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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

ro-esp
 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:26 AM, Chris Jones wrote:


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 05:20 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:


CHANGE: Changed 'Unsubscribe' button in the Subscription page to 'Leave
Group' to be more clear.
I don't see the improvement. "Leave" has several different meanings. If you prefer calling subscribers members, how about "end membership"?

Should the *Unsubscribe* label for the "unsubscribe" email address on each
group Home Page be changed to "Leave this Group" for equal clarity and
consistency?
I don't think so. Seems to me that the term "unsubscribe" has been customary for millions of people for decades.

groetjes, Ronaldo


Chris


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

John Wirtz SF
 

I don’t want to be obtuse here, I did exactly as you suggested.

What I got was a csv file for all the current members excluding past members!

 

That’s why I asked the question!

 

John
SFSS Groups

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Bellizzi
Sent: 18 April 2020 19:32
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Display member time zone #suggestion #done

 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 08:15 AM, John Wirtz SF wrote:

I also noticed that it isn’t possible to download the past members list.  That could be useful.

 

You can easily download the past members by using the large Download button above the list.
This will display the list on your screen, Select all, copy and past it into a text file 
Save the file as a .csv and you are all set to manipulate it with something like Excel.
Nothing very tricky there
 
--

Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Bob Bellizzi
 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 08:15 AM, John Wirtz SF wrote:

I also noticed that it isn’t possible to download the past members list.  That could be useful.

 

You can easily download the past members by using the large Download button above the list.
This will display the list on your screen, Select all, copy and past it into a text file 
Save the file as a .csv and you are all set to manipulate it with something like Excel.
Nothing very tricky there
 
--

Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Duane
 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:33 AM, John Pearce wrote:
It could be that only the joined date is displayed and the UTC is NOT the joined time, but rather their time zone setting.
That's correct.  To see the time they joined, hover over the date.  (If it happens to be today, it will just show the time.)

Duane


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

John Pearce
 

Not having looked at that field previously I may have been confused here.  It could be that only the joined date is displayed and the UTC is NOT the joined time, but rather their time zone setting.  Sorry if this is the case.

John P


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 04:28 PM, John Pearce wrote:
I still don't see it.  Just the joined date and time.
Contrary to what was hinted at in some earlier posts the Time Zone is shown on an individual member's record page, not the Members List.

Chris


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

John Pearce
 

I still don't see it.  Just the joined date and time.  Here is a cut and paste of that line from one of our member.  I am a co owner by the way.

xxx@...
Joined Feb 20 (UTC-04:00)


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

John Wirtz SF
 

I noticed a post where the moderator was asking for a sort on the date format.  So that;s another instance of the need to be able to sort on the subscriber fields

I also noticed that it isn’t possible to download the past members list.  That could be useful.

 

John
SFSS Group

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Duane
Sent: 18 April 2020 12:47
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Display member time zone #suggestion #done

 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 01:16 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:

Especially if you want to send a message only to those who might want to correct from the (until recently) default Pacific Time Zone (currently UTC-7).

Since this should really be a one-time thing, I'd use the Export to get the information and notify those that need it.  If it's a 'local' group, the correct setting could be made in the Default Sub Settings for future members.

Duane


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Duane
 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 01:16 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Especially if you want to send a message only to those who might want to correct from the (until recently) default Pacific Time Zone (currently UTC-7).
Since this should really be a one-time thing, I'd use the Export to get the information and notify those that need it.  If it's a 'local' group, the correct setting could be made in the Default Sub Settings for future members.

Duane


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 05:20 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: Changed 'Unsubscribe' button in the Subscription page to 'Leave Group' to be more clear.
Should the Unsubscribe label for the "unsubscribe" email address on each group Home Page be changed to "Leave this Group" for equal clarity and consistency?

Chris


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Jeremy H
 

It would also be desirable if it could be included in the Directory, both in the Overview and individual views.

Something else that I noticed in looking at this, is that on the member list display, according to the column heading, what is displayed is date 'Applied' rather than 'Joined'

Jeremy


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Michael Pavan
 

On Apr 17, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
For clarification, it's on the Member Record page not the actual List page.
It's nice to have on each individual Member Record page...

but it would be most useful if it were also a sortable column on the Member list,
so members can be sorted by Time Zone.

Especially if you want to send a message only to those who might want to correct from the (until recently) default Pacific Time Zone (currently UTC-7).


