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locked can only be logged in under one email address in same browser?

 

I created a test group so I could test various things, including invitations. I sent an invitation to myself at a different email address. I received the invitation at the second address, clicked on "confirm your subscription," and was taken to a page saying the system "had logged me in." (I had not created a password for the second email address.)

I went back to my browser in which I was signed into gmail with the first (owner) email address and found that I was logged in as the second email address and could not access my group as the owner. I had to log out to do that.

It seems that you can only be logged in as a single email address within a single browser. Correct? Is there any way to change that?

J


locked Re: Group Name In Banner #suggestion

 

Mark B.,

Ift does NOT work if one has a message open, instead of getting the
Groups.io group name the subject line of the message is displayed.
You're right. I'd forgotten to check. Various other pages too replace the group name with something more specific. I like it pretty much as it is, so my idea of looking at the tab can't be advised as a general rule for identifying the group.

-- Shal


locked Re: Is it just me, or is this incorrect?

 

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:50 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Oh, yes, I see your point! That makes sense.
J

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:
 Hello,
Yes, I get that. But, rather than saying "That group", shouldn't it say "This group?" As you say, I'm on the home page, so I'm here, not there. Sorry if I'm confusing.

----- Original Message -----
From: J_catlady  <j.olivia.catlady@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Is it just me, or is this incorrect?

>
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> You can be on a group's home page without being subscribed. You just won't be able to see anything that is private to the group.
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:
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> Hello,
> So, I've  tried to view the archive of a list, that is private, and I'm not subscribed to. HOWEVER, the error message I got questioned me. It says: "You are not subscribed to that group." Given the fact that I'm currently on it's home page, shouldn't it be this group? As I said, it could just be me, but this rather than that, in my opinion, makes sense.
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
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Sent from a Braille Sense






locked Re: "NC" redux - what is it?

 

I mean the language in the email, asking to confirm their email address (as you put it). But this is for another thread. Thanks. ;)

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
As far as I know, the email is still sent.  Could be that it went to a spam folder for some reason.

Duane







locked Re: "NC" redux - what is it?

Duane
 

As far as I know, the email is still sent. Could be that it went to a spam folder for some reason.

Duane


locked Re: "NC" redux - what is it?

 

Is there still any such email? Or has that changed? I am getting contrary (but possibly confused) reports.
Yes, search kicks butt here. ;)

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
It means they haven't clicked on the link in the email they got to confirm their email address.  (BTW, the search function works really well here on IO. ;>)

Duane







locked Re: "NC" redux - what is it?

Duane
 

It means they haven't clicked on the link in the email they got to confirm their email address. (BTW, the search function works really well here on IO. ;>)

Duane


locked Re: Signature LInes

Cathie Phillips <cathiep@...>
 

Thanks for the help on the signature lines. --cath

 

From: Ro [mailto:recarlton@...]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 10:53 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signature LInes

 

Yes.  You go into your email settings to set up a sig line.  Both Hotmail and Yahoo have this feature in their settings.  Not sure about gmail.  I have had my sig line forever, and my font color as well this way. 


Ro

with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.

 



> From: brajmund2000@...
> To: beta@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [beta] Signature LInes
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:51:21 +0000
>
> Hello,
> Aren't they setting it up within their email client?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...>
> To: beta@groups.io
> Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:06 am
> Subject: [beta] Re: Signature LInes
>
> >
> >
> > Duane,
> >
> > If it's not on the TO DO list, how can some people have one? Some posters in here have a signature line. How are they doing that?
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
>
>
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locked Re: information (IP address, etc.) of pending members #suggestion

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Beyond IP address, I'd love to be able to see their email client, that could be a give away, given that they use one, that is.

----- Original Message -----
From: J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:56 pm
Subject: [beta] information (IP address, etc.) of pending members #wishlist



I have a troll who frequently tries to join my group (previously the Yahoo group, and now perhaps this one) under various IDs. Does Groups.io provide any information about pending members, such as their IP address, that moderators can see? If so, where can I find it? If not, I'd like to request it.
J
Sent from a Braille Sense


locked "NC" redux - what is it?

