Date   

locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

John Green
 

Seconded - this is quite important to us. I use it sometimes when looking
for posts made by someone who has either caused problems or we want to
remember when they have died, or for those who post with useful information
from a different perspective.

Incidentally, I decided not to have a profile on groups.io

John G

-----Original Message-----
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of J_catlady
Sent: Thursday, 05 May 2016 07:20
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] all posts by a member #wishlist

Msrk,

This may on the trello list already, but even if so, I'm hoping its priority
can be bumped up, especially with 'top posters' now gone and the current bug
making search on posts by author impossible.

The inability to find all posts by a given member has become a serious
limitation in my group. Especially for members who are (and were once shown
as) the actual 'top posters,' frequent (and, in most cases, important)
contributors to the group, it is now virtually impossible for anyone except
a moderator to find all of their posts.

Members need some way to find all posts by another member. In my opinion
this is the last remaining serious lack of an important feature that even
yahoo has.

Thanks in advance for considering bumping up its priority!

J

Sent from my iPhone

--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: New subscription option?

 

H is my evil twin.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 11:33 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I'm just seeing this thread now. I don't see this option adding much value, and see it as potentially confusing. 
H

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

In a support email, I was asked to add the following feature:

---
Can you please add the option to receive All Messages in individual emails but for these emails to be sent just once a day? That is, at x o’clock a subscriber who has this setting gets a big bunch of individual emails in one go.

Digest emails are useless for filing and replying but being distracted by a steady flow/chatter can be equally annoying.
---

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark

--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: New subscription option?

 

I'm just seeing this thread now. I don't see this option adding much value, and see it as potentially confusing. 
H

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

In a support email, I was asked to add the following feature:

---
Can you please add the option to receive All Messages in individual emails but for these emails to be sent just once a day? That is, at x o’clock a subscriber who has this setting gets a big bunch of individual emails in one go.

Digest emails are useless for filing and replying but being distracted by a steady flow/chatter can be equally annoying.
---

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark

--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

David P. Dillard
 

I think the problem here is how the search tool in use on Groups.IO works.

In database searching many databases provide an option for full text searching. On discussion groups this would entail the entire text of a message being word searchable.

One day at Temple, a student found me on the way into work and told me she lost search results I sent her. I told her to come to my office. Two hours later she came to my office and I was not in my best mood, my computer had a virus. Somehow I was able to get into my Yahoo mail.
Temple email addresses generally look like this. tua48666@temple.edu

In my Temple email (Gmail corporate email) I was able to search the
word "tua4866" without the quotation marks, actually not that exact letter combination as I made that one up. The immediate result was that message which I was able to fight the virus and send to her. Virually every database system treats punctuation as a space so tua4866 is a word to the computer in most any database. Furthermore, if one wants to search a phrase in many systems one can surround the phrases with quotation marks.

If I go to my Temple Gmail Account and search shal, I find 1-50 of many as the result, Google is even a worse fiction writer with numbers in Gmail than it is in its search tools. I stopped at 500 messages and most by far are from Goups.IO and Yahoo Groups and are in fact the correspondence of our dear most helpful friend Mr. Farley. This is happening because the entire post in all cases is full text searchable including the FROM, TO, Date and so forth sections of the header. If the default search for all Groups.IO lists were a full text search and it had a link to an advanced search for any specialized only types of searching Mark and the members wish, searching in Groups.IO would be easier and more productive. I would also help if the search box was on the main page and search results page as well as on the Messages page, this is true in many of the email servers
and discussion groups that I use along with most of the database servers that I am involved with using.

Now in searching the simple term shal (searching is usually case insensitive) I get this result for the search in Beta



Shal


Oh? Thank you for the updateI missed that message. Keeping hope for sure.. I have so much email I have not been able to catch up. About the digest I received as digest #1 and I was so excited about how wonderful it looks that I had to jump on sending Mark a message great job. I then continued to read my digest then stopped dead in my tracks.. Oh O a problem some messages are lined up to the right side of my email page and I am not able to read that message.. half way down the page you start to see errors in how the message is lined up and unreadable it will skip to a good message then skip to a bad message you can't read.. I took a snap shot of one you can't read to give you an idea of what it looks like and I want to email it to you so you can see what I see.. Vickie
By vickie 3 Messages



Feb 5
Shal -- a list of request and issues
Shal>>The point of pending messages is to control what gets posted to the group. You can never control what gets posted off-list. >Yes, I understand the purpose of pending messages. However if someone is moderated and officially not approved to participate with the group they should not be able to receive group messages.. As it stands now a Moderated member is able to post something to the group by using the calendar.. I can regulate members to viewing the calendar but only moderators can edit.. That is not the set up I have because I have always permitted my members to use what ever tools are available to them once they are officially approved to participate with the group.. Once potential members is officially approved I have no problem with the new member receiving group messages.. Any messages submitted to the group only ID is visible not emails. >>>That leaves only receiving individual emails as the only means to collect email addresses. This is not yahoo and my request is the potential member not receive group messages until the member is officially approved to participate with the group. Perhaps there is a way to moderate or set limits on one member from using certain options in the group. Agreed because I do not want to find myself going down memory lane fighting spammers or evil doers in the group. Perhaps we can add this to the wish list, because my main concern is anyone who wants to join the group should not have access to options given to them in the group , not receive group messages until moderator has officially approved to participate with the group. I am pleased , definitely in favor of this option.. Shal I have it set under privacy "listed in directory, private archives" If you mean to say there is an options for the wording " Restricted" I can't find it.I can't find it in a group. io basic group. Last, I would like add to the wish list the option to turn off Hashtags on the group front page and turn off Top Poster. Vickie
By vickie 29 Messages



