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locked member using yahoo mail can't post or receive Groups.io msgs since Monday

 

I got the following email from a member who uses yahoo mail:

"Suddenly (well, since Monday), I can't get or send messages.  Is anyone else having a problem?  I get an error message:  "No internet connection," which is not true."

She sent that to me in an email, so obviously she has an internet connection.

I've sent a message to my group asking anyone else having posting problems to contact me offlist (but obviously, if they're not receiving messages either, like the member above, they won't get that message).

Is Groups.io having known issues with yahoo mail recently? (I realize that's a bit redundant, since there are always problems with yahoo mail…)

J



locked Re: transferring my group to io

 

Terry,

Didn't work. Clicked on 'Joined' and yahoo keeps trying to reload the 31-60 group.
Go back to the Manage Members list then try Ctrl+F5 to re-sync your browser with Yahoo's servers. Wait for the page to fully load. Don't attempted to scroll down, just click Joined once, and wait for the page to fully load. If that brings the oldest member to the top click Joined again, and again wait for it to fully load.

How long to wait? Until the browser indicates that it is done. How long might that take? Hard to say, it depends on many factors, including your internet connection, your browser, and your computer.

If that doesn't work, try the rest of the browser ritual.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/GroupManagersForum/conversations/messages/54042

-- Shal


locked Re: transferring my group to io

Terry S
 

Didn't work.  Clicked on 'Joined' and yahoo keeps trying to reload the 31-60 group.  Stopped the reload, but then my having clicked on 'Joined' was also apparently canceled.  Clicking on it again started the reload again. 

Terry S
--
"Do the right thing at the right time for the right reason with the right person: act appropriately and all the rest will fall into line." - Matthew Scudder



On 1/27/2016 10:43 PM, J_catlady wrote:
Click on the far right column with heading "joined." Click on it again. Presto chango! transfer@groups.io will be the top member in that column. 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Terry S <apacapacas@...> wrote:
So now transfer@groups.io is a member of the group.  But Yahoo won't a) search for it in the member list or b) scroll down to it (it bombs on loading members 31 to 60).  So I can't make it a moderator, so it can't transfer the members.

So now what?

I've tried using the invite mechanism in io, but not all my 828 members got invitations.  So now what do I do?

Wait for Yahoo to straighten itself out?

Send the invitations again?

Any other ideas?

Terry S
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"I never feel sorry about what happened yesterday nor do I worry about what might happen tomorrow."
The Contented Little Pussycat (Frances Ruth Keller)

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locked Re: transferring my group to io

 
Edited

Click on the far right column with heading "joined." Click on it again. Presto chango! transfer@groups.io will be the top member in the list. 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Terry S <apacapacas@...> wrote:
So now transfer@groups.io is a member of the group.  But Yahoo won't a) search for it in the member list or b) scroll down to it (it bombs on loading members 31 to 60).  So I can't make it a moderator, so it can't transfer the members.

So now what?

I've tried using the invite mechanism in io, but not all my 828 members got invitations.  So now what do I do?

Wait for Yahoo to straighten itself out?

Send the invitations again?

Any other ideas?

Terry S
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--
"I never feel sorry about what happened yesterday nor do I worry about what might happen tomorrow."
The Contented Little Pussycat (Frances Ruth Keller)


locked Site Updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site since Friday:

  • CHANGE: If someone clicks an expired login link, but they're already logged in, we redirect them to the home page and display a message telling them that they're logged in.
  • CHANGE: Added '... and can only be used once.' to the login link email.
  • BUGFIX: We didn't handle question marks correctly in directory or file names in the Files section.
  • BUGFIX: When editing a pending message that's HTML, not UTF-8 encoded, and contains HTML entities like smart quotes, the entities were not converted back properly. We now change the message encoding to UTF-8.
  • BUGFIX: When sending a message to a member, Gmail will no longer display phishing warnings.
  • NEW: Multi select multiple choice field for database tables.
  • NEW: You can select a color for each column in a database table.
  • CHANGE: Decreased the width of selects when adding rows in a database.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed IE11 on Windows 7 login issue with Email login link.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed database permissions issue.
  • CHANGE: For Emailed Login Links, ignore a list of 'link preview crawlers' that would prematurely expire the login link.

Cheers, Mark


locked transferring my group to io

Terry S
 

So now transfer@groups.io is a member of the group. But Yahoo won't a) search for it in the member list or b) scroll down to it (it bombs on loading members 31 to 60). So I can't make it a moderator, so it can't transfer the members.

So now what?

I've tried using the invite mechanism in io, but not all my 828 members got invitations. So now what do I do?

Wait for Yahoo to straighten itself out?

Send the invitations again?

Any other ideas?

Terry S
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locked Re: HTML digests

 

Duane,

If a group is set to Plain Text Only (also No Attachments on a couple),
would the HTML Digest be any different than the one we have now?
Yes.

As I understand it the primary motivation for making an HTML digest is to enable the list of topics at the top to be formatted as links to the start of each thread within the digest. Likewise, one can then have "back to top" as one of the per-message links. Such links cannot be made in plain text.

