Just thought folks might like to know a little more about how this business works. I don't know about Groups.io, but I have experience with the economics of providing online services. The costs are

It is called list sponsorship. I don't know the ROI a sponsor would expect, for an annual payment of US$3,000. (One person I know that sponsors such things, expects a dollar or sponsorship money to

Sorry, I meant "Drew" <donhellen@...> wrote: ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: https://groups.io/g/ICOM

Mark set up the predecessor of Groups.io in 1998, having been using email lists since 1989 : https://wingedpig.com/category/onelist/ As you say, a good few years after Usenet, but still a pioneer of

Shal . . . My cable internet provider used to provide access to Usenet for free. I now pay $2.95/mo for a small number of GB of data, plenty for me since I don't download copyright protected movies

Sorry, I didn't follow the cable tv analogy. In any case there are still USENET providers around who charge individuals a mostly flat fee for access to thousands of groups. (Some people may not know

Herb, You are right, that is exactly true of a system of perks. I agree there. The group owner should be able to decide whether there are perks at all, and if so which features are tied to the perk

Ken, I understood that perfectly well. But I reject the idea that it has to be 100% one or the other. So my suggestion is that the members (and the owner) be able to make voluntary donations toward

Ken, this is exactly what I would like to see happen.

Barbara, Use the "Upgrade ($20) for one month, w/automatic downgrade to Basic after" button. Use it in a test group if you don't want to use it in a real group. It doesn't even have to be your test

>>> It just seems like it would make more sense if the subscriber were the customer instead of the group owner.<<< *** This makes little or no sense (nonsense?) from Mark’s point of view operating

Wikipedia has a stumbling blick for me. Each time aI try to donate, I read the P&Qs, and learn they didn't just eant my money... they wanted my name and details beyond what anybody needs... and they

Any chance you could have another co-owner (and you really really should have another co-owner for safety) do the money collecting (i.e., receipt of monetary gifts)?

(list of perks, that are otherwise restricted by the group) I don't think anyone should be able to bypass what the group's owners have specified as how the group operates. If on the other hand the

I am glad that you have found a way that works for you :). My own personal circumstances are very different by the sound of it and your solution would not work for me. Barbara

I thought this was true too, which is one reason I stopped asking for donations to keep a website going in the past (after having spoken to an IRS rep who said if you are collecting money you would

Shal, Apparently, I didn't explain myself properly. I was referring to the concept of GROUPS.IO making each user a customer and charging each user rather than the group owner. Ken “Silence in the

Mark, Earlier I may have opposed rewriting the From field in member's own messages when "I always want copies of my own emails" is checked, but a few factors have changed by viewpoint. Now I think

Janice, What Donald and others have said. Yahoo Groups did have discrete two-line text ads in the footers of email messages at one time. They gave up on that really early on because the few

JohnF, I like that idea. Sort of like joining a YouTuber's Discord channel. I like that too. Also, maybe there could be donation incentives at the group level, either within the current Donation