As an informational aside: at 55 cents a member, under the new charging structure, a new Premium group with 1820 members will cost its owner $1000 per year (annual payment) - I don't know how many

I don't necessarily disagree with that. The value of the various aspects of what Groups.io offers will vary depending upon how people interact with the service provided. For email only users, the

A large portion of the hand-holding that our group owners do is untangling the mess that subscribers cause for themselves by using multiple email addresses, not knowing which they are posting from and

Actually I do both. ;) -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

My compliments. And yes, it is a dichotomy which ignores a grey area in the middle - I would accept there are many group owners who run their groups for similar motives, and so get non-financial

I think that’s a false dichotomy. I get at least as much reward out of helping the cats in my group as their owners (my group members) do, and I am happy to pay for the group out of my own pocket. I

In the related "Simplified Donation feature", On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 09:37 PM, Andy Wedge wrote, but (this part) is I think more relevant to this thread: While I too can understand Mark's preference

Andy, My concept stated "No Refunds". In that case the remaining prepayment would convert to Groups.io. I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt it amounts to anything more than prior notice of the policy.

This should be fixed now. Thanks, Mark

I've made that change. Thanks, Mark

Hi Shal If Groups.io is holding group members' donations made on the understanding that they would be used to pay group subscription fees, what happens if a Group owner decides to close the group down

I am glad you suggested that as I have some databases that are getting pretty long and when I have to add a new entry, it takes quite some time to get down to the bottom to add a row. Another

After "further consideration" (aka sleeping on it;) I now agree with you that this is the best compromise. So something does need to be fixed here, as you outlined: make the Subscription page for a

Mark, I thought I'd break this out as a separate Suggestion, since it is actually separate from the Pricing Changes topic. If any aspects of this suggestion reflect a naivety with regard to the

It would be very handy if there was an option to have the database buttons at the top so you don't have to scroll all the way down to get to them:

Many, perhaps most, business owners are out to please, business schools often say delight, their stake holders. For GIO, this is users and moderators. I only learned of the price and feature changes 2

Mark thinks it is, that's why this thread exists. Of course he can charge whatever he likes, but if he doesn't manage to find enough people willing to invest thousands of dollars in his one-man (!)

>> Mark’s expenses, what he needs to charge, and what he feels is a fair return for his efforts, are none of our business. > Hear, hear. True ! But Not the point... If he said we have x many this

Excuse me if I don't agree. Loudly. Chris

Hear hear Ginger.....my feelings exactly. Now standby while we get jumped on.