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Re: about contacting the mod of a group
I am a moderator only, not owner. I think that being able to contact the owner only is useful. That being said, being able to contact a moderator might be useful too. In YahooGroups a member can send in a regular post that automatically is seen by the moderators. That would probably happen here too - it would go into Messages, wouldn't it? Frances
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How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
How do you pronounce groups.io? And is there an official spelling of it in terms of what should be capitalized (GROUPS.IO vs Groups.io)?
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
Heh, I was wondering when someone would ask that. Actually, I don't know. It could be groups eye oh. Or maybe groups eee oh. Or maybe something else. What do you all think? I think just normal capitalization. I started with the idea that it'd be all caps, GROUPS.IO, but decided that was a bit too ostentatious. Mark
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM, <whofanvidme@...> wrote:
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
Linda
Hi, "groups dot eye oh" works for me, spelled Groups.io - unless it's a headline (GROUPS.IO). Linda
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Re: about contacting the mod of a group
Linda
Frances: In YahooGroups, messages sent to the owner address are emailed to the owner and moderators. They are not posts and do not appear anywhere on the web site. I believe that is as it should be. I think it's a good idea to have a separate email address for owners-only and one for owners and mods. Ronaldo: People who use web mail can copy and paste the owner address into the TO: line. Linda
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
whofanvidme,
How do you pronounce groups.io?Hmm... I've been saying "Groups dot eye oh", which is sometimes a mouthful. With time (and in context) just "Groups" will work. On the silly side, we could shorten it to "Grio" rhymes with Rio (de Janeiro). ;-) -- Shal Time catches up with us all, Doctor. "Well it has never laid a glove on me."
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
Mark,
It could be groups eye oh. Or maybe groups eee oh. Or maybe somethingOf those I'd choose "groups eye oh" - "groups eee oh" sounds a little too Italiano to me, or too much like like the diminutive "oopsy-oh". -- Shal
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
Bruce Pappas <bruce@...>
I've been reading it in my head "groups eye oh." That's easy. I'd stick with that. -Bruce _______________________________________________ Bruce Colglazier Pappas Email: bruce@... Phone: (H) 763-377-9874 - (C) 763-229-7075 - (F) 763-377-8189 Address: 20 Ardmore Dr, Minneapolis, MN 55422-5208 USA Website: www.brucepappas.com Skype: bruce.c.pappas
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Mark,
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
Laurence Taylor
On 18/10/2014 22:45, Shal Farley wrote:
Of those I'd choose "groups eye oh" - "groups eee oh" sounds a littleI'd go for "groups eye oh" too. I don't pronounce punctuation (where's Victor Borge when you need him?). I did look up where the IO domain is, and it's the British Indian Ocean Territory (Diego Garcia &c). I was beginning to wonder if the server was somewhere near Jupiter! -- rgds LAurence
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
ro-esp
Being used to yahoogroups and googlegroups, I until now assumed it would be called "iogroups" ("io" being the esperanto-word for "something").
Maybe you could find a name that's easier to remember, something catchy.. groetjes, Ronaldo -- http://www.esperanto.net http://www.moneyasdebt.net
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Re: about contacting the mod of a group
ro-esp
lin.zine@gmail.com sendis:
People who use web mail can copy and paste the owner address into the TO: line.Doesn't look like that to me. I don't see "beta+owner@groups.io". I just see "Contact Group Owner". Is that even copyable? I think it would be better if you could read/copy "beta+owner@groups.io" I don't fully understand the comment about "your browser", especially if it's not *my* browser but someone else's (library, internetcafe, whatever) groetjes, Ronaldo -- http://www.esperanto.net http://www.moneyasdebt.net
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Linda
Hello Ronaldo, If you highlight Contact Group Owner, right click (on a pc) will give you the option to copy the target - copy, then paste the result into whichever browser you're using (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Chrome, or similar - at home or in the library. Linda
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Ronaldo,
Doesn't look like that to me. I don't see "beta+owner@groups.io". IYes, in most browsers the context menu (right mouse click) will let you copy that as an email address. I don't fully understand the comment about "your browser", especiallyRead that as "the browser you are using". The application or web site to launch when you click on a "mailto:" link is generally configurable. A web search for "how do I make Gmail my default browser in Firefox" (or whichever email service and browser you're using) will likely turn up instructions. That said, I don't know if settings like that might be locked down on a shared computer. -- Shal
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David P. Dillard
I am lost on this one, what is the connection between punction and Victor Borge?
