was a good feature to enable on all groups (the 'breaking' of Gmail's habit of not showing you messages you send to the group). I have not done that yet (it's a big change, and I'm a little chicken about it, but I do agree with it being a good thing to do). I could make it a per-user setting (defaulted to on), although my natural inclination is for less preferences rather than more.

Mark


locked Calendar

Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

I am quite impressed with the calendar now. I was able to add an event using a screen reader, NVDA in this case. Thank you for any fixes you have made, very much appreciated! Keep up the good work!


locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

I was able to create an event fine, but when looking at the calendar from what I am seeing a table starting at 23 and my event is showing at the end of the month after march 31.

My event was for march 26 6 pm to 7 pm

Ok, now that I use the correct keys to read the table I can see I have an event on march 26.

The days of the week must be presented in a table because there is an event happening.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:28 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Hi All,

With a little help from Duane, I've been able to figure out how to set
labels on the buttons for the calendar. I'm using 'aria-label', which
I think is the proper attribute. Please let me know if this makes the
calendar accessible.

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
If you're after a calendar, try VCalendar
http://ultraapps.com/app_overview.php?app_id=19 or
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualcalendar/

It's very configurable (documentation is sadly lacking); I haven't
tested it with a screen reader but I don't see why it shouldn't be
compatible as it's based on text links rather than buttons.

--
rgds
LAurence
<><




locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

Yes, the buttons read next and previous. I will do more with the calendar later tonight.

Thank you

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:28 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Hi All,

With a little help from Duane, I've been able to figure out how to set labels on the buttons for the calendar. I'm using 'aria-label', which I think is the proper attribute. Please let me know if this makes the calendar accessible.

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
If you're after a calendar, try VCalendar
http://ultraapps.com/app_overview.php?app_id=19 or
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualcalendar/

It's very configurable (documentation is sadly lacking); I haven't
tested it with a screen reader but I don't see why it shouldn't be
compatible as it's based on text links rather than buttons.

--
rgds
LAurence
<><




locked Re: Receiving every post

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Forgive me For another post, but I seem to receive a copy of every post, that I send here. How do I disable that?

----- Original Message -----
From: rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint



Hello Mark,
Hmm, the button didn't show up. If I enabled javascript, then, the whole browser locks up. Any ideas? I think more and more group owners will come here, and I think it is important to stay in the competition. Things that use mailman, and or freelists, they are 100% accessible, With what I have. Now, this is not bashing, but rather, helping out.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint



Hi,

Welcome to beta.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:31 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

A quick question. Will The be anything done with the log in buttons, and things alike? I'm using a blindness note taker, (PDA personal digital assistance) with Internet Explorer 6, and the button will just not click. I got a work around, though. Forgot my password, and it will let me in that way. However, once I log out, I'd have to repeat this, and everything.
Hmm. I just changed the button type to submit for the 'Log In' button
on the log in screen. Please let me know if this helps.

Unfortunately, the frameworks I'm using for the website really aren't
compatible with IE6, so you may find more of these issues. If what I
changed fixes the log in button, I'll propagate that change through
the rest of the site, so at least that will work for you.

Thanks,
Mark



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Sent from the Braille Sense


locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello Mark,
Hmm, the button didn't show up. If I enabled javascript, then, the whole browser locks up. Any ideas? I think more and more group owners will come here, and I think it is important to stay in the competition. Things that use mailman, and or freelists, they are 100% accessible, With what I have. Now, this is not bashing, but rather, helping out.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint



Hi,

Welcome to beta.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:31 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

A quick question. Will The be anything done with the log in buttons, and things alike? I'm using a blindness note taker, (PDA personal digital assistance) with Internet Explorer 6, and the button will just not click. I got a work around, though. Forgot my password, and it will let me in that way. However, once I log out, I'd have to repeat this, and everything.
Hmm. I just changed the button type to submit for the 'Log In' button
on the log in screen. Please let me know if this helps.

Unfortunately, the frameworks I'm using for the website really aren't
compatible with IE6, so you may find more of these issues. If what I
changed fixes the log in button, I'll propagate that change through
the rest of the site, so at least that will work for you.

Thanks,
Mark



Sent from the Braille Sense


locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

 

Hi,

Welcome to beta.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:31 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

A quick question. Will The be anything done with the log in buttons, and things alike? I'm using a blindness note taker, (PDA personal digital assistance) with Internet Explorer 6, and the button will just not click. I got a work around, though. Forgot my password, and it will let me in that way. However, once I log out, I'd have to repeat this, and everything.
Hmm. I just changed the button type to submit for the 'Log In' button
on the log in screen. Please let me know if this helps.