It also makes other per-message functions less obtrusive (a short text rather than a long ugly URL).

The formatting of the message content (HTML within the original message bodies) I think should be stripped even when the digest structure is implemented in HTML. Otherwise the content of the digest could become very difficult to read.

Maybe have the HTML Digest be an option set by moderators.
I don't think there's any need for moderator control of that at the group level. But I wouldn't object to the moderator being able to adjust a member's control, through their Membership page, just as the moderator can adjust a member's other subscription settings.

-- Shal


locked Re: transferring my group from Yahoo

Steph Mathews <smathews@...>
 

Hi Terry,
You have to add that email address to your group, set it to no mail, set it as a moderator giving it permission to do things with your members section of your group and other things, then send an email to support@groups.io letting them know the name of your yahoo group you added the transfer address too as well as the name of the group you're trying to get them transferred too that is on Groups.io. Then you just got to wait till the transfer is completed.

I hope that this helps, Steph

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From: "Terry S" <apacapacas@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:46 AM
To: <beta@groups.io>
Subject: [beta] transferring my group from Yahoo

Okay - I'm stumped. I invited everyone in my yahoo group to join the groups.io group - but apparently most of them didn't get the invitation. So now I want to try the 'easy transfer' method.

I'm ready to transfer my group to io, but can't see how to do it. I invited transfer@groups.io to join my group - but how does transfer@groups.io actually join? I can't add the address - Yahoo won't let me. So now what? (feeling rather dumb for not having followed this thread from the beginning.)

Terry S
--
"Do the right thing at the right time for the right reason with the right person: act appropriately and all the rest will fall into line." - Matthew Scudder



locked Re: transferring my group from Yahoo

Terry S
 

Duane - Thanks!

Terry S
--
"Do the right thing at the right time for the right reason with the right person: act appropriately and all the rest will fall into line." - Matthew Scudder

On 1/27/2016 11:44 AM, Duane wrote:
This should help:
https://groups.io/static/yahootransfer

Duane





locked Re: transferring my group from Yahoo

Duane
 


locked transferring my group from Yahoo

Terry S
 

Okay - I'm stumped. I invited everyone in my yahoo group to join the groups.io group - but apparently most of them didn't get the invitation. So now I want to try the 'easy transfer' method.

I'm ready to transfer my group to io, but can't see how to do it. I invited transfer@groups.io to join my group - but how does transfer@groups.io actually join? I can't add the address - Yahoo won't let me. So now what? (feeling rather dumb for not having followed this thread from the beginning.)

Terry S
--
"Do the right thing at the right time for the right reason with the right person: act appropriately and all the rest will fall into line." - Matthew Scudder


locked Re: HTML digests

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

Duane

Good question,
But what of bounce strip ?
 

Vickie

 










From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:17 PM
Subject: [beta] Re: HTML digests

Vickie's comment made me think of something.  If a group is set to Plain Text Only (also No Attachments on a couple), would the HTML Digest be any different than the one we have now?

Maybe have the HTML Digest be an option set by moderators.  If enabled, then all members would be able to switch back and forth.

I'd go with Fancy and Plain as the choices.

Duane








locked Re: HTML digests

Duane
 

Vickie's comment made me think of something. If a group is set to Plain Text Only (also No Attachments on a couple), would the HTML Digest be any different than the one we have now?

Maybe have the HTML Digest be an option set by moderators. If enabled, then all members would be able to switch back and forth.

I'd go with Fancy and Plain as the choices.

Duane


locked Re: post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

 

I vote yes, too.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:00 PM, vickie via Groups.io <vickie_00@...> wrote:
 I have thought about adding a status.groups.io page that would list domains and current stats about delivery to them. Would that be useful? I'd need help deciding which stats to report.


I   feel that would be very useful Mark.  My vote is Yes.   

Vickie

 







To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not sure what's going on with a 10-minute delay just now in a post making it to email. I'd heard this complaint from some of my members in the past but only now experienced it myself. I hope this is not a harbinger of Yahoo-like things to come!
Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of the email services. If they are having issues, we can't deliver the messages. This afternoon, a few domains were having problems accepting emails. bellsouth.net and a couple others. I've seen gmail get backed up before, although I don't know if they were today. That did not affect delivery of other emails.

You can always check your email delivery history to see if we're having problems delivering email to you. Note that it can take up to 2 minutes for us to timeout trying to deliver an email. So if you hit post from the website, and then immediately check your email delivery history, if your email service is slow or having problems, it could take up to 2 minutes for that to show up.

I have thought about adding a status.groups.io page that would list domains and current stats about delivery to them. Would that be useful? I'd need help deciding which stats to report.

Thanks,
Mark





locked Re: post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

Judy F.
 

I think it was be great.  By doing that, we can prove that it’s our ISP and not Groups.io .  Most ISP’s don’t want to admit they are the ones having problems.

