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locked Re: question about owner emails received by moderators

 

Mark,

The group owner, or owner(s), would receive all the emails. I'm talking about the setting that the group owner assigns to any given moderator, or moderators. It's not necessarily the case that I want all moderators to see messages from pending members.

J


locked Re: question about owner emails received by moderators

 

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:10 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I tested this and the answer is that "subscribers" in this context includes pending members. I would prefer it to include only messages from approved members. Is this something you would consider, Mark? What are the pros and cons?

How would a pending member contact you then? The group notice that is sent when someone subscribes to a moderated group is sent as coming from the +owner address, to allow for the pending member to answer questions posed in the notice.

Mark


locked Re: Auto Signature

 

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:30 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Or, alternatively, put the "use signature" box above the input window. The difficult thing about this for the user seems to be the order in which they're asked for data. 

You're absolutely right. I've re-ordered the checkbox and signature.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: question about owner emails received by moderators

 

I tested this and the answer is that "subscribers" in this context includes pending members. I would prefer it to include only messages from approved members. Is this something you would consider, Mark? What are the pros and cons?

J


locked Re: Auto Signature

 

Or, alternatively, put the "use signature" box above the input window. The difficult thing about this for the user seems to be the order in which they're asked for data. They're asked for the signature first, but they can't actually enter that UNTIL they click the box below it. Usually you would enter data sequentially. No biggie, but I think eliminating the gray-out or reversing the order would make things a bit easier.

J


locked Re: Auto Signature

 

I like it too, but would prefer it if the window were not grayed out until clicking on the "use signature" box. It seems counterintuitive and had me thinking (but not for long) that there was a bug.

Why gray it out at all? Let users enter the signature and THEN click on "use signature" (or not).

J


locked Re: Auto Signature

Me and BobbieSue <sylvester2007dc@...>
 

Thank You!!!!!!  As you can tell, I love this feature!!!!!!!


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Diane

Administrator to:

GammillCousins

APQSLongarmCousins

SecondCousins@APQSLongarmCousins

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locked New Topic Drafts

Me and BobbieSue <sylvester2007dc@...>
 

When composing a new topic message:

I have tried several times to 'discard' the message without success when I decide not to send new message.  The 'discard' option at the bottom is not working, but maybe I want to to get rid of it and it is not suppose to work the way I vision it to work...............

In order to 'discard' the unwanted message, I have to click on new topic, select 'drafts', check the box, and then I can 'discard' the message.

I am not sure I understand the purpose of the function of the 'discard' when composing a new message if I change my mind and don't want it.  Is this a 'bug'?
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Diane

Administrator to:

GammillCousins

APQSLongarmCousins

SecondCousins@APQSLongarmCousins

KenmoreTwinSisters


locked - hashtag deletion of thread question

KathyJ
 

Hi,

I have a question about the thread duration for a hashtag... In my group, we post a lot of messages with attachments. I'd like to use the hashtag feature to sort those by month and then delete after a month. My question is what date does the hashtag use for deleting? the first thread using that hashtag or when each thread was posted?

ie: My hashtag is #April. I post a thread with an attachment on April 1. I post another thread on April 30. Does my April 30 thread get deleted on May 1 - a month after my first thread on April 1...........

thanks

Kathy


locked Re: what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

 

On 4/19/2016 8:25 AM, John Green wrote:
but I
believe that many go 'no mail' rather than unsubscribing, because they might
look one day.
Yes - I am one of those. I am on quite a few cat-issue lists that I am
on nomail because I don't have a cat with that condition at this time -
but because I have a cat sitting/medicating business, and still have
cats, I stay nomail because I want to have the resources available
without having to re-subscribe. I have enough email that I don't want
to go mail unless I have an immediate situation (eg - lymphoma group
a year ago when I had a cat with an ocular lymphoma tumor. Wasn't on
long because it was too far advanced when we found it, and had
metastasized enough that I let her go.)

dg


locked Re: Auto Signature

 

Hi Bob,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 05:44 am, Bob bobnicolle7@... wrote:

When I post to io using my email program I have set up an auto signature that that says Bob by email. 

I just added the ability to save a signature. Go to your group home page, then select the Subscription link from the sidebar. You can then enter a signature associated with the subscription for that group.

Cheers, Mark


locked Re: what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

 

I think there are three separate ssues being discussed now.

On just the issue of targeting "no email members" with a special message, you can set your group to disallow no-email as setting, and send the message as a "special notice." 

On the multiple email issue, I think Shal said Mark has this on this ToDo list.

As for bouncing, I'd love an email notification, as well. Currently, I think there are just activity log entries (general and the member).

J



locked Re: what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

John Green
 

Dear Diana,

I must admit that I wonder how many inactive members we have. Very few
people actually post, and I suspect that that applies to many groups, but I
believe that many go 'no mail' rather than unsubscribing, because they might
look one day. Some never look at email, but equally others never visit the
site but I'm trying to make ours more interesting so that they do.

Think I'm on a losing battle, but at least I'm trying.

John G

-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Gregory [mailto:diana@catsandme.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 15:45
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

On 4/19/2016 7:15 AM, John Green wrote:
Similarly, I'd like to target 'no mail' members with a special message
to all of them.
Sounds good at first, but I can think of a couple of situations where that
might have some problems.