Unfortunately, the frameworks I'm using for the website really aren't
compatible with IE6, so you may find more of these issues. If what I
changed fixes the log in button, I'll propagate that change through
the rest of the site, so at least that will work for you.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello there,
A quick question. Will The be anything done with the log in buttons, and things alike? I'm using a blindness note taker, (PDA personal digital assistance) with Internet Explorer 6, and the button will just not click. I got a work around, though. Forgot my password, and it will let me in that way. However, once I log out, I'd have to repeat this, and everything.
PS. This is, in fact, my first ever post here.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint



Hi All,

With a little help from Duane, I've been able to figure out how to set
labels on the buttons for the calendar. I'm using 'aria-label', which
I think is the proper attribute. Please let me know if this makes the
calendar accessible.

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
If you're after a calendar, try VCalendar
http://ultraapps.com/app_overview.php“app_id=19 or
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualcalendar/

It's very configurable (documentation is sadly lacking); I haven't
tested it with a screen reader but I don't see why it shouldn't be
compatible as it's based on text links rather than buttons.

--
rgds
LAurence
<><





Sent from the Braille Sense


locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

 

Hi All,

With a little help from Duane, I've been able to figure out how to set
labels on the buttons for the calendar. I'm using 'aria-label', which
I think is the proper attribute. Please let me know if this makes the
calendar accessible.

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
If you're after a calendar, try VCalendar
http://ultraapps.com/app_overview.php?app_id=19 or
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualcalendar/

It's very configurable (documentation is sadly lacking); I haven't
tested it with a screen reader but I don't see why it shouldn't be
compatible as it's based on text links rather than buttons.

--
rgds
LAurence
<><




locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Laurence Taylor
 

If you're after a calendar, try VCalendar
http://ultraapps.com/app_overview.php?app_id=19 or
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualcalendar/

It's very configurable (documentation is sadly lacking); I haven't
tested it with a screen reader but I don't see why it shouldn't be
compatible as it's based on text links rather than buttons.

--
rgds
LAurence
<><


locked Re: New feature: Login via Facebook or Google

Nightowl >8#
 

I'm way behind in here, sorry. But I agree with Dano. More complex options should be in a place where less savvy computer users won't see them and get confused.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#


locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

David P. Dillard
 

Unlabeld icons, search boxes, photographs and the like are a big no no in ADA compliance.



Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@temple.edu

On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

Hi Beta,
Please do not leave any buttons or other controls unlabelled. This will make no sense at all to our screen readers as all they will hear is "button" or whatever control is unlabelled at the time. Even if the label is an icon or other image, this isn't good enough for a screen reader.
Thank you for listening, no pung intended.




locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Not tried this but what about Google Calendar? This is the only publicably available calendar I know.

On 24/03/2015 16:26, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi Christopher,

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@icloud.com> wrote:

Please do not leave any buttons or other controls unlabelled. This will make
no sense at all to our screen readers as all they will hear is "button" or
whatever control is unlabelled at the time. Even if the label is an icon or
other image, this isn't good enough for a screen reader.
Yes, we definitely try to do this. With the calendar, however, we're
using 3rd party code to display it, from http://fullcalendar.io, and
it's apparently not accessible. I'm looking for other solutions.

Thanks,
Mark



locked Re: Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

 

Hi Christopher,

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
<challsworth2@icloud.com> wrote:

Please do not leave any buttons or other controls unlabelled. This will make
no sense at all to our screen readers as all they will hear is "button" or
whatever control is unlabelled at the time. Even if the label is an icon or
other image, this isn't good enough for a screen reader.
Yes, we definitely try to do this. With the calendar, however, we're
using 3rd party code to display it, from http://fullcalendar.io, and
it's apparently not accessible. I'm looking for other solutions.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: calendar

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:
I bet those are the "previous" and "next" buttons. They just show as a left arrow and a right arrow and work on month, week, and day. Today only becomes active if you're not on the current month/week/day.
Yeah, unfortunately, the code I use for displaying the calendar,
http://fullcalendar.io is not accessible.

Mark


locked Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

How embarrassing for me! If I turn off Adblock, I can see them. Hope I didn't cause too much unnecessary work.
No worries. I should have thought of that as well. Adblock looks for
specific Font Awesome icons, as noted on the Font Awesome site.

Mark


locked Some friendly advice from a screen reader user's standpoint

Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Hi Beta,
Please do not leave any buttons or other controls unlabelled. This will make no sense at all to our screen readers as all they will hear is "button" or whatever control is unlabelled at the time. Even if the label is an icon or other image, this isn't good enough for a screen reader.
Thank you for listening, no pung intended.


locked Re: calendar

Duane
 

I bet those are the "previous" and "next" buttons. They just show as a left arrow and a right arrow and work on month, week, and day. Today only becomes active if you're not on the current month/week/day.

Duane


locked Re: Site updates #changelog

Duane
 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 01:18 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hmm. I just grabbed FF 36.0.4 and the buttons show up fine (on MacOS).
Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks,
Mark
How embarrassing for me! If I turn off Adblock, I can see them. Hope I didn't cause too much unnecessary work.

Many thanks,
Duane