Feb 1
[owlperch] To Duane, Matthew, Shal & Tyger
Brenda, I'm not them, but I think it is always permissible to bring your own documents (those that you created) to another site. Whether it is "doable" in the sense of "easy to accomplish" may be another matter entirely... Note that in Yahoo Groups' Guidelines it is all about permission: 5. Post your own content. Have the other group member's permissions before re-posting their content. This goes for you too, moderators. I'll have to try it and see. I can copy the formatted text or the HTML code out of PBworks' wikis, but I haven't done much yet with Groups.io's wikis. It looks like one can only see the formatted text, but that may ok if that will paste sensibly into Wordpress or Neo. Still haven't found the time to fold Duane's (updated) file into the Feature Comparison page Tyger put up at MMsanctuary. Been busy, and its looking like my weekend is going to be slammed too. -- Shal
By Shal Farley 21 Messages



1/27/15
Interesting - along with Brenda & Shal's cross-group posting, another oddity
Apparently the beta group got two copies of my blank-page response (the second one). It did what it should, and rejected it - but I didn't send it twice. Mark, I'll hang on to it if you need any of it - but I suspect your logs will show more since my host's mail system (Pair.com) was the one who sent back the reject. dg
By Diana Gregory 3 Messages


--------------------------

By the way, I just copied the titles on the result list and got all of this additional information, another bug???

Since Shal has posted a few more posts than this to Beta, it would seem that his name is not being picked up in the FROM and TO sections of the Beta posts. If it were this would be a most efficient way to find his posts on Beta or anyones name on any Groups.IO list.

Now if one is dealing with a Jane Smith or a Bill Jones kind of name, the implementation of quotation marks would provide a major advantage.

Searching shal farley in Beta finds the same four results.

Adding quotation marks leads to a null result.

Anyone interested in learning more about database searching technique is welcome to look at content I have shared on the web and in publications in this area using these links:


DATABASE SEARCHING: Search Technique Resources and Finding Tools

http://guides.temple.edu/databases

.

Articles by David Dillard Regarding Database Searching

https://sites.google.com/site/daviddillardsarticles/

.

Database Search Results and Searching FROM Net-Gold

http://tinyurl.com/h6pow4h

.

Groups.IO comes up a lot as well in search results for my lists

http://tinyurl.com/z5jc6kd

.

In short, a true full text search in Groups.IO would make searching content there much easier on all fronts and prevent having multiple search boxes as being as vital for searching each and every type of specialized search people on one group or another find they need. However, there is the advanced search box field that permits searching specific fields only
and not just the whole message.


Google Advanced Search

https://www.google.com/advanced_search


By the way a big thanks to both Shal and Mark for all of the tremendous help both have provided me over the years, even in cases where your reponses to others were helpful to me and I also have a big file in my Temple email of Mark Fletcher posts. My goal with this post is to make an excellent Groups server even better, searching is important.

Look at how much professional, scholarly and government literature there is on this topic from Goog Old Google Web Search using one of my search tricks

Google Domain Limited Web Search (GOV)

http://tinyurl.com/jnwxl5p


.

.

Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@temple.edu

On Thu, 5 May 2016, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:19 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com> wrote:
Msrk,
(My evil Russian twin? :-) )
 
Members need some way to find all posts by another member. In my opinion this is the last
remaining serious lack of an important feature that even yahoo has.
Where should this go? An obvious place would be in the profile somewhere, but many people don't have profiles.
Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: New subscription option?

Judy F.
 

I can then see a bunch of complaints that they are getting the messages late depending on the time sent.  If you send the ‘bunch’ early, they will miss those later in the day, if you send them late, then there will be complaints that they aren’t getting the message in a timely manner. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:49 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] New subscription option?

 

In a support email, I was asked to add the following feature:

 

---

Can you please add the option to receive All Messages in individual emails but for these emails to be sent just once a day? That is, at x o’clock a subscriber who has this setting gets a big bunch of individual emails in one go.

Digest emails are useless for filing and replying but being distracted by a steady flow/chatter can be equally annoying.

---

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Mark


locked New comment

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "More work on accessibility" by Mark Fletcher:

Make sure all input fields have matching ids with their associated labels. Also, investigate this: when i log into my groups, i click on the group i want to edit, in this case, openbook.
click on settings
click on member notices, tabbing through the edit boxes, nothing happens, and no lables are spoken.


locked Re: New subscription option?

