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Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group
On 1/26/2015 8:28 PM, David P. Dillard wrote:
Only if you use the Gmail Web interface. If you use a *real* email client - Thunderbird, for example (because that's what I use), they have a POP server - and if you use another email to get ggroup email at a different address, it gets delivered individually, including your own, the way any listserver software works. dg
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Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group
David P. Dillard
My preference is to block this feature for all email providers so that members of any GroupIO group get the mail they sent back as evidence there posts were sent to members by the list server.
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Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@temple.edu
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:28 PM, David P. Dillard <jwne@temple.edu> wrote:
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Re: No new threads from Inbox
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Frances <travel@...> wrote: I just realized that I can't start a new thread from the Inbox. I can only reply by clicking on a message. I have to go to the specific group to post a new message. Not a problem, I guess, but I hope this doesn't mean our groups will get inundated with off-topic emails on threads! A concern or needless nit-picking?! A real concern, not a nit-pick. It's on the todo list. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:28 PM, David P. Dillard <jwne@...> wrote:
Many email providers do this. I used to think there was nothing I could do to circumvent this, but in the course of building support for edited messages, I found a way, and it's not difficult. If there's demand, I could add this feature. Would you want this on a per-subscription basis, or for all your subscriptions? Mark
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Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group
David P. Dillard
This has nothing to do with Groups.IO. It is yet another delightful feature of Gmail, don't go to Hades without it. Temple University has a corporate Gmail account for its students staff and faculty. Gmail in the infinite wisdom of Herr Google has determined that though shalt not find emails that thou sendeth in thine Inbox for if thou sentest the email thou shouldest know what it looketh like. Such great wisdom, wasted on email when such brilliance could be solving the world's problems. Sad.
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, pnrfan@gmail.com wrote:
If I start a new thread via email, I'm not receiving a copy back in my mail after it passes through the group.
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Re: Markdown
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Glad you like it!
I went with adding a 'markup=markdown' parameter, as outlined here: So, at least Markdown emails sent using MailMate should work. I found no other ideas/suggestions for how to support Markdown in email. I'm open to suggestions. A special subject hashtag? First line of the message be some sort of special phrase? Mark
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Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group
If you want a copy you have to send it from the groups webpage (or maybe from a third party app like the one I'm using). Gmail won't add duplicate messages when emailed from Gmail. So even though it appears to come from the group, Gmail knows it came from you and that message is already in your archives. So it cannot duplicate it. It's a pain in the butt, but I understand the logic behind it. Sara Sent from Blue Mail
On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:10 PM, "pnrfan@..." <pnrfan@...> wrote:
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If I start a new thread via email, I'm not receiving a copy back in my mail after it passes through the group. Some members are getting theirs when they send a message, but I am not. Trish
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I just realized that I can't start a new thread from the Inbox. I can only reply by clicking on a message. I have to go to the specific group to post a new message. Not a problem, I guess, but I hope this doesn't mean our groups will get inundated with off-topic emails on threads! A concern or needless nit-picking?!
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Re: Suggestion for files settings
Judy, Are you talking about the files that go out to pending members or are you talking about approving pending members? These are Member Notices, which are files that get sent out to: Welcome Pending Goodbye Banned All can be modified to suit your group's info/needs. Trish
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:36 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:
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Group transfer - Google Groups
Hi Mark Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Suggestion for files settings
Judy F.
My note did not look like this when I sent it. Each one of the steps I took were on separate lines. Is this because I am replying from Outlook and it is set to HTML?
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From: J. Faulkner [mailto:jfaulkner44@embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:49 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: RE: [beta] Re: Suggestion for files settings Shal, I thought I did and I still get the list I referred to. Here's what I did On the group, I clicked the Setting button on the left When I scroll down it shows Moderated, Restricted, etc. I then clicked Member Notices at the top and it shows a welcome message I clicked Update Notices at the bottom and it looks like I get basically the same options as above. I also clicked on all of the down arrows I'm lost. I don't see any place where I can pick when pended, when approve, when denied, etc. I'm sure it's there, but I can't find it. Judy F. SW Florida - USA -----Original Message----- From: Shal Farley [mailto:shal@roadrunner.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:18 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Suggestion for files settings Judy F., > If I am reading that page correctly, those settings are group > settings (who can do what). That’s not what I am talking about. There's more than one tab on the Settings page. Click "Member Notices" near the top center. -- Shal
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Re: The Biggest Deal Breaker -- Database
#suggestion
Judy F.
