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locked Re: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

Laurence Taylor
 

Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Right now, all member notices, like this one, are sent from ignore@groups.io,
which is a blackhole. Should I change that to group+owner@groups.io? We're
talking things like the welcome, pending sub, rejected sub, goodbye and
banned messages.
All such messages should come from the owner address. With the possible
exceptyion of the banning notice, they could all have - or even ask for
- valid responses.

If there is a demand for having unreplyable notifications, perhaps this
could be made an option when creating the message.

--
rgds
LAurence
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locked Downtime this morning

 

Hopefully you didn't notice, but the service was down from about 8:20am until a little after 9am. The main web server rebooted a couple of times and there were hanging connections to the database. I'm investigating what happened now, and I apologize if I don't get to beta & support email until this afternoon.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: #suggestion

 

The ones that have accepted the invitation will disappear from the outstanding invitations list after a certain period of time.

Trish

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:
Hi

Sounds like some people would prefer that the “paper trail” stay. Others wish to delete names that are dealt with.

Can we not automatically delete those that have accepted and still be able to delete names if we wish?

Frances

> On Feb 27 15, at 1:27 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
>
> dg,
>
>>> Delete from list might confuse people.
>>> Cancel invitation?
>>
>> All seem to intimate that the invited is no longer welcome.
>
> Well, that would apparently be true if a moderator rescinds an invitation whose status is still "Sent". If the invitee has already "Accepted", and is no longer welcome, the moderator must remove him/her from the Members list.
>
>> Does anyone want to know who has been added and who
>> was truly "rescinded"?
>
> I like having both the Sent (not yet accepted) and Accepted invitations listed there. Come to think of it, I would even support the idea of having rescinded invitations stay in the list, with that status, so I'd have a record of who I changed my mind about.
>
> -- Shal
>
>
>
>
>
>








locked Re: #suggestion

 

On 2/26/2015 10:27 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I like having both the Sent (not yet accepted) and Accepted invitations listed there. Come to think of it, I would even support the idea of having rescinded invitations stay in the list, with that status, so I'd have a record of who I changed my mind about.
I guess that since I have never, AFAIK, used Invite in YG,
I'm used to GG - the name disappears from the list when the
person accepts there.

MailMan installations I've used allow direct add.

So for me, all I am used to, and all that I can think of
needing is the unaccepted invites list; no need to know
later if the request to join was initiated by me or the
member. What would you need that info for? (Seriously
curious).

dg


locked Re: #suggestion

Frances
 

Hi

Sounds like some people would prefer that the “paper trail” stay. Others wish to delete names that are dealt with.

Can we not automatically delete those that have accepted and still be able to delete names if we wish?

Frances

On Feb 27 15, at 1:27 AM, Shal Farley <shal@roadrunner.com> wrote:

dg,

Delete from list might confuse people.
Cancel invitation?
All seem to intimate that the invited is no longer welcome.
Well, that would apparently be true if a moderator rescinds an invitation whose status is still "Sent". If the invitee has already "Accepted", and is no longer welcome, the moderator must remove him/her from the Members list.

Does anyone want to know who has been added and who
was truly "rescinded"?
I like having both the Sent (not yet accepted) and Accepted invitations listed there. Come to think of it, I would even support the idea of having rescinded invitations stay in the list, with that status, so I'd have a record of who I changed my mind about.

-- Shal






locked Re: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

You could just change the pending sub to
as the others would not require a response.

On 26 Feb 2015, at 22:37, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:41 PM, christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...> wrote:
A list I have just subscribed to had a pending application which I had to fill out. It looks like the owners/moderators did not get my response as per the below message. As you can see, this forward has been edited to not personally identify anybody either by name or email address.


Right now, all member notices, like this one, are sent from ignore@groups.io, which is a blackhole. Should I change that to group+owner@groups.io? We're talking things like the welcome, pending sub, rejected sub, goodbye and banned messages.

Thanks,
Mark



locked Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

Judy F.
 

Yes, I would do the latter, but was thinking about those that didn't want to
access the group like Duane mentioned.

I like the Help page idea for having the information available.

Thanks Shal.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley [mailto:shal@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:10 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: RE: [beta] Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

Judy,

Duane, I would think they have to be somewhere so anyone wanting to do
one of those things knows what address so to speak is.
Perhaps only in a help page. If you're already at the group's pages it is
simpler to click on "Subscription" and change the setting directly.

Or add them under the "Group Email Addresses" heading on the group's home
page, to go with the Post, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Group Owner, and Help
addresses that are listed there now.

-- Shal


locked Re: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

That's my thinking. The reply should go to
and not

On 27 Feb 2015, at 04:42, Steph <hsrsp@...> wrote:

I would use the owner's address.

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:41 PM, christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...> wrote:
A list I have just subscribed to had a pending application which I had to fill out. It looks like the owners/moderators did not get my response as per the below message. As you can see, this forward has been edited to not personally identify anybody either by name or email address.


Right now, all member notices, like this one, are sent from ignore@groups.io, which is a blackhole. Should I change that to group+owner@groups.io? We're talking things like the welcome, pending sub, rejected sub, goodbye and banned messages.

Thanks,
Mark


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locked Re: #suggestion

 

dg,

Delete from list might confuse people.
Cancel invitation?
All seem to intimate that the invited is no longer welcome.
Well, that would apparently be true if a moderator rescinds an invitation whose status is still "Sent". If the invitee has already "Accepted", and is no longer welcome, the moderator must remove him/her from the Members list.