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Changed how we were limiting email sent to some domains, to use the MX server domain as a key for limiting instead of the receipient's domain. This will affect all messages to GoDaddy hosted domains, orange.fr/wanadoo.fr, earthlink/mindspring/netcom and a couple others. This will hopefully allow us to keep under per-connection limits imposed by these email service providers and avoid getting temporarily blocked for trying to send too much email at one time.
  • INTERNAL: Technical debt cleanup of web page templates. An ongoing process.
  • CHANGE: Updated the Help Center manuals with updates from Nina.
  • API: /downloadarchives was not returning the messages in ascending date order.
  • CHANGE: Allow 'list-style-type' styling in user generated content.
  • CHANGE: Some formatting tweaks to the Member page, including displaying the member's timezone.
  • CHANGE: Changed 'Unsubscribe' button in the Subscription page to 'Leave Group' to be more clear.
  • SYSADMIN: Switched primary database machines because of continuing (minor) corruption issues.
  • CHANGE: When viewing a member's information on mobile, changed the nav buttons at the top to a dropdown instead. Also fixed several navigation bugs when viewing past members.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Two requests: Format painter and option to allow forwarding of messages #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:58 AM, Jennifer Christian wrote:
No, I hadn't.  Is this a one-way street, meaning if I select Normalize HTML today, it will have to remain that way forever?  I don't want to eliminate ALL colors and visuals! 
No, you can turn it off and on as needed.

If I DO select "normalize" HTML, will I as moderator be able to add back in emphasis or color when I want to?   Since I am often passing along items of interest to my readers, it is often helpful to be able to draw attention to a particular sentence in a posting with highlighted or colored text.
You can't use fonts, sizes, and colors while it's on, but you can use bold and italic for emphasis, along with inline images.

We can continue the discussion on GMF, if you want, since this really isn't the proper group for that.

Duane


moderated Re: Two requests: Format painter and option to allow forwarding of messages #suggestion

Jennifer Christian
 

No, I hadn't.  Is this a one-way street, meaning if I select Normalize HTML today, it will have to remain that way forever?  I don't want to eliminate ALL colors and visuals! 

If I DO select "normalize" HTML, will I as moderator be able to add back in emphasis or color when I want to?   Since I am often passing along items of interest to my readers, it is often helpful to be able to draw attention to a particular sentence in a posting with highlighted or colored text.

Also I have seen the option for color inexplicably appear and disappear in the advanced toolbar.   I'd like to have it ALL THE TIME!

Smiling,
Jennifer Christian, MD, MPH
Moderator, Work Fitness & Disability Roundtable
Chair and list-serv moderator, ACOEM Work Fitness & Disability Section


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:50 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
It may be helpful if this information was included in the member list download.
The TZ is included, though not in UTC, if you use the Export Group Data to get the json file for the Members List.

Duane


moderated Re: Two requests: Format painter and option to allow forwarding of messages #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:27 AM, Jennifer Christian wrote:
Is there a way to do this already?
Have you tried the Settings page, in the Message Formatting panel, to set "Normalize HTML Emails"?
https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/customizing-group-settings/message-formatting-settings?single=true

Duane


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 04:23 PM, Duane wrote:
For clarification, it's on the Member Record page not the actual List page.
A pedant writes:

Ah.. the individual member's record pages...

Much clearer now. :)

Chris


moderated Re: Display member time zone #suggestion #done

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 04:23 PM, Duane wrote:
For clarification, it's on the Member Record page not the actual List page.
It may be helpful if this information was included in the member list download.

Andy


moderated Two requests: Format painter and option to allow forwarding of messages #suggestion

Jennifer Christian
 

Hello all -

1.  Format painter button:    Having this option would sure be nice.   I don't like releasing messages sent in with a hodgepodge of colors and fonts and line spacings  -- and it is nearly impossible without a format painter to get things to look professional.   Is there a way to do this already?  If not, is it a difficult thing to add?

2.  In this time of COVID-19, I have realized that a list-serv can be a good way to START propagating information.  But if members CANNOT forward messages, the propagation stops there.   I realize that enabling wholesale forwarding messages defeats the idea of a restricted group -- which all of mine are.  But somehow as moderator,  I would like to be able to turn on / turn off a forwarding option for individual messages when dissemination of a piece of news or an opportunity would be good.   Is this possible?

Cordially,
Jennifer Christian
WFDRoundtable@groups.io
ACOEM-WFDSection@groups.io
etc.

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