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Re: ID to datatable #bug

Jim Wilson
 

Duane is right. ID goes back to the early days of databases where every row is assigned a unique and permanent number. One benefit is finding duplicates to remove the later entry.
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Jim


Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

Mark Murphy
 

May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?

Thank you.


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

Duane
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 08:19 AM, ro-esp wrote:
Click "reply to this message", click the "balloon" to quote.
That means that you're replying online, not from within TB.  That's the only place you'd get the "balloon" to quote.

Duane


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

ro-esp
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Shal Farley wrote:


Robert,

> I'm somewhat surprised that Groups.io members who use Thunderbird,
> e.g. Shal, haven't run into this problem before. Maybe, like me, they
> rarely if ever use the digest footer links to "Reply to Group" or
> "Reply to Sender." I usually reply to individual messages using e-mail
> and use the Groups.io web interface to reply to a digest message..

Bingo.

I almost never use the footer links in either individual or digest
messages. Specifically because I inline reply with quote, as herein, and
the footer links don't give me a copy of the original message to work
with. So in individual messages I use Thunderbird's Reply button. In the
rare case of replying to a Digest I probably would go on site.
This is confusing. I do inline quoting (interspersing) all the time when replying to (plain) digests. Click "reply to this message", click the "balloon" to quote...

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


Re: #suggestion Internationalisation in french ? #suggestion

ro-esp
 

Offering several more languages would be nice, but for that we'd need a list of ALL notifications and prompts used by groups.io and a way to add translations.

Does Mark have the time to create something like that? Can he hire someone to do it?

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

Mark,

I wrote:
I just updated from 68.12.1 (32-bit) to 78.4.0 (32-bit) and I don't
get my pop-open windows anymore. Just the blank page.
I've done some testing and it seems to relate to the <a> element wrapped around the mailto link:

<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"...">Reply To Group</a>
In particular, the target="_blank" attribute seems to be the troublemaker. Absent that the enclosed mailto: seems to work fine, and opens a new composition window.

That still makes it a Thunderbird bug, unless there's some reason one isn't supposed to combine target with a mailto: protocol in the href. Which seems like an unlikely restriction. But it may explain how it got through testing if that's an unusual construction.

Shal
(For those following along at home, the "=3D" sequences in the example are just equal signs, in quoted-printable form. A consequence of me copying from a view source of the HTML message body.)


moderated Re: database embedding options #suggestion

Duane
 

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:26 PM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:
Provide database embedding options to external sites
Please try to be more patient.  Some suggestions take longer than others to get on the 'important' list, if they ever do.  I know of one case where it took almost 4 years before it was deemed worthwhile to implement, but was worth the wait.  In other cases, it's not worth doing at all because it would benefit such a limited number of groups.

Duane


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

And for the denouement, the group member, who was determined to blame this on groups.io and kept wailing to me about how she "could always reply to digests in yahoo," was in the end totally insouciant about my efforts to figure out her problem and the determination that it was a TB, not a groups.io, bug. I think she was disappointed. I told her she could report the bug to TB if she was so inclined and gave her the verbiage to describe it to them. She just shrugged it off and said, "There will be another version soon." I resisted the urge to say "you're welcome" lol.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

J,

We're way ahead of you.:) Herb G determined that it's a bug in the
most recent TB upgrade. The last version didn't do it.
So you are.

I just updated from 68.12.1 (32-bit) to 78.4.0 (32-bit) and I don't get my pop-open windows anymore. Just the blank page.

Shal


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:40 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I'm more and more persuaded that this is a Thunderbird bug and not a
Groups.io bug.
You're probably right there.
We're way ahead of you.:) Herb G determined that it's a bug in the most recent TB upgrade. The last version didn't do it.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

Robert,

I'm somewhat surprised that Groups.io members who use Thunderbird,
e.g. Shal, haven't run into this problem before. Maybe, like me, they
rarely if ever use the digest footer links to "Reply to Group" or
"Reply to Sender." I usually reply to individual messages using e-mail
and use the Groups.io web interface to reply to a digest message..
Bingo.

I almost never use the footer links in either individual or digest messages. Specifically because I inline reply with quote, as herein, and the footer links don't give me a copy of the original message to work with. So in individual messages I use Thunderbird's Reply button. In the rare case of replying to a Digest I probably would go on site.

I'm more and more persuaded that this is a Thunderbird bug and not a
Groups.io bug.
You're probably right there.

Thunderbird does not encode the links in the mailto: Subject line at
all. Spaces are spaces.
I don't think that's the problem. That is, I think Thunderbird is just showing you human readable form when you hover.

My experience is weirdly different though.

For me, if I'm reading the message in the preview pane (as I usually do) in either individual or digest, clicking on either the Reply to Group link or Reply to Sender, link gets me an open compose window, with the From, To, and Subject correctly filled in.

But, it also gives me a new tab on the main Thunderbird window, and that tab sits there blank with the tab label saying "Loading...".

Weirdly if I open the message into its own window I get inconsistent results, sometimes correct, sometimes absent To and Subject. So maybe the user's experience of this bug depends on some setting or view layout in Thunderbird.

Shal


Re: ID to datatable #bug

Duane
 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 06:49 PM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:
When I delete a line, the ID don't change
That's the way it works.  The ID numbers never change and are created when a new row is added.  The number is deleted when you delete a row, but they're never used again on that database.

Duane


ID to datatable #bug

Benoît Dumeaux
 

When I delete a line, the ID don't change


moderated Re: database embedding options #suggestion

Benoît Dumeaux
 

https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/6749


Re: Add a "select all" checkbox to Export Group Data screen #suggestion

Gene
 

Great suggestion.
Gene J


On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 3:29 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Having to tick each box every time I want to back up my group is kinda tedious. Clearing them one by one after being checked is also.

Thanks for your consideration,
Bruce


Add a "select all" checkbox to Export Group Data screen #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Having to tick each box every time I want to back up my group is kinda tedious. Clearing them one by one after being checked is also.

Thanks for your consideration,
Bruce


Plan Comparison page needs minor updates #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

Not really a bug, but I don't know what else to call it.

The page at https://groups.io/static/compare shows that Photos and Files are limited to 100MB on the Basic plan. Since neither feature is actually available for new Basic groups, it seems to me these entries should be removed.

Also, Polls are available for Premium and above, but are no longer available in Basic. I suggest changing the "Chat" row header to "Polls and Chat." 

FYI,
Bruce


Default time fields in database #suggestion

Peter Cook
 

I've created a database with two time fields that are optional. However, if a member enters a row and does nothing with those fields, they are automatically filled in with 10:30am. So the member has to take an extra step to delete the contents of those fields if he or she doesn't want them filled in. It's an extra step and unfortunately not everyone realizes they need to do it. 

Could you have time fields (and there may be others of the same ilk) default to blank?

Thanks!
{Pete


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

Messsges crossing. This is great info! Thanks!!!


On Oct 30, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Herb Gellis <herbg@...> wrote:

Me again... I upgraded to Thunderbird 78.4.0 (32-bit) and now clicking on those Reply to Group (or also Sender) links did nada! So, clearly this new release has broken something.

-Herb Gellis

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

So it’s working in that version. Interesting data point. Curious to see what happens when you “update.” 😊 Let us know!


On Oct 30, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Herb Gellis <herbg@...> wrote:

 Not wishing the swell the ranks of replies, but as a test (since I use Thunderbird on Windows), I clicked the link on this from the beta digest I receive. I have version 68.12.1 (32-bit). It says I can update to that 78.4.0, which I will momentarily.

-Herb Gellis

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu