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moderated Re: Please allow non-premium groups to "confirm" new members #suggestion

Duane
 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:51 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
if the group requires a response to a questionnaire and receives a response, that should be sufficient to confirm the member.
This would be my preference for a change to the system.

Duane


moderated Re: Please allow non-premium groups to "confirm" new members #suggestion

 

In fact, maybe this has been discussed before but it seems that in a restricted basic group, if the group requires a response to a questionnaire and receives a response, that should be sufficient to confirm the member. Maybe the problem is that the system doesn't keep track of whether there's a questionnaire in any given group? But it seems like overkill and requiring too much of people to both confirm and return a questionnaire, via two separate emails. Once we approve someone, we know they're legitimate and having to go around in circles with the NC situation (resend it, ask people to check their spam folders, explain why they need to do it, and in some cases, even just trying to reach them) is just an enormous PITA when they've already basically told us their name, rank, and serial no. 


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:46 AM J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Premium restricted groups have a "confirm" button for new members who have applied by email and have not found and clicked on the confirmation email. But basic groups do not.

My block group, which is a basic group, is organizing for Covid-19 and is generating a lot of new members, some of whom have not confirmed and seem unable to. I realized this morning that we could do an end run around this issue by simply sending an invitation to anyone who has not confirmed.

Therefore, basic groups de facto have the ability to confirm new subs via this workaround. I am requesting that basic groups be given that permission/ability explicitly, via a "confirm member" button, rather than having to do the workaround. We can do it anyway. Please just make it easier.

Thanks.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated NC members receiving group guidelines #bug

 

My understanding is that NC members can't receive or send group messages until they are confirmed, even if their membership has been approved. Yet according to the logs, NC approved members are receiving the group guidelines. It is impossible to tell whether they are also receiving the welcome message, since the email delivery history shows only the last delivery. But if they are receiving either or both of these, it will lead them to think they're in the group when they're actually not. So if they are intentionally being sent the GG and/or welcome message, I think that should be changed. If they are unintentionally being sent these, then that's a bug. 

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moderated Please allow non-premium groups to "confirm" new members #suggestion

 

Premium restricted groups have a "confirm" button for new members who have applied by email and have not found and clicked on the confirmation email. But basic groups do not.

My block group, which is a basic group, is organizing for Covid-19 and is generating a lot of new members, some of whom have not confirmed and seem unable to. I realized this morning that we could do an end run around this issue by simply sending an invitation to anyone who has not confirmed.

Therefore, basic groups de facto have the ability to confirm new subs via this workaround. I am requesting that basic groups be given that permission/ability explicitly, via a "confirm member" button, rather than having to do the workaround. We can do it anyway. Please just make it easier.

Thanks.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Send Message" button in member-edit dialog causes changes to be lost #suggestion

Bob Morley
 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:34 AM, Jim Avera wrote:
If a group Member is clicked and their settings changed (for example, changing their role to Moderator and checking/unchecking various options), then:

If the "Send Message" button at the bottom is clicked instead of "Save", the changes are lost.

Possible solutions:
   Change the "Send Message" button to "Save Changes and Send Message" (would be very useful!)
   Prompt the user to Save or Discard first, if "Send Message" is clicked
   Disable all buttons other than "Save" and "Discard" as soon as any setting is changed
   If "Send Message" is clicked, return to the member-edit dialog afterwards (with the state as it was)
The request is written up as a specific requirement but, in reality, this is a universal issue. A more general way to summarize this request is as follows:

If I edit "xxx" and do not "Save" but do "something else", give me a prompt to query me if I want to leave before saving.... I do realize that it could be difficult to catch all of the "something else" possibilities, but it would be nice to try.

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Gerald


moderated Re: Extra Storage for Sale? #suggestion

Bill Hazel
 

This is in response to the GMF thread topic  Pricing Too High, Storage Too Low, for groups.io 
I am a very small operator with a couple small free groups (33 and 15 members) and can't afford $20 ... at least not per month.
I don't need a bunch of storage (26 MB on one and 47 MB on the other) but I hate to be a freeloader.
Might I suggest another level - Friend - (call it anything you want, just a suggestion) 2 GB for $2/month.
I'd sign up for it today.

Bill


moderated File Search within Folder #suggestion

Beth Weld
 

It would be extremely useful to be able to be able to limit a search in the files section to a specific folder. We have files segregated within topics and then within years, and when I do a search it brings back files from many folders.  