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By the way, pbulically archived sites on IO will be indexed by Google. Everyone have a great week. .. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@temple.edu
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014, Laurence Taylor wrote:
On 18/10/2014 22:45, Shal Farley wrote:Of those I'd choose "groups eye oh" - "groups eee oh" sounds a littleI'd go for "groups eye oh" too. I don't pronounce punctuation (where's
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David,
I am lost on this one, what is the connection between punction andOh, what an impoverished life you've led. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bpIbdZhrzA -- Shal
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
David P. Dillard
I guess I was unconcious in a bit of a deep comma to have missed this. I have been aware of Borge's exploits in the world of classical music, but this venture escaped me. Thanks for the link. It was a very good period piece without question and should make its mark in the world of grammar exposition and you can quote me on this.
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Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@temple.edu
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014, Shal Farley wrote:
David,I am lost on this one, what is the connection between punction andOh, what an impoverished life you've led.
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Re: How Do You Pronounce Groups.io?
Laurence Taylor
On 20/10/2014 02:17, David P. Dillard wrote:
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZFuMuMKXI . -- rgds LAurence
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How does groups.io deal with "bouncing members"?
ro-esp
In yahoogroups, failure to delive tha message makes members get listed as "bouncing".If the mods don't bother to check the "bouncing"-list regularly (and send reactivation-requests), the group can lose a lot of members without anyone noticing...
So what happens in groups.io ? Does the sender get notified of non-delivery? Do the moderators? Is there a notification for when someone gets listed as "bouncing"? groetjes, Ronaldo -- http://www.esperanto.net http://www.moneyasdebt.net
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Re: How does groups.io deal with "bouncing members"?
Excellent question, and one that needs to be addressed in the Help Center. Here is what I've written for the help center. Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions for how it can be improved (either the text or the actual bounce handling....) ----- An email bounce occurs when a message cannot be delivered. It could be that the email address is incorrect. Or the user's mailbox is full. Or the user's email provider is having a temporary problem handling email. There are two general types of email bounces: hard bounces and soft bounces. Hard bounces are permanent errors; no more email should be delivered to that email address. Soft bounces are temporary problems; email isn't being received right now, but the email address is valid and it's expected that whatever the problem is will go away. Groups.io provides fully automated bounce handling. When we receive a bounce, we try to determine whether it's a hard or a soft bounce. For many scenarios, it's clear cut whether a bounce is a hard bounce or a soft bounce. But in some cases, we can't tell. In that case, we assume it's a soft bounce. When we receive a hard bounce for someone, we immediately change their status to Bouncing, and we stop sending email to them. If we receive soft bounces for someone for 8 days, we also change their status to Bouncing and stop sending email to them. Once a user is Bouncing, every 3 days we attempt to send an email to them, explaining that we are not sending group messages to them. The email has a link they can click to unbounce their account. If we receive no response after sending 4 of these bounce reports to them, we automatically unsubscribe them from all groups they are subscribed to. Members that have the Bouncing status are displayed in the Members view with a 'B' next to their subscription.. You can view the email delivery history for any of your group members, by clicking on a member in the Members view, then clicking the 'Email Delivery History' link at the top of the page. For groups that you do not moderate, you can view your own email delivery history by clicking on the Subscription link for the group. There will be a 'Email Delivery History' link at the top of the page. ------ Mark
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM, ro-esp <ro-esp@...> wrote: In yahoogroups, failure to delive tha message makes members get listed as "bouncing".If the mods don't bother to check the "bouncing"-list regularly (and send reactivation-requests), the group can lose a lot of members without anyone noticing...
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Re: How does groups.io deal with "bouncing members"?
Mark,
For many scenarios, it's clear cut whether a bounce is a hard bounceI'm curious about the cases you find uncertain. Yahoo Groups's handling of bounces was once very much like you describe, with the hard/soft distinction being made strictly by the response code (4xy is soft, 5xy is hard), per the email RFC. But then a couple years back some email services started using 5xy codes when rejecting due to RBL results (Realtime Black List, or Dynamic Black List) - which made a mess of things. At that point Yahoo Groups started treating all bounces as "soft". Is that the circumstance you're concerned with? And are you using some kind of heuristic to further discriminate among 5xy responses? If we receive soft bounces for someone for 8 days, we also changeIn the case of an RBL problem the member may be having some fraction of the messages bounced, and the rest delivered. How does your mechanism work in such a case? Is a single bounce in each of eight consecutive days sufficient to change the status, or does it require eight days with all messages bounced, or something in between? If we receive no response after sending 4 of these bounce reports toIf such an address happens to be the sole owner of a group, what happens to the group (if anything)? -- Shal
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