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locked Re: Invite flow

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:01 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Great. If I could get my grubby little hands into this, I would make it clear that simply hitting "reply" causes them to join the group, and that any actual response they send won't be received. Or something like that. Just in case someone sends a customized invitation with a message that a potential member is tempted to respond to...

I have been trying to figure out how to word such a notice. Here's the relevant template code for the invite email. Suggestions for how to word it?
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To accept the invitation, please reply to this email or click on the following link:

https://{{.Domain}}/g/{{.Group.Name}}/invite/{{.Invite.Cookie}}/{{.Invite.ID}}

If you are not interested, or if {{.Invite.Email}} is not your email address, please ignore this email.
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Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: text re "join group," "apply for membership in this group," "subscribe to this group" - redux

 

I'll look at it when I get home, in a couple of hours. I would love to weigh in on this whole thing. Thanks for the opportunity!
J

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

I'm working on revamping the join flow now. I'm going by Shal's proposal, outlined in 3 messages starting at 

Nobody responded to his messages. Do you have any feedback on his proposal?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:41 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I agree. (Esp the 'busy little beaver ' part.;) I think if there are trip hazards at the front door, at least warn your guests about them until the construction work is over...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
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locked Re: text re "join group," "apply for membership in this group," "subscribe to this group" - redux

 

I'm working on revamping the join flow now. I'm going by Shal's proposal, outlined in 3 messages starting at 

Nobody responded to his messages. Do you have any feedback on his proposal?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:41 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I agree. (Esp the 'busy little beaver ' part.;) I think if there are trip hazards at the front door, at least warn your guests about them until the construction work is over...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
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> I suspect some of this is because Mark has been a busy little beaver making a lot of changes lately and not everything has been propagated to all of the pages.  If it were me, I'd include the information needed in the email with the Home page link, at least for the time being.
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locked Re: "edit profile, new photo" won't change photo, says it's changed #bug

 

Hmm, I just checked it and it worked for me, using Chrome. What browser are you using? Does doing a complete refresh (hold down the shift key while hitting the refresh button) fix it?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I've tried three times to change my photo in one of my profiles. Each time, I choose the photo, click on "upload photo," and get the message "your changes have been saved," but the original photo continues to appear. The third time I even tried additionally clicking on "update profile" at the bottom, but still no-go



locked Re: "message does not exist" and "could not be sent" #bug

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:02 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

This may have to do with the recent change about taking you to a different screen after sending a message. For the past couple of messages I've replied to in a (relatively) new group, I've gotten (1) a message to the effect "that message does not exist, it could have been deleted" (the exact words are not in front of me) and then (2) a second message "could not be sent." Yet when I go into the message view, both messages exist (including the one I sent) and there is no gap in message numbers.


Oof. Sorry about that. Should be fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked "edit profile, new photo" won't change photo, says it's changed #bug

 

I've tried three times to change my photo in one of my profiles. Each time, I choose the photo, click on "upload photo," and get the message "your changes have been saved," but the original photo continues to appear. The third time I even tried additionally clicking on "update profile" at the bottom, but still no-go


locked Re: "always want copies of my own messages" has flipped #bug

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hello, I'm still receiving copies of my own messages and that box has never been unchecked. So maybe it's just a bug per your account.
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On Jan 20, 2016, at 3:14 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I have two accounts, one for my cat-related activities and one for my neighborhood-related activities. In account #1 I have the setting for receiving copies of my own messages unchecked; yet recently, I started receiving copies of all my messages. In account #2 I have the setting checked (I want the copies), yet I am NOT receiving copies of my own messages. I think this accidentally got flipped recently.

J



locked "always want copies of my own messages" has flipped #bug

 

I have two accounts, one for my cat-related activities and one for my neighborhood-related activities. In account #1 I have the setting for receiving copies of my own messages unchecked; yet recently, I started receiving copies of all my messages. In account #2 I have the setting checked (I want the copies), yet I am NOT receiving copies of my own messages. I think this accidentally got flipped recently.

J


locked "message does not exist" and "could not be sent" #bug

 

This may have to do with the recent change about taking you to a different screen after sending a message. For the past couple of messages I've replied to in a (relatively) new group, I've gotten (1) a message to the effect "that message does not exist, it could have been deleted" (the exact words are not in front of me) and then (2) a second message "could not be sent." Yet when I go into the message view, both messages exist (including the one I sent) and there is no gap in message numbers.

J


locked Re: HTML digest mockups

Frances
 

I like number 1 best. The topics were easy to read.

I don't like the light grey links though - hard to read, especially for anyone with vision problems. 

I think the reminder to reply from a specific email should be clearer. It is too light and gets lost above the grey bar.

Frances



locked Re: setting to disallow 'no email' and require at least 'special announcements' #suggestion

 

If it's made an optional setting, then every group owner can decide this for themselves. If it's not made an option, we will get around it anyway by manually resetting the no-email members. So at this point it's simply a convenience issue for mods who want the option.

J


locked Re: setting to disallow 'no email' and require at least 'special announcements' #suggestion

Duane
 

A Special Announcement is sent immediately. I've only done it as a test on this site, but that's how it worked.