 

Can someone remind me what "NC" ("not confirmed") actuallly means? I have a pending member now with that notation. I realize it's been discussed here but it's the first time I've seen it in my group.

Thanks.

J


locked information (IP address, etc.) of pending members #suggestion

 

I have a troll who frequently tries to join my group (previously the Yahoo group, and now perhaps this one) under various IDs. Does Groups.io provide any information about pending members, such as their IP address, that moderators can see? If so, where can I find it? If not, I'd like to request it. 

J


locked Re: Signature LInes

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
GMAIL has it in their settings, but I pretty much have, and will always use a mail client, so I don't know much more than that. The rest will depend on your provider, and or choice of email client. In some cases, both.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ro <recarlton@msn.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Signature LInes



Yes. You go into your email settings to set up a sig line. Both Hotmail and Yahoo have this feature in their settings. Not sure about gmail. I have had my sig line forever, and my font color as well this way.


Ro

with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz & Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.






From: brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signature LInes
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:51:21 +0000

Hello,
Aren't they setting it up within their email client?

----- Original Message -----
From: Feathered Leader <featheredleader@att.net>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:06 am
Subject: [beta] Re: Signature LInes



Duane,

If it's not on the TO DO list, how can some people have one? Some posters in here have a signature line. How are they doing that?

Brenda



Sent from a Braille Sense


Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: Signature LInes

Ro
 

Yes.  You go into your email settings to set up a sig line.  Both Hotmail and Yahoo have this feature in their settings.  Not sure about gmail.  I have had my sig line forever, and my font color as well this way. 


Ro

with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.




> From: brajmund2000@...
> To: beta@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [beta] Signature LInes
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:51:21 +0000
>
> Hello,
> Aren't they setting it up within their email client?
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...>
> To: beta@groups.io
> Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:06 am
> Subject: [beta] Re: Signature LInes
>
> >
> >
> > Duane,
> >
> > If it's not on the TO DO list, how can some people have one? Some posters in here have a signature line. How are they doing that?
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
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locked Re: Is it just me, or is this incorrect?

 

Oh, yes, I see your point! That makes sense.
J

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:
 Hello,
Yes, I get that. But, rather than saying "That group", shouldn't it say "This group?" As you say, I'm on the home page, so I'm here, not there. Sorry if I'm confusing.

----- Original Message -----
From: J_catlady  <j.olivia.catlady@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Is it just me, or is this incorrect?

>
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> You can be on a group's home page without being subscribed. You just won't be able to see anything that is private to the group.
>
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> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> So, I've  tried to view the archive of a list, that is private, and I'm not subscribed to. HOWEVER, the error message I got questioned me. It says: "You are not subscribed to that group." Given the fact that I'm currently on it's home page, shouldn't it be this group? As I said, it could just be me, but this rather than that, in my opinion, makes sense.
>
> Sent from a Braille Sense
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Sent from a Braille Sense





locked Re: Is it just me, or is this incorrect?

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Yes, I get that. But, rather than saying "That group", shouldn't it say "This group?" As you say, I'm on the home page, so I'm here, not there. Sorry if I'm confusing.

----- Original Message -----
From: J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] Is it just me, or is this incorrect?



You can be on a group's home page without being subscribed. You just won't be able to see anything that is private to the group.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
So, I've tried to view the archive of a list, that is private, and I'm not subscribed to. HOWEVER, the error message I got questioned me. It says: "You are not subscribed to that group." Given the fact that I'm currently on it's home page, shouldn't it be this group? As I said, it could just be me, but this rather than that, in my opinion, makes sense.

Sent from a Braille Sense






Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: Group Name In Banner #suggestion

 

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 03:59 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

"The group name is also on the tab itself. Perhaps shortened a bit if you have very many tabs open (as I often do)."