 

Mark,

That is, at x o’clock a subscriber who has this setting gets a big
bunch of individual emails in one go.
And then there's the user dissatisfaction about delayed messages after they forget that they set that up...

My bigger concern would be that the pulse of messages may be more likely to trigger spam filters or other protection mechanisms at the user's email service.

Digest emails are useless for filing and replying but being
distracted by a steady flow/chatter can be equally annoying.
A technique I've used is to put a filter in my email UI that diverts messages from specific groups into an alternate "inbox" folder. Then I can choose when to notice the growing number of unread messages in that folder.

It may not be that easy for email reading on mobile devices. For that one could use a 2nd email address, one that isn't authorized on the mobile device, or has the alert muted, for low-priority traffic.

--
Shal
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked New card added

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "US State, Country column types" was added to list "Database".


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

 

Mark,

Where should this go? An obvious place would be in the profile
somewhere, but many people don't have profiles.
One issue with putting it in the profile is that a given profile may be a member of multiple groups. The profile owner may not want content from one group to be exposed to members of another group. Or at least would want to be able to control that exposure (a privacy control per group, perhaps).

One obvious other place would be in any message posted by that member. (a "See other posts by Mark" function). How else does a member get to another member's profile anyway?

Likewise any other place the member's name is shown as the contributor, such as Photos. But in such cases maybe it should be "other photos by". Or maybe the results should be "all contributions by" - encompassing photos, files, etc. and not just message posts.

Another obvious place would be the Members list, for those groups that allow members to see the list.

Shal
Who doesn't mind if anyone can see what I post in beta@, but wouldn't want muggles to know about Slytherin-Alumni@...


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

 

ps In terms of 'where', yahoo has this option at the bottom of every post.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:19 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Msrk,

(My evil Russian twin? :-) )

 
Members need some way to find all posts by another member. In my opinion this is the last remaining serious lack of an important feature that even yahoo has.

Where should this go? An obvious place would be in the profile somewhere, but many people don't have profiles.

Thanks,
Mark 

--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

 

Lol, not lead which twin is evil.;) 

In yahoo, you can click on 'see more posts by [author].' I don't know how you would do this I groups.io for members without a profile. For members with a profile it could be the same sort of UI. For members without, maybe you could substitute a search on messages 'by author' once that bug is fixed?
J

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:19 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Msrk,

(My evil Russian twin? :-) )

 
Members need some way to find all posts by another member. In my opinion this is the last remaining serious lack of an important feature that even yahoo has.

Where should this go? An obvious place would be in the profile somewhere, but many people don't have profiles.

Thanks,
Mark 

--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: New subscription option? to mark

jamie <jaimemcgill27@...>
 

hi mark

i would not use this at all so i am saying no its not needed

jamie


On 05/05/2016 17:58, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:

I think this is a needless addition and confusing. I am prepared to be persuaded though!


Note I'm not convinced it's needed either. I was just putting it out there to see if I was wrong in my assessment.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

 

Thanks. My groups are not moderated but I myself am on moderation to give me a chance to edit.:-)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:38 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
And this morning, no signature at all on a post to my group I sent via the web...

I couldn't reproduce this until I remember that you have moderated groups, which is where the problem was. It's fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 

--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: New subscription option?

 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:

I think this is a needless addition and confusing. I am prepared to be persuaded though!


Note I'm not convinced it's needed either. I was just putting it out there to see if I was wrong in my assessment.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: New subscription option?

Frances
 

I have tried both versions of digest and don't like them.

I do like the Advanced preferences though. Has this user tried it? I set that as the default for my family group.

I think this is a needless addition and confusing. I am prepared to be persuaded though!


Frances


locked Re: New subscription option?

Cacky B
 

Only if it's an option. I wouldn't want to have to handle my mail in that manner.

Cacky


On 5/5/2016 11:49 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
In a support email, I was asked to add the following feature:

---
Can you please add the option to receive All Messages in individual emails but for these emails to be sent just once a day? That is, at x o’clock a subscriber who has this setting gets a big bunch of individual emails in one go.

Digest emails are useless for filing and replying but being distracted by a steady flow/chatter can be equally annoying.
---

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked New subscription option?

 

In a support email, I was asked to add the following feature:

---
Can you please add the option to receive All Messages in individual emails but for these emails to be sent just once a day? That is, at x o’clock a subscriber who has this setting gets a big bunch of individual emails in one go.

Digest emails are useless for filing and replying but being distracted by a steady flow/chatter can be equally annoying.
---

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:38 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
And this morning, no signature at all on a post to my group I sent via the web...

I couldn't reproduce this until I remember that you have moderated groups, which is where the problem was. It's fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: all posts by a member #suggestion

 

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:19 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Msrk,

(My evil Russian twin? :-) )

 
Members need some way to find all posts by another member. In my opinion this is the last remaining serious lack of an important feature that even yahoo has.

Where should this go? An obvious place would be in the profile somewhere, but many people don't have profiles.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Add links functions

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Add the list of hashtags to the edit subject page.