I don't like reading on the web, so I have an actual email address here.
But other people don't like email, so they will never read that message.
Maybe a place on the group home page for Notices - or a pinned post - so web
only folks will see what you want to send.

Second is the issue Jennifer addressed. Easiest way I've found for folks
who send from multiple addresses is to subscribe the alternates and set them
nomail.
They don't need messages because they will get them at the address they read
from.

dg


locked Re: what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

 

On 4/19/2016 7:15 AM, John Green wrote:
Similarly, I'd like to target 'no mail' members with a special message to
all of them.
Sounds good at first, but I can think of a couple of
situations where that might have some problems.

I don't like reading on the web, so I have an actual
email address here. But other people don't like email,
so they will never read that message. Maybe a place
on the group home page for Notices - or a pinned post -
so web only folks will see what you want to send.

Second is the issue Jennifer addressed. Easiest way
I've found for folks who send from multiple addresses
is to subscribe the alternates and set them nomail.
They don't need messages because they will get them
at the address they read from.

dg


locked Re: what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

John Green
 

Similarly, I'd like to target 'no mail' members with a special message to
all of them.

John G

-----Original Message-----
From: ro-esp [mailto:ro-esp@dds.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2016 13:29
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] what's the policy about "bouncing" in groups.io?

Yahoo seems to have an approach like "having members that don't receive the
messages is not a problem. We will not notify the mnoderators about it. If
the moderator checks the bouncing list (s)he can check the adresses and send
a reactivation request ONE BY ONE"


I for one think having members "bouncing' IS a problem that I would want to
be notified about, and it would be nice if I can send one reactivation
request about all bouncing members in one go

groetjes, Ronaldo


locked Love the option to allow moderator to approve messages from non-members

Jennifer Christian
 

Just discovered why this option is good (as well as a channel for spam -- although I've only gotten a handful so far).  

Our group is only open to "vetted and approved" members who have gone through our application process.  And I moderate all messages. However, it turns out that some (many?) of our members use more than one email address.  It is confusing (and discouraging) to them when their messages disappear into thin air or bounce back.  It doesn't OCCUR to them that they are sending email from an address that is not recognized as the "member".  

One just sent a message using a "back door" gmail address.   Luckily, because I accept messages from non-members, it came into my approval queue as a "non member" but I was able to figure out who it was from and approve it.  

Cordially,

Jennifer Christian, MD, MPH

Moderator, Work Fitness & Disability Roundtable


locked Re: Dim message title after reading on the website

John Green
 

I'd prefer unread posts to be dark, and read ones, lighter but as an active moderator I sometimes have to go back and read posts that might have caused offence. (At the moment there is a row about using hashtags or not)!


John


locked question about owner emails received by moderators

 

There are three settings for moderators to receive owner emails: Receive all messages sent to owner, receive only messages from subscribers, and receive no emails sent to owner.

Does "receive only messages from subscribers" include messages from pending members? They are listed as members in the members list, albeit as pending. So their status as "subscribers" here seems unclear.

Thanks.

J


locked Re: Dim message title after reading on the website

 

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
I've just made this change. Please let me know what you think. Lighter
links are new, darker links indicate threads/messages that have been read.
I'm not sure if this should be reversed or not.
There's one other imperfection in this scheme. If I click message 7392, then hit the Previous button to go back to 7391, 7390, 7389, and so on, then return to the message list, only 7392's link has a different color. This doesn't happen with Yahoo, because it uses the same link URL whether you've selected the message individually or if you've gotten to the message using Previous or Next, but the URLs are different in Groups.io.

You could probably just use different CSS, though, if you wanted message links to do this but not thread links.

Would it be an easier change to just save a "latest message number read" per group rather than keeping track of every message read? That's assuming everyone who reads by message view is reading in ascending order, so it would also be accompanied by a feature that allows someone to jump to the first new message (the one after the latest read). In thread view mode, you could jump to whichever thread has the next message following the last message read, and the last message in that thread becomes the last message read. (That would cause problems if a user read a thread, stopped in the middle, logged out, came back another day, and wanted to read the thread after that one, because with different messages in different threads, the order wouldn't be preserved, and some threads could potentially be skipped.)

JohnF


locked Re: the Top Posters list

Shadow Grafix <shadowgrafix@...>
 

That’s exactly what happened in our group.  Our poster who posts everything at least twice, was gloating that she’s the most prolific poster.  I want to nip that in the bud real quick if I can.  Remember, these are old people so posting something twice isn’t indicative of her wanting to be the most prolific.

hugs,

Judy

 

 

An Old Irish Blessing

May love and laughter light your days,
and warm your heart and home.
May good and faithful friends be yours,
wherever you may roam.
May peace and plenty bless your world
with joy that long endures.
May all life's passing seasons
bring the best to you and yours!

 

 

From: Ber [mailto:bxm@...]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 4:34 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: ADV: Re: [beta] the Top Posters list

 

I'd most likely also disable it in my group, if possible. I don't see much value in this Top-Posters information. As mentioned, it can also encourage unwanted behavior.

Instead of the Top-Posters-List, I'd like to see more, if not all, of the #Hashtags currently in use in a group.