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locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

I don't know what's been happening with others, but of the five invitations I've sent out that have been accepted (the rest were part of the mass transfer), two have had difficulty. The first was resolved (it was an issue of a concurrent invitation and membership application). But the second one is still messed up. This person accepted the invitation but didn't at first click on "confirm" so he ended up NC. (I would prefer that the boilerplate invitation emphasize this requirement.) I saw the NC and emailed him, asking him to either log on from one route or another, or find the confirmation email and reply to it. He responded as follows:

"I just went in and changed the email address I want to use and set a password.  These changes were acknowledged, but it won't let me log in, either with my regular email address or the changed one."

The person, by the way, is one the smartest people I know. And he's completely flummoxed, as am I. I did notice, in the activity log, that the system logged his email changes as if he changed from one email address to same one - i.e., nothing changed. And there are two entires to that effect. I wonder if the system invalidated email address #1, which is identical to email address #2, the one he wanted to "change" to, and therefore won't let him log on because it's been invalidated? That's just a wild guess. I can't imagine this person would intentionally "change" from one email address to the same one, twice in a row. But even if he did, I would think he'd still be able to log on.

J


locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

On 1/18/2016 8:45 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I really think a NOTICE needs to go to the owner/mods that the person
has accepted the invite and is awaiting approval.
If that was already checked, look for any place your email service or software may have put the notification (such as a spam folder). If you still can't find the notification you may be having deliverability problems with your email service.
Question - why would someone need to be approved if they are responding
to an invitation? They're approving your invitation to join, so I
would assume you want them to join.

I haven't done invitations in so long that I don't know how they work
on other services. Usually I either have an off-line okay to add them
to a list - or they are asking to join a list.

Diana


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

It's a little a brainstorming poll. It's very usefull to my opinion.


locked Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Benoit Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Le Mardi 19 janvier 2016 21h27, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> a écrit :

If you have your Profile set to prefer HTML posting, all you have to do is select the text that you want to include and click
Reply. The selected text is inserted in the Reply box for you.

Thanks for you answer.

Even if you have your preference set to Plain Text, it will place
the selected text, but obviously not in HTML mode.
:(


locked Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Duane
 

If you have your Profile set to prefer HTML posting, all you have to do is select the text that you want to include and click Reply. The selected text is inserted in the Reply box for you. Even if you have your preference set to Plain Text, it will place the selected text, but obviously not in HTML mode.

Duane


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Duane
 

I think Polls are about as close to real time as they can get. As soon as someone makes a choice, the totals are updated. There's nothing that I know of to prevent you from adding more options. I've done it on a couple.

Duane


locked Re: Language Localisation

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 03:19 am, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com> wrote:

I had to use Yahoo (or maybe Google) since they were the only group service
providers I was familiar with which allowed a French-language group
framework.

So the point of my moan is to plead for a groups.io "à la française" -
aussitôt que possible!
Maybe Mark could search to system like OneSky
https://www.oneskyapp.com/how-it-works/translation-management-system/


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Not interesting?


About poll.Some ideas with this service: http://updwn.co/"See what everybody thinks. Updwn lets you make simple, beautiful, real-time polls."

  • Up or Down (+1 0 or -1)
  • Realtime with possibility to add new option. But no notification of the news options

-- Dreadaxe


locked WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Could you add button to quoting select text with WYSIWYG HTML Editor?

--
Dreadaxe


locked Stylish Blockquotes

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Possibility to change the style of the blockquote the messages of a specific group.


locked Delete selection of messages

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Maybe it's possible to give the possibility to delete lot of messages by batch

--
Dreadaxe


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

Another transferee is having problems this morning. I was surprised to find a membership application from her and had to explain that the transfer process had already added her. This seems to be another case of missing emails. I'm not sure. 

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:19 AM, J_Olivia Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Thanks, Mark.  

It's unclear what happened in this case, since the invitation (and his acceptance of it, or attempt to accept - he did THINK he'd accepted, as he told me he had, which is still the "confusing invitation" issue) - the invitation and his application to join the group (and my approval of that) happened concurrently. I'm not sure which one went through the system first. Last night, the NC appeared next to his hame. I tried to email him some instructions to log in, create a password, etc., and this morning the NC was gone. I'm still not sure what happened.

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark




locked Re: Updates to Trello

 

Yay! 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Beta Integration <beta@groups.io> wrote:
[Beta] New card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was added to list "Member Management".


[Beta] The description of card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was changed to:

Both for security for the user (they can see if someone else is logging into their account), and also to track potential trolls.


[Beta] The yellow label "Member Management" was added to the card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times.".



locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was added to list "Member Management".


[Beta] The description of card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was changed to:

Both for security for the user (they can see if someone else is logging into their account), and also to track potential trolls.


[Beta] The yellow label "Member Management" was added to the card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times.".


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

Thanks, Mark.  

It's unclear what happened in this case, since the invitation (and his acceptance of it, or attempt to accept - he did THINK he'd accepted, as he told me he had, which is still the "confusing invitation" issue) - the invitation and his application to join the group (and my approval of that) happened concurrently. I'm not sure which one went through the system first. Last night, the NC appeared next to his hame. I tried to email him some instructions to log in, create a password, etc., and this morning the NC was gone. I'm still not sure what happened.

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark



locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Make the invite system more clever" was added to list "Invitations".


[Beta] The pink label "Invitations" was added to the card "Make the invite system more clever".


[Beta] The description of card "Make the invite system more clever" was changed to:

I suppose the system could be a touch more clever, and if a user is attempting to use either of those methods, check to see if there's an outstanding invite for that user and automatically approve them. And conversely, at the time a moderator is sending invitations the system could check to see if that user is already pending approval, and automatically approve them. This action could be noted in the Invitation results page (Pending membership approved, rather than Invitation sent).


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?

Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.
J

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

Successfully sending an invitation will take you to a new page with a summary. In my case, it said

Invite Summary
Invites Processed: 1
Invites Sent: 1

If you see anything else, there was a problem with the information you entered.

Any time an invitation is no longer needed, you can select the check box to the left of it, then go to the Actions box at the bottom of the page and choose Cancel/Remove Invite.

Duane





locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Duane
 

Successfully sending an invitation will take you to a new page with a summary. In my case, it said

Invite Summary
Invites Processed: 1
Invites Sent: 1

If you see anything else, there was a problem with the information you entered.

Any time an invitation is no longer needed, you can select the check box to the left of it, then go to the Actions box at the bottom of the page and choose Cancel/Remove Invite.

Duane


locked Re: HTML digest mockups

Maria
 

forgot to add:

10 - the attachments: hopefully if they are images they will be seen as thumbnails (as in digest #1?) so that a digest for an image heavy group could give the reader of glimpse of what is on the new messages.