You don’t know that, people amaze me every day. LOL
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: Chris Leong [mailto:walkraft@...]
"Chris, I’m really confused by your statement that Yahoo Groups has dropped the database feature." - I confused "ruining" the feature with removing it.
"Example: on my group, I have a table where members provide information about their location, machine they have, software they have and email. Then all members can check to see if there is anyone in their area that they can contact to get more help with their machines, etc." - a Google Spreadsheet could handle this use case.
"They will say forget it! They will just unsubscribe like a large number of members did when Neo came about." - it is the responsibility of admins to educate their users (or alternatively, to decide no to).
Regardless, a large number of people who left Yahoo groups aren't going to come back, even if Groups.io was a perfect replica.
On 27 January 2015 at 13:20, David P. Dillard <jwne@...> wrote:
David,
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Judy F.
Shal, I thought I did and I still get the list I referred to. Here's what I did
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On the group, I clicked the Setting button on the left When I scroll down it shows Moderated, Restricted, etc. I then clicked Member Notices at the top and it shows a welcome message I clicked Update Notices at the bottom and it looks like I get basically the same options as above. I also clicked on all of the down arrows I'm lost. I don't see any place where I can pick when pended, when approve, when denied, etc. I'm sure it's there, but I can't find it. Judy F. SW Florida - USA
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From: Shal Farley [mailto:shal@roadrunner.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:18 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Suggestion for files settings Judy F., > If I am reading that page correctly, those settings are group > settings (who can do what). That’s not what I am talking about. There's more than one tab on the Settings page. Click "Member Notices" near the top center. -- Shal
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Re: Home Page Formatting
#suggestion
Judy F.
Maybe I should rephrase my previous statement. I don't think a lot of the extra stuff, should be on the homepage. I think a description of the group, what is allowed and isn't type stuff and of course the various group email addresses.
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From: J. Faulkner [mailto:jfaulkner44@embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:17 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: RE: [beta] Re: Home Page Formatting #Suggestions I agree Duane. A lot of groups have the basic group rules, such as if advertising is allowed, what the group is about. I don't think a lot of that stuff should be there either. Judy F. SW Florida - USA -----Original Message----- From: Duane [mailto:txpigeon@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:59 AM To: beta@groups.io Subject: [beta] Re: Home Page Formatting #Suggestions Chris, That all depends on the users and the group. I'd rather not have Top Posters (nor Recent Photos when implemented) shown on the page visible to the public like it is now. If it was a public group, I wouldn't mind so much. I think the ultimate solution would be for which items are displayed to be controlled by the group owner. Maybe a limited subset could be configurable. I would think that Group Description, Group Settings, and Group Email Addresses should always be shown. Message History was also a concern for a lot of Yahoo group owners to indicate activity. Top Hashtags could go either way. For me, the group home page is a very temporary stop, if I see it at all. I've got bookmarks to the archives/messages set up for most of them. I want it to have enough information to entice folks to join, but not so much that it looks cluttered. Duane
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Re: The Biggest Deal Breaker -- Database
#suggestion
"Chris, I’m really confused by your statement that Yahoo Groups has dropped the database feature." - I confused "ruining" the feature with removing it. "Example: on my group, I have a table where members provide information about their location, machine they have, software they have and email. Then all members can check to see if there is anyone in their area that they can contact to get more help with their machines, etc." - a Google Spreadsheet could handle this use case. "They will say forget it! They will just unsubscribe like a large number of members did when Neo came about." - it is the responsibility of admins to educate their users (or alternatively, to decide no to). Regardless, a large number of people who left Yahoo groups aren't going to come back, even if Groups.io was a perfect replica.
On 27 January 2015 at 13:20, David P. Dillard <jwne@...> wrote:
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Re: [owlperch] To Duane, Matthew, Shal & Tyger
Judy F.
Mark, hopefully you understand you are human and you can make mistakes. I’m amazed at how well you are handling all of these I like this, I don’t like this messages.
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Yes, this has been bugging me ever since it happened. I'm not sure whether to be happy or deeply embarrassed and a little horrified, but I found the bug and it was in our end of the line. This only was tripped when one connection is used to send multiple emails. The first email goes through fine. The second email ends up being sent to the first email's group.
