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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Which was the point I was making, albeit rather obliquely in my earlier post.
An email to the ICO (Information Commissioner for non - UK readers) might just stir things up a bit.
Chris.
Which was the point I was making, albeit rather obliquely in my earlier post.
An email to the ICO (Information Commissioner for non - UK readers) might just stir things up a bit.
Chris.
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Chris Jones
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
In my last message message, something or someone downstream of me replaced the word "gmail" after the @ symbol, by three dots,in two places, and that wrecked the meaning. Truncation of the user-part
In my last message message, something or someone downstream of me replaced the word "gmail" after the @ symbol, by three dots,in two places, and that wrecked the meaning. Truncation of the user-part
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Peter Martinez <Peter.Martinez@...>
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#22352
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Shal's reference to gmail using "+" in some way associated with aliases, is not consistent with the observation (by me and others) that gmail truncates leftsides at a "+" . An email to
Shal's reference to gmail using "+" in some way associated with aliases, is not consistent with the observation (by me and others) that gmail truncates leftsides at a "+" . An email to
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Peter Martinez <Peter.Martinez@...>
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#22351
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
And also being on that group I have seen the offending message that
should have just been sent to owners. Some owner messages should never
be accidentally sent to the whole list.
As for gmail
And also being on that group I have seen the offending message that
should have just been sent to owners. Some owner messages should never
be accidentally sent to the whole list.
As for gmail
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Dave Sergeant
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#22350
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Chris,
The problem is that the affected person may not be a user of the service that’s messed up. I would however say that there may be a case for filing a GDPR failure against them
Dave
Chris,
The problem is that the affected person may not be a user of the service that’s messed up. I would however say that there may be a case for filing a GDPR failure against them
Dave
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Dave Wade
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#22349
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
IMHO this is a very strong lever to try to get the service provider(s) to get their act in order; an address that was acceptably formatted was corrupted with the result that personal information sent
IMHO this is a very strong lever to try to get the service provider(s) to get their act in order; an address that was acceptably formatted was corrupted with the result that personal information sent
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Chris Jones
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#22348
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Thanks for that Dave! For the benefit of the others reading this, I believe Dave is referring to a group in which both Dave and I (and Chris) are members, and the individual in question was
Thanks for that Dave! For the benefit of the others reading this, I believe Dave is referring to a group in which both Dave and I (and Chris) are members, and the individual in question was
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Peter Martinez <Peter.Martinez@...>
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#22347
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Mark,
GMAIL also ignores “+” and almost all special symbols. (it didn’t used to), but if moderators, one of whom is on BTINTERNET try and use this to chat to each other , then the results are
Mark,
GMAIL also ignores “+” and almost all special symbols. (it didn’t used to), but if moderators, one of whom is on BTINTERNET try and use this to chat to each other , then the results are
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Dave Wade
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#22346
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Folks,
The trouble is when it goes wrong, the effect can be somewhat devastating. When it happened on one of the lists I am on some very personal information about an individual that should not have
Folks,
The trouble is when it goes wrong, the effect can be somewhat devastating. When it happened on one of the lists I am on some very personal information about an individual that should not have
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Dave Wade
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#22345
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Chris,
Moreover, it is a decision with precedent. Gmail has been using + for aliases since long before Groups.io was started.
Shal
Chris,
Moreover, it is a decision with precedent. Gmail has been using + for aliases since long before Groups.io was started.
Shal
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Shal Farley
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#22344
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Dave,
They can post messages to the group using whichever interface they like. It is only email commands (including messages to +owner) that are afflicted by synchronoss' error.
Whose web interface
Dave,
They can post messages to the group using whichever interface they like. It is only email commands (including messages to +owner) that are afflicted by synchronoss' error.
Whose web interface
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Shal Farley
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#22343
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Sorry; I think that is unfair. If + is supposed to be acceptable character under the terms of RFC 2821 then using it was a perfectly reasonable decision. The fact that a particular combination of
Sorry; I think that is unfair. If + is supposed to be acceptable character under the terms of RFC 2821 then using it was a perfectly reasonable decision. The fact that a particular combination of
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Chris Jones
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#22342
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Peter,
Gmail is another.
It uses + in the user part as the lead-in for an alias address. That feature won't work properly with messages sent from a synchronoss afflicted service.
You can add to
Peter,
Gmail is another.
It uses + in the user part as the lead-in for an alias address. That feature won't work properly with messages sent from a synchronoss afflicted service.
You can add to
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Shal Farley
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#22341
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Um, the idea of btinternet users only posting via the web interface is
surely a non starter. I have no statistics but I sense on the groups I
moderate that probably 80% of users, including a LOT of
Um, the idea of btinternet users only posting via the web interface is
surely a non starter. I have no statistics but I sense on the groups I
moderate that probably 80% of users, including a LOT of
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Dave Sergeant
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#22340
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Mark/Shal:
The fact that gmail ignores dots in the leftside of email addresses, is not relevant to this discussion. Gmail ONLY do this on emails coming into the gmail domain, and that's reasonable.
Mark/Shal:
The fact that gmail ignores dots in the leftside of email addresses, is not relevant to this discussion. Gmail ONLY do this on emails coming into the gmail domain, and that's reasonable.
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Peter Martinez <Peter.Martinez@...>
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#22339
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Re: change verbiage on log entry for forbidden new tag
Mark,
Thanks. I would make the following changes. I am including here the phrase "via email," which currently is appended to the log entry (but not included in your message) if the message was sent
Mark,
Thanks. I would make the following changes. I am including here the phrase "via email," which currently is appended to the log entry (but not included in your message) if the message was sent
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J_Catlady
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#22338
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Re: #wishlist Ability to Hide Topics/Posts
#suggestion
Bryce,
I wrote:
After Re-reading the prior topic, and some consideration, I retract my suggestion.
Instead I think that Hide Topic (and possibly Hide
Bryce,
I wrote:
After Re-reading the prior topic, and some consideration, I retract my suggestion.
Instead I think that Hide Topic (and possibly Hide
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Shal Farley
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#22337
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Mark,
Indeed. ;-)
I too do not favor changing it.
Or even aliasing it. I thought of that but realized it wouldn't solve the problem - the people who need to use the alias wouldn't know about it.
Mark,
Indeed. ;-)
I too do not favor changing it.
Or even aliasing it. I thought of that but realized it wouldn't solve the problem - the people who need to use the alias wouldn't know about it.
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Shal Farley
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#22336
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Re: notification on update
Many thanks, Mark!
Best,
Glenn
Many thanks, Mark!
Best,
Glenn
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Glenn Glazer
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#22335
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Re: Messages to +owner being wrongly routed to the whole group
Late replying to this.
I'm wary (used it right this time Shal!) of changing this, especially to a period. It's not like periods aren't interpreted differently by different mail servers. Gmail, for
Late replying to this.
I'm wary (used it right this time Shal!) of changing this, especially to a period. It's not like periods aren't interpreted differently by different mail servers. Gmail, for
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Mark Fletcher
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#22334
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