Does anyone want to know who has been added and who
was truly "rescinded"?
I like having both the Sent (not yet accepted) and Accepted invitations listed there. Come to think of it, I would even support the idea of having rescinded invitations stay in the list, with that status, so I'd have a record of who I changed my mind about.

-- Shal


locked Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

 

Judy,

Duane, I would think they have to be somewhere so anyone wanting to do
one of those things knows what address so to speak is.
Perhaps only in a help page. If you're already at the group's pages it is simpler to click on "Subscription" and change the setting directly.

Or add them under the "Group Email Addresses" heading on the group's home page, to go with the Post, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Group Owner, and Help addresses that are listed there now.

-- Shal


locked Re: #suggestion

 

Frances,

It really is only housekeeping - getting the name off a specific page,
so that we can see which ones have not joined yet.
You don't need to waste time pruning the list for that, just click on the word "Status" to sort the "Sent" invites to the top (or click twice if the first time is the wrong-way up).

-- Shal


locked Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

Judy F.
 

Duane, I would think they have to be somewhere so anyone wanting to do one of those things knows what address so to speak is.

Judy
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane [mailto:txpigeon@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:12 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

Judy,

I don't believe the options will actually show up anyplace unless you add them. You could include them in the Welcome message to group members using the real groupname. It's just a shortcut for folks that don't go to the group online to make the changes as you do.

Duane


locked Site Updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site today:

  • Added email commands for changing email delivery.
  • Fixed a bug in pending/edited messages that contained embedded photos (imgs with contentids).
  • Made attachments larger on the site, and we don't display attachments with contentids separately.
  • Added full screen/code view/help to summernote wysywig editor in create/manage group, post, edit post.
  • Fixed permissions issue where mods with member approval but not makemod couldn't access an individual member page.

Mark


locked Re: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

Steph <hsrsp@...>
 

I would use the owner's address.

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:41 PM, christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...> wrote:
A list I have just subscribed to had a pending application which I had to fill out. It looks like the owners/moderators did not get my response as per the below message. As you can see, this forward has been edited to not personally identify anybody either by name or email address.


Right now, all member notices, like this one, are sent from ignore@groups.io, which is a blackhole. Should I change that to group+owner@groups.io? We're talking things like the welcome, pending sub, rejected sub, goodbye and banned messages.

Thanks,
Mark


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locked Re: #suggestion

 

On 2/26/2015 2:19 PM, pnrfan@gmail.com wrote:
Delete from list might confuse people.
Cancel invitation?
All seem to intimate that the invited is no longer
welcome.

Does anyone want to know who has been added and who
was truly "rescinded"?

If so, is there a way to automate accepted invitations?

Or 2 "delete" options - accepted/rejected?

dg


locked Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

Duane
 

Judy,

I don't believe the options will actually show up anyplace unless you add them. You could include them in the Welcome message to group members using the real groupname. It's just a shortcut for folks that don't go to the group online to make the changes as you do.

Duane


locked Re: Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

Judy F.
 

Mark, as you can see I am just now catching up on messages.  I don’t remember seeing any replies here, but here are my thoughts. 

 

I don’t want to send an email to turn digest or any mail delivery off or on.  I want to be able to access the group, click on mail delivery I prefer and  yes or no or whatever the options are and save and that’s it.  Now if we have both options, then that should make all of us happy

 

With the options you show below, where would they be and would they be showing the actual group name or would it have to be entered?  I ask this because on the buying selling group the sellers are supposed to send their ads to group name@... and because they have auto complete turned on, they send them to groupname-owner@... .  This wastes time for the moderator to go back to them and tell them to repost. 

 

Thanks,. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:30 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Email command to turn digest mode on or off?

 

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:22 PM, christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...> wrote:

Hi all,
With other group providers, it is possible to turn digest mode on or off simply by sending a command by email to the list server. Same is true for no mail. Can this be implemented in groups.io? Someone tried to do this on our The Tech Zone list, prompting me to send this suggestion.
Thank you, I look forward to any comments on this.

 

We now support the following email commands:

 

groupname+help

groupname+single

groupname+digest

groupname+special

groupname+nomail

 

Thanks,

Mark 


locked Re: Group home page information

Duane
 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 04:49 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

I *love* this idea. It is done. You may have to do a shift reload to get
the new stylesheet. I just used normal green. If anyone knows a green that
more closely matches an old IBM Monochrome monitor, please let me know
(Google did not come through for me).

Mark
56ED96 looks very close to me. I've actually got an original PC monitor in my stash, but no telling if it still works.

Duane


locked Re: #suggestion

 

How about "Remove Pending Invitation"?  Yes, I know that's long, but the "Pending" part gets rid of the doubt that it affects a member who has already joined.

JohnF



locked Re: Group home page information

 

Mark,

I suggested green or orange characters reminiscent of the the CRT
terminals of yesteryear.
I *love* this idea. It is done.
I used ADDS Consul terminals at my first job. They came with eye-ease orange phosphor, and orange keycaps to match. Later VT-100 clones (C.Itoh CIT-101). Easter egg: the designation "CIT-101" also referred to California Institute of Technology - my former college roommate got the contract to program those terminals.

So I probably shouldn't show you these:
https://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/VT323
http://sensi.org/~svo/glasstty/
(note the copyright notice on the bottom of that latter one)

-- Shal