    Mark Bielecki responded,
        "I guess I must have too many tabs opened because all I see on my tab is a blue envelope, no group names"

        Shal Farley responded,             "Heh, I thought I was bad. ;-) Try hovering over one then."

Hi Shal,

I just tried hovering the cursor over the tab that showed only the blue envelope as you suggested, and what you wrote about the Groups.io group name showing when one hovers over the tab only works under certain conditions.  Ift does NOT work if one has a message open, instead of getting the Groups.io group name the subject line of the message is displayed.

Best,

Mark 



locked Re: Is there a search for group archives?

 

It's there in Message view as well.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:
Thanks KR!

I had to be in Thread View apparently!

Brenda






locked Re: Is it just me, or is this incorrect?

 

You can be on a group's home page without being subscribed. You just won't be able to see anything that is private to the group.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:
Hello,
So, I've  tried to view the archive of a list, that is private, and I'm not subscribed to. HOWEVER, the error message I got questioned me. It says: "You are not subscribed to that group." Given the fact that I'm currently on it's home page, shouldn't it be this group? As I said, it could just be me, but this rather than that, in my opinion, makes sense.

Sent from a Braille Sense





locked Re: Lost passwords, no passwords and reset password, oh my

 
Edited

Mark,

I like it if the home page must stay the same. That said:

I understand the desire to accomodate the "password-averse" (as Shal puts it) but it is still strange and cumbersome to me that the home page doesn't have a place for login. You once wrote to me that "to do anything on the site, you need to be logged in." (I think, but am not sure, it was in an offlist email when I was initially having problems with a specific group member.) If that's so, or mostly so, then WHY does the group's home page not have a place to log in?   

My preference would be that the home page has a place for login ("existing Groups.io members"), create password ("new members"), or "continue to the site without logging in (you will not be able to access [yada yada]". 

I wonder what's happening on the "join vs. subscribe" language issue. I think there's still some confusion there. People are going to a group they've already been transferred to (and therefore are already subscribed to) and being asked (at some point - I'm not sure which, since this is no my group and I've only heard about it secondhand at this point, although I've certainly experienced it in the past) - being asked if they want to "join" the group.

I realize this has a low chance of happening, but just thought I'd pipe in as per usual. I like the plan for the login links.

J

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mark,

> I have a proposal about the no password/reset password/lost password
> system. Please let me know what you think:

Sounds perfect to me.

The password-averse get a means to use the site without ever having to create one, the traditionalist can continue using a password if he/she prefers.

> - You get emailed a link. The link doesn't contain your email address in
> it, just a bunch of numbers.

A cryptographic nonce, presumably.

Along with the explanation that the link will expire, the text could say that the link is as valuable as a key or password: it lets whoever has it into your account - so don't give it to anyone else.

> Once you're logged in, you can go into your profile and set/change your
> password if you choose. Or you can just use this system to always log in.

Could there also be a way to repudiate your existing password (if you have one), leaving only email sign-in available for your account (until you set a new password)?

> My hope is that this might reduce confusion.

I may have to re-think my join flow proposal accordingly. Maybe this converges with email address verification, unifying my parts 2 and 3.

-- Shal






locked Re: Signature LInes

Cathie Phillips <cathiep@...>
 

Maybe one person is using her email software to do it. The rest are typing
or copy/pasting theirs in for each email. If there is a way in Groups.io to
set up an automatic one, it will work far better for us to do it that way
than using email software. Also, some folks only want a signature line for
this group and want all the rest of their emails to be signature free.
Thanks for your comments. --cath

-----Original Message-----
From: Rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:51 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signature LInes

Hello,
Aren't they setting it up within their email client?

----- Original Message -----
From: Feathered Leader <featheredleader@att.net>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:06 am
Subject: [beta] Re: Signature LInes



Duane,

If it's not on the TO DO list, how can some people have one? Some posters
in here have a signature line. How are they doing that?

Brenda



Sent from a Braille Sense