Part of the "problem" is that, as previously discussed, some folks want NO MAIL for ANY reason, not even special announcements. They may be on a limited bandwidth connection, using their office computer to read the group and can't get emails, or something else. I used to agree that having Special Announcements as a minimum would be nice, but after reading the justifications for not wanting that, I've changed my mind and feel that the wishes of the members should be honored. Having said that, I've only sent 2 Special Announcements in the last 10 years (other than the test), both on Yahoo, one of which let folks know that I was leaving because of Y's shenanigans.

Duane


locked Re: text re "join group," "apply for membership in this group," "subscribe to this group" - redux

 

I agree. (Esp the 'busy little beaver ' part.;) I think if there are trip hazards at the front door, at least warn your guests about them until the construction work is over...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I suspect some of this is because Mark has been a busy little beaver making a lot of changes lately and not everything has been propagated to all of the pages. If it were me, I'd include the information needed in the email with the Home page link, at least for the time being.

Duane





locked Re: text re "join group," "apply for membership in this group," "subscribe to this group" - redux

Duane
 

I suspect some of this is because Mark has been a busy little beaver making a lot of changes lately and not everything has been propagated to all of the pages. If it were me, I'd include the information needed in the email with the Home page link, at least for the time being.

Duane


locked text re "join group," "apply for membership in this group," "subscribe to this group" - redux

 

I've created a new group and have begun the process of sending out the group's home page to interest people in joining. I'm again running up against the "join" vs. "apply for membership" vs. "subscribe" issue on the group's home page, and the resulting confusion.

To summarize: on a group's home page, a non-member sees those three options ("join" at the top left, "apply" at the bottom, and the "subscribe" option at the very bottom). Because the "join" and "apply" options stick out more, some people are selecting one of them and - still, or again - being required to create a password in the page that comes up. It's not clear to them that they can just click on "subscribe" at the bottom, and won't need to create one.

The invite page now makes clear to people that they can subscribe without creating a password. I would like a group's home page to make that clear as well.

It seems that we/you are still, or again, distinguishing semantically between "join" and "subscribe," an issue that came up a long time ago and I think was never completely resolved.

I don't care about the semantics, and whether or not "join" and "subscribe" are the same thing, and I think trying to distinguish their meanings in a way that's clear to, and pleases, everyone may be futile. But I think that a group's home page, and/or the subsequent page(s) after clicking on "join" or "apply", should let prospective members know that they DON'T have to create a password to participate.

Otherwise, I'm getting people not wanting to join, or I'm having to clarify this to them after the fact, or I'm losing them without even knowing it because they just don't want to bother.

Thanks.

J


locked Re: Posting & being returned to Posting

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

I've noticed now that I can post on the site all the time, that after I send a post, it returns us to another blank posting page instead of taking us back to either the message we replied to, or the message list in general.

I've fixed it. When replying to a message on the website, you're taken back to the page you were on. And when posting a new message on the website, you're sent to the group archives.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: HTML digest mockups

 

Since I get digests from the group I know what I like.  The link in Mark's message identified as digest 2 is the one that I prefer.  I do like the blue in digest 1 because it does pick up the outline color of the groups.io logo.  But, I find the digest 2 example easier to read.


Donna


locked Re: setting to disallow 'no email' and require at least 'special announcements' #suggestion

Ro
 

yes!!!  that is needed.   I have disallowed no email too.  While my group is small, its still a pain to have to moniter this. 


Ro

with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.




> From: j.olivia.catlady@...
> Subject: [beta] setting to disallow 'no email' and require at least 'special announcements' #wishlist
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:41:20 -0800
> To: beta@groups.io
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> I've decided to disallow 'no email' as a subscription option and require as a minimum 'special announcements' so that I'll be able to reach everyone (or at least, have a better chance of reaching everyone) when I really need to. I've had to manually change members' subscription options who choose 'no email.' I personally know a couple of other moderators who also now require this minimum. I woul love a setting 'disallow no-email' (yes or no). That would effectively set the bar at 'special announcements' or 'digest.' BTW, do digest members receive special announcements as part of the digest it as a separate message? I would prefer the latter. I don't know or remember (or care;) how Yahoo did that.
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locked setting to disallow 'no email' and require at least 'special announcements' #suggestion

 
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I've decided to disallow 'no email' as a subscription option and require as a minimum 'special announcements' so that I'll be able to reach everyone (or at least, have a better chance of reaching everyone) when I really need to. I've had to manually change members' subscription options who choose 'no email.' I personally know a couple of other moderators who also now require this minimum. I would love a setting 'disallow no-email' (yes or no). That would effectively set the bar at 'special announcements' or 'digest.' BTW, do digest members receive special announcements as part of the digest or as a separate message? I would prefer the latter. I don't know or remember (or care;) how Yahoo did that.
J

Sent from my iPhone


locked Re: Hashtag selection #suggestion

 

I second that. I would also change, or simply remove, the words 'there are no hashtags' when there are (or may be) dozens of hashtags, just not any yet used in s message. The wording is misleading and reads as an error.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:12 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd like to see a drop down of available hashtags, probably to the right of the Subject box, when composing a post online. This would be especially useful on groups that require a hashtag on posts. A "printable" list of them would also be nice for those that use mostly email.

Thanks,
Duane