And in the case where the person applies via the web and is a non-groups.io virgin, I think you could get the even weirder case where they could return the pending questionnaire, but if they don't

Earthink is definitely blacklisting all of groups.io. I have about 15 earthink.net members. The latest soft bounce was 12/16/2018 The last hard bounce was 12/15/2016 Our message board is fairly

Thanks. (Damn, that dates me! :-) -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Yes, exactly. But the problem (I'm guessing) is that there's no realistic way, at least currently, for groups.io to know which groups require a response to the pending notice. It is conceivable that

The information I found says they merged in early 2000, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthLink Duane

Having done a bit more "research" I have to agree. IIRC Mark's last "definitive description" of the sequence was in message 16380 of 19th March 2018, but no matter how many times I read it I finish up

Well, as a general statement no e-mail service providers should be blacklisting groups.io for spam. Since you can't get a groups.io message without having gone through the subscription process they

Posts crossed, just saw Brian’s. Brian, are EarthLink and mindspring somehow the same? I did have one bouncing mindspring member unbounce after I sent a bounce probe. -- J Messages are the sole

Glad you mentioned the EarthLink bouncing. I’ve recently had a flurry of mindspring members bouncing. (Weren’t those the same, or one became the other?) -- J Messages are the sole opinion of

Sharon, This is an Earthlink issue. They're "blacklisting" groups.io, again. See this topic on the Group Managers Forum: Help: Earthlink now bouncing emails sent to *me* from

It would be useful to be able to see a member’s bounce history — or if there is one, I can’t find it. I’m having a problem with Earthlink addresses bouncing. Would like to see when they

I think the bottom line is that this is all very messy, one way or the other. And people are confused by it on an ongoing basis. And when you throw premium groups and restricted groups into the mix,

Yes, I've just (re-)confirmed all of that. What still bothers me about this is that mods sometimes see NC members in the pending list, and other times, just because the person applied via email rather

J, I think that description is correct, for +subscribe by email, regardless of whether the person has an account already. While they would be NC at this point, they wouldn't yet be listed in the

I'm up now, for better or for worse. Some issues for the morning: 1. It's possible the test email address is not (in my tests tonight) receiving the confirmation emails because they're getting lost.

J, I may have my terminology, or process, mixed up. I'm thinking of the email address confirmation, relating to clearing NC status. That's unrelated to confirming an email +subscribe command, which

Shal, I've been playing around with my test group and test members, and I may need to strike my last comment from the record. It seemed for a time that confirmation emails were sent for every group a

Shal, I think I understand what you’re saying here, and if so, that’s incorrect. Each specific group membership requires a response to a confirmation email, even if the person is already in

Samuel, If you, at a given address, have ever received a group message then you aren't NC status. It is an address-specific confirmation, unrelated to any particular group subscription. Presumably

If one is subscribed to only one or two lists, then maybe. But I (for example) am subscribed to many lists (and I don't read every e-mail or even look at the list all the time), and it takes quite a