Also - there is an uploaded date field that looks like it can be used to sort the results - but it doesn't sort in ascending or descending order by that date.  Even this sort feature would help when searching in the files section.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Messages contain CC:group even with ReplyTo=sender and "Remove other options" #bug

Jim Avera
 

If "Reply to" in Group settings is set to "sender", and "Remove Other Reply Options" is checked,
messages still contain a CC: header pointing to the group post address.   This permits users to reply to the group through email, but not on the web.  This is almost certainly not what the owner intended.  I'm guessing this is a #bug.

Additional suggestion: Provide a way to omit the CC: header but still provide "reply to group" links at the bottom of the email (and on the web).  That way, we can avoid spam from people who wrongly "reply to all" (as many are wont to do by habit), but still allow replying to the group when really necessary.

As always, thanks for the great system.


moderated "Send Message" button in member-edit dialog causes changes to be lost #suggestion

Jim Avera
 

If a group Member is clicked and their settings changed (for example, changing their role to Moderator and checking/unchecking various options), then:

If the "Send Message" button at the bottom is clicked instead of "Save", the changes are lost.

Possible solutions:
   Change the "Send Message" button to "Save Changes and Send Message" (would be very useful!)
   Prompt the user to Save or Discard first, if "Send Message" is clicked
   Disable all buttons other than "Save" and "Discard" as soon as any setting is changed
   If "Send Message" is clicked, return to the member-edit dialog afterwards (with the state as it was)


moderated Re: Member list does not clear prior search term #bug

Duane
 

This is a duplicate of an earlier report with more details, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/23940

Duane


moderated Member list does not clear prior search term #bug

 

If you delete your search term in the member list, making it blank, and hit Search again in order to go back to the complete member list, the search is not cleared and you still see the prior search results. To see the complete member list again, you have to out of and back into the member list.
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moderated Re: Mark in the time of COVID-19 #misc

Anita L
 

Mark so sorry your child has the flu. Hope your child recovers soon.
Be safe with this corona virus going around. Very scary.
 
Wish you the best.
 
Anita


moderated Re: Mark in the time of COVID-19 #misc

PurplePenny
 

Hopefully not even flu, but just a cold.

Stay safe everyone,
Penny


moderated Re: Another instance of "thread" Instead of "topic" (unfollowing) #bug

 

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 8:28 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
The confirmation page for unfollowing a topic asks "unfollow this thread?" but should be "topic"

Fixed!

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Another instance of "thread" Instead of "topic" (unfollowing) #bug

 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:07 PM, ro-esp wrote:
"unfollow thread" is the technically correct terminology
It's not here, because a decision was made to use "topic" instead of "thread" everywhere. All instances of "thread" were supposed to be changed to "topic." Every so often a missed one pops up. This is just one of those. Just a global terminology decision and a minor oversight. No big deal.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Another instance of "thread" Instead of "topic" (unfollowing) #bug

ro-esp
 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 04:28 AM, J_Catlady wrote:


The confirmation page for unfollowing a topic asks "unfollow this thread?" but
should be "topic"
I don't think so. It's perfectly possible that in due time, there's more than one thread about the same topic, or at least with the same subject-line.

"unfollow thread" is the technically correct terminology

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


moderated Re: #suggestion Allow owners more control over the Direct-Add initial email #suggestion

John Pearce
 

I don't think that's a bug.  It appears to me that there is no "active" ckeckbox because it is always active.  The control you have here is if you create a direct add notice it's added to the text.  If you delete it or don't have one, the canned notice is sent without the additional text.  I have a test member that I keep on special only just to test with.  I removed it from the group then added it back direct add.  It added the text (which I had never had before).  A direct add notice does not show as active and there is not check box either.  GIO adds the text if it's there and doesn't if one is not but the notice is still sent.

John


moderated Re: Changing display name is logged as "changed moderator permissions" #bug

 

Slight correction: both things are logged - "changed display name" and "changed moderator permissions" - even when only the display name has been changed.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 7:33 AM J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I recall reporting this bug, or something like it (there have been a lot of bugs related to the logging of changing display names), in the past but am not sure. The bug is that if a moderator changes a display name, it is logged in the group activity log as "changed moderator permissions" (even if the member is not a moderator in the first place).
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Changing display name is logged as "changed moderator permissions" #bug

 

I recall reporting this bug, or something like it (there have been a lot of bugs related to the logging of changing display names), in the past but am not sure. The bug is that if a moderator changes a display name, it is logged in the group activity log as "changed moderator permissions" (even if the member is not a moderator in the first place).
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Profile photo #bug

Duane
 

Someone on GMF reported that they couldn't delete their photo in the profile for a group.  I did some checking this morning and realized that the "Remove file" button doesn't work on the Profile Photo.  For now, the work around is to upload a blank file.

Thanks,
Duane