Has anyone tried this yet? Can there be more than one person posting through the integration? Or do I need to create a specific Instagram account for my group if I want others to be able to post pictures to our group. Or if I enable it for my group, does that then move it into the Member Integrations area so that others can use it for their own accounts? Any limitation on the number of people using the integration?

I am not an Instagram user but I realize, especially with younger users, this would be popular.

Thanks.

Frances

Hi Mark

In several groups I've seen a notification "please use a subjectline
that's clearer than 're: digest so and so'" - and then people STILL
use those subjectlines (and sometimes send along the entire digest..)

I don't know if it would be too fancy (too much programming), but how
about automatically rejecting and sending back any message that has a
subjectline
" re: [groupname] digest # ..."

Since everybody has different digest-numbers such subjectlines would
be even more confusing than in yahoo/googlegroups.

(yes I know digests now have a "do not reply" adress)

groetjes, Ronaldo

On 2/11/2015 6:10 PM, J. Faulkner wrote:

I am an owner of a couple of groups and moderator of several with full access except deleting the group and the only thing I can do is change their mail delivery, i.e. Individual, Digest, etc. and unsubscribe.

Plus posting privs, moderate/not - that's about
all I know that I can do also.

dg

Ronaldo, I don't think this is true unless something has happened that I don't know about or there are other options that I did not know about.

I am an owner of a couple of groups and moderator of several with full access except deleting the group and the only thing I can do is change their mail delivery, i.e. Individual, Digest, etc. and unsubscribe. The other things I can do are owner/moderator type changes.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

Changes to the site today:

• Behind the scene improvements to the Yahoo Easy Group transfer process
• Found and fixed a race condition in the email sending code that may have led to duplicate emails.
• Fixed a bug with parsing poorly formed Reference: email headers.
• Launched one click unsubscribe.

One click unsubscribe

Unsubscribe links in footers will now instantly unsubscribe you. At the same time, you'll get an email with a resume subscription link that's valid for 3 days. The resume link will not work if you've been banned or have subscribed again some other way. And we look for these unsubscribe links in emails and scrub them to prevent shenanigans.

Mark

As far as I know, in yahoogroups a moderator can change any setting from any member. I don't recall any story of that being a problem.

This doesn't include adding a new email-adress, but I think giving iogroups moderators that option wouldn't lead to problems either.

groetjes, Ronaldo

On 2/10/2015 1:48 PM, J. Faulkner wrote:

This was explained because of the discussion about a member unsubscribing by mistake and being allowed to send the unsubscribed message saying they made a mistake and they would be reinstated.

Or worse, if someone else unsubscribes them.

My personal opinion is that such a link take the person to
the membership options for the group where "leave group"
is a clear option - and a secondary "are you sure" question
is asked.

I think most folks are used to being asked if they want to
do something permanent as a secondary level of security.
Primary is being asked to sign in to the group. The
checkmark or leave group option can default to "on" when
using that link.

Especially important for groups such as the ones Judy is
involved with.

dg

Shal -
I really appreciate your input on this. This isn't often needed, but when it is, it's the only way, short of going to where the member is, to help them. As you noted, it's the equivalent risk to remote access. And yet the industry still has a need for remote access, and for the same reason. Requiring that this be part of a paid subscription would also be one more protection. Otherwise, it's a similar situation to remote access, still requiring user permission first. And I am assuming there would be a separate trail of actions for access to user accounts. Just as with the IT industry, it appears to be a necessary evil in a few extreme situations.
Dano

Dano,

Perhaps this could go so far as to allow the owner to change message
delivery settings and add alternate email addresses.
...
I recognize this pushes some security concerns ...

Yeah, no kidding.

In Yahoo Groups the "Alternate Posting Address" was treated as an alias for the member's true address. In particular, without looking at the message header one couldn't tell that the alternate address had been used. I think under the hood it operated a lot like an email From address spoof. In the hands of an unscrupulous moderator that could be a nasty way to damage a member's reputation or convert the member into a sock-puppet.

If Groups.io were to implement something like this, or the ability to change a member's email address, I think it might be best thought of in the same ways as a Remote Assistance session: very useful, very dangerous.

I think member-initiated and time-limited are two good restrictions. My primary concern with that is the one expressed by Dano and Judy: how to make it simple enough for the member who needs it most to initiate it. Maybe there needs to be more than one way: an email way for members that can't find the group's pages and a web way for those who can't fathom an email command.

Direct add of members would allow us some way to reconnect him and
delete his old account, but we still need to be able to change things to
help him out.

That's the only way to change the address of an email-only member: Remove the old address and Add the new one. Which in Yahoo Groups ceased to be possible when they completely removed the Add Member feature. And isn't possible for free in Groups.io.

For members with web access that method is rude: it discards their subscription settings and destroys their identity as the owner of prior content (they would no longer be able to delete or edit the messages posted under the old address).

-- Shal