I could not find any other instances of this happening in the logs. It has been fixed. I am sorry.
Mark
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Re: Photos Wishlist Thread
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Judy F.
Duane, everything you said is good and on my wishlist also. One thing you didn't mention was giving the owner/moderator of the group ability to remove or edit photos. The editing should also be allowed for the owner of the photo. No other member can edit or delete another member's photos.
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From: Duane [mailto:txpigeon@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 11:01 AM To: beta@groups.io Subject: [beta] Re: Photos Wishlist Thread #photos #wishlist My wishlist for a Photos section: 1. When photos are uploaded, "resize" them for online use. Many folks use the highest resolution and number of colors when taking pictures. These aren't needed for screen viewing, only for full size printing. I've had people email me photos at 4320x3240, 600 dpi, 32 million colors with a file size well over 3 MB when a file that was resampled to 35-50 KB would have worked as well. (not sure if it's feasible, but check for file type and not allow photos to be uploaded to the Files area.) 2. Sub-albums would be nice. I see it as having an album for each member, though not required, and having sub-albums for specific items. 3. I'd like each member to be able to use their own album/sub, but also be able to add to a general group album/sub when needed. 4. Title and description for each photo. 5. Allow owner/moderator to move photos (and files) as needed to maintain the intended layout of the group. Ownership of the file should be maintained by the person that uploaded it. 6. Comments, photostream, rating, and other options aren't currently important to me, but I can see how they could be useful. Duane
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David P. Dillard
Thanks for the advice, I already did this towards the end of last year.
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Blog https://educatorgold.wordpress.com/ I really appreciate your sharing these insights with me, you are very knowledgable about these matters. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@temple.edu http://workface.com/e/daviddillard Net-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html https://groups.io/org/groupsio/Net-Gold/archives http://net-gold.3172864.n2.nabble.com/ Research Guides https://sites.google.com/site/researchguidesonsites/ RESEARCH PAPER WRITING http://guides.temple.edu/research-papers EMPLOYMENT http://guides.temple.edu/employment-guide INTERNSHIPS http://guides.temple.edu/employment-internships HOSPITALITY http://guides.temple.edu/hospitality-guide DISABILITIES AND EMPLOYMENT http://guides.temple.edu/c.php?g=134557 INDOOR GARDENING https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/IndoorGardeningUrban/info Educator-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/ K12ADMINLIFE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K12AdminLIFE/ PUBLIC HEALTH RESOURCES INCLUDING EBOLA http://guides.temple.edu/public-health-guide Blog https://educatorgold.wordpress.com/ The Russell Conwell Learning Center Research Guide: Information Literacy http://tinyurl.com/78a4shn Nina Dillard's Photographs on Net-Gold http://www.flickr.com/photos/neemers/ Twitter: davidpdillard Temple University Site Map https://sites.google.com/site/templeunivsitemap/home Bushell, R. & Sheldon, P. (eds), Wellness and Tourism: Mind, Body, Spirit, Place, New York: Cognizant Communication Books. Wellness Tourism: Bibliographic and Webliographic Essay David P. Dillard http://tinyurl.com/p63whl RailTram Discussion Group From the Union Pacific to BritRail and Beyond https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/railtram/info INDOOR GARDENING Improve Your Chances for Indoor Gardening Success http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndoorGardeningUrban/ SPORT-MED https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/sport-med.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sports-med/ http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/sport-med.html HEALTH DIET FITNESS RECREATION SPORTS TOURISM https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/healthrecsport/info http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/health-recreation-sports-tourism.html
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, Duane wrote:
David,
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Judy F.
I second this.
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: robertgmam@... [mailto:robertgmam@...]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 10:20 AM To: beta@groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] The case for social logins
I would never use so-called ‘social logins’. If people want that sort of thing, then by all means have it available to them, but don’t let’s all have to suffer it to the exclusion of a proper login. Those of us who abhor social media do not want to go down the road of copying the likes of Google and Facebook. The slide of Yahoo Groups into that sort of thing is exactly why we need a home for our Groups away from Yahoo Neo in the first place!
Regards, Robert.
From: Chris Leong Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:24 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: [beta] The case for social logins
I believe that social logins (ie. login via Google or Facebook) are some of the most important features that this site could have.
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