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:30 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

 

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what's going on with a 10-minute delay just now in a post making it to email. I'd heard this complaint from some of my members in the past but only now experienced it myself. I hope this is not a harbinger of Yahoo-like things to come!

Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of the email services. If they are having issues, we can't deliver the messages. This afternoon, a few domains were having problems accepting emails. bellsouth.net and a couple others. I've seen gmail get backed up before, although I don't know if they were today. That did not affect delivery of other emails.

 

You can always check your email delivery history to see if we're having problems delivering email to you. Note that it can take up to 2 minutes for us to timeout trying to deliver an email. So if you hit post from the website, and then immediately check your email delivery history, if your email service is slow or having problems, it could take up to 2 minutes for that to show up.

 

I have thought about adding a status.groups.io page that would list domains and current stats about delivery to them. Would that be useful? I'd need help deciding which stats to report.

 

Thanks,

Mark


locked Re: HTML digests

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

Mark

I think a link to switch is fine.. A switch back also ?

and  if you decide on link option  would the access to  switch  be given only to moderators ?
 I prefer  only moderators . I don't want my members  switching or even seeing the switch method..

Thank you for all that you do  to make the experience with , io groups  the best it can be..
 

Vickie

 










From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:20 PM
Subject: [beta] HTML digests

Hi all,

HTML digests are about ready. There are a couple of things I'd like your feedback on before I roll them out:

- As much as I hate adding additional options, I think probably adding another option to the Email Delivery section of a subscription to select HTML digests is the way to go (in other words you can select between the current, plain text digest or the new HTML digest).

- What should I call these? Doesn't Yahoo refer to them as full-featured digests or some such? I'm not particularly fond of 'HTML Digest' because I don't think that has much meaning to most people.

- I think once these are rolled out and tested, I'll add a line at the top of the plain text digests announcing the new type of digest with a link to switch.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark




locked Re: HTML digests

 

Mark,

- As much as I hate adding additional options, I think probably
adding another option to the Email Delivery section of a subscription
to select HTML digests is the way to go (in other words you can
select between the current, plain text digest or the new HTML digest).
I'd want that option.

Yahoo removed the option from the web pages during the Neo redesign, but it lingers (and works) as an undocumented email command.

- What should I call these? Doesn't Yahoo refer to them as
full-featured digests or some such?
Yes, Fully Featured versus Traditional. You could go with Active, Linked, Formatted, or Fancy versus Plain.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shalf/8750278741/in/album-72157594538412310/

-- Shal


locked Re: post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

 I have thought about adding a status.groups.io page that would list domains and current stats about delivery to them. Would that be useful? I'd need help deciding which stats to report.


I   feel that would be very useful Mark.  My vote is Yes.   

Vickie

 








markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not sure what's going on with a 10-minute delay just now in a post making it to email. I'd heard this complaint from some of my members in the past but only now experienced it myself. I hope this is not a harbinger of Yahoo-like things to come!
Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of the email services. If they are having issues, we can't deliver the messages. This afternoon, a few domains were having problems accepting emails. bellsouth.net and a couple others. I've seen gmail get backed up before, although I don't know if they were today. That did not affect delivery of other emails.

You can always check your email delivery history to see if we're having problems delivering email to you. Note that it can take up to 2 minutes for us to timeout trying to deliver an email. So if you hit post from the website, and then immediately check your email delivery history, if your email service is slow or having problems, it could take up to 2 minutes for that to show up.

I have thought about adding a status.groups.io page that would list domains and current stats about delivery to them. Would that be useful? I'd need help deciding which stats to report.

Thanks,
Mark




locked Re: post appearing on site took 10 minutes to come thru in email

 

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what's going on with a 10-minute delay just now in a post making it to email. I'd heard this complaint from some of my members in the past but only now experienced it myself. I hope this is not a harbinger of Yahoo-like things to come!

Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of the email services. If they are having issues, we can't deliver the messages. This afternoon, a few domains were having problems accepting emails. bellsouth.net and a couple others. I've seen gmail get backed up before, although I don't know if they were today. That did not affect delivery of other emails.

You can always check your email delivery history to see if we're having problems delivering email to you. Note that it can take up to 2 minutes for us to timeout trying to deliver an email. So if you hit post from the website, and then immediately check your email delivery history, if your email service is slow or having problems, it could take up to 2 minutes for that to show up.

I have thought about adding a status.groups.io page that would list domains and current stats about delivery to them. Would that be useful? I'd need help deciding which stats to report.

Thanks,
Mark


locked HTML digests

 

Hi all,

HTML digests are about ready. There are a couple of things I'd like your feedback on before I roll them out:

- As much as I hate adding additional options, I think probably adding another option to the Email Delivery section of a subscription to select HTML digests is the way to go (in other words you can select between the current, plain text digest or the new HTML digest).

- What should I call these? Doesn't Yahoo refer to them as full-featured digests or some such? I'm not particularly fond of 'HTML Digest' because I don't think that has much meaning to most people.

- I think once these are rolled out and tested, I'll add a line at the top of the plain text digests announcing the new type of digest with a link to switch.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark