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moderated Re: "Hold" on Membership Applications #suggestion

 

Definitely a good suggestion.


moderated Groups.io Updates suggestion

M Parker
 

Some of my ex YahooGroup but now Groups.io members are missing the Yahoo-style updates that used to come out saying what files and photos had been uploaded in the recent past.

Yahoo and Groups.io could send an email out when a file had been uploaded if the uploader had ticked the box to notify members, but uploaded photos never got mentioned. Only in Updates could this activity be seen.

Is it possible to have a similar feature introduced to Groups.io please?

Margaret P


moderated Re: Lock Profile Display Names

Jeremy H
 

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 05:55 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 01:55 pm, Jeremy H wrote:
I can understand the desirability of - and would support - an option that ONLY group owners, and authorised moderators, can change display names - even if I wouldn't necessarily use it for my groups.
This capability already exists, as Barbara noted. 
Does it? (Methinks you may have missed the 'only') The ability for a group owner to change a member's display name certainly exists (via Admin > Members), AIUI this is always there, without setting an option: the question/topic is over an option that the member may not, so only owners can. (But there have been a lot of distracting comments over what should be in a display name)

If you think the option does exist, could you point us at it, please, as I can't find it.

Jeremy


moderated "Hold" on Membership Applications #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

There are occasions where it is necessary to seek "further and better particulars" about a specific application, but there does not appear to be any way of "holding" an application so that other moderators cannot accidentally award membership. (If there is then I haven't found it yet!)

Could "Hold" be added to the drop - down list of "Actions"? "Hold" would have to inhibit accepting members by email until the Hold was removed. This would flag up to other moderators that "something is going on".

I am not suggesting that only the moderator who put a hold on should be able to release it; that should be available to all moderators.

Regards,

Chris


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

 

Hi All,

Thanks for the bug reports. I think I've fixed them all except for the icons in the HTML editor. Working on that now.

I had to switch things a bit; instead of a flashing question mark, if there's a problem with the icon, it'll just be a box. Please let me know if you see any of these.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

andy t
 

        Hello Mark,
You said that you added a bunch of eye cons. Are these text labeled so that us totally blind list owners and those who are on the lists will know
what they are when we come across them?
 

From: Mark Fletcher
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:59 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Icon upgrades
 
Hi All,
 
As part of another project, I upgraded the icon package that the website uses to the latest version (Font Awesome 4 to 5). As part of that upgrade, they made a bunch of incompatible changes. I think I got them all, but please let me know if you see any icons that consist of a segmented circle with a flashing question mark in the middle. That would indicate one that I missed.
 
Thanks,
Mark
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

Bruce Bowman
 

Github and Trello Integrations icons are also showing the flashing ?.

Bruce


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

Bruce Bowman
 

Subscribers trying to post new topic. Buttons for attaching a photo/file are missing.

Bruce


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

 

oops, same for moderated topics
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

 

p.s Same for stickies. 
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

 

Locked topics are displaying alternating question mark/exclamation marks in both Topics and Messages view.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Icon upgrades

Tom H
 

Just saw that ? for subgroups on my groups list on Android.


moderated Icon upgrades

 

Hi All,

As part of another project, I upgraded the icon package that the website uses to the latest version (Font Awesome 4 to 5). As part of that upgrade, they made a bunch of incompatible changes. I think I got them all, but please let me know if you see any icons that consist of a segmented circle with a flashing question mark in the middle. That would indicate one that I missed.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Lock Profile Display Names

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 01:55 pm, Jeremy H wrote:
I can understand the desirability of - and would support - an option that only group owners, and authorised moderators, can change display names - even if I wouldn't necessarily use it for my groups.
This capability already exists, as Barbara noted. 

And I would say that it is down to each group owner to decide whether he has any standard for them, in including (or excluding) real (or fake) names, and whether he requires to know the real names (or any other details) of members. And that it is his privilege to do so, for his group. As it is my right to not provide them, and not be a member of his group.
That's kinda of the point...if we can already change them anyway, the ability to "lock in" those changes isn't really taking away any "subscriber rights" (whatever that means). 

Over an over again, in GMF and elsewhere, I hear group owners assert that the owner sets the rules and subscribers should be expected to abide by them. I can't fathom why this particular example would be an exception.

Bruce


moderated Re: Allow subgroups to have subgroups

toki
 

On 04/11/2018 09:30 PM, Tom H wrote:
and what you are really in need of is a structure for messages.
For the described use case, I think you are correct.

However, I can see one use-case, for which sub-groups of a sub-group of
the main group might be useful:

Describing via example:

* Software Development Company list

** Software Program # 1 list

*** Support for Software Program # 1 list;
*** Development of Software Program # 1 list;
*** GitHub generated junk for and about Software Program # 1 list;

** Software Program # 2 list

*** Support for Software Program # 2 list;
*** Development of Software Program # 2 list;
*** GitHub generated junk for and about Software Program # 2 list;

** Software Program # 3 list

*** Support for Software Program # 3 list;
*** Development of Software Program # 3 list;
*** GitHub generated junk for and about Software Program # 3 list;

A second example:

* Educational Institution list;

** Biology Department list;

*** Biology 156 list;
*** Biology 157 list;
*** Biology 158 list;

** Math Department list;

*** Math 099 list;
*** Math 101 list;
*** Math 102 list;
*** Math 103 list;

** English Department list;

*** English 104 list;

**** English 104 Section 1 list;
**** English 104 Section 2 list;
**** English 104 Section 3 list;
**** English 104 Section 4 list;

*** English 103 list;

**** English 103 Section 1 list;
**** English 103 Section 2 list;
**** English 103 Section 3 list;
**** English 103 Section 4 list;

*** English 102 list;

**** English 102 Section 1 list;
**** English 102 Section 2 list;
**** English 102 Section 3 list;
**** English 102 Section 4 list;

*** English 101 list;

**** English 101 Section 1 list;
**** English 101 Section 2 list;
**** English 101 Section 3 list;
**** English 101 Section 4 list;

*** English 099 list;

**** English 099 Section 1 list;
**** English 099 Section 2 list;
**** English 099 Section 3 list;
**** English 099 Section 4 list;

*** English 098 list;

**** English 098 Section 1 list;
**** English 098 Section 2 list;
**** English 098 Section 3 list;
**** English 098 Section 4 list;

*** English 097 list;

**** English 097 Section 1 list;
**** English 097 Section 2 list;
**** English 097 Section 3 list;
**** English 097 Section 4 list;

*** English 096 list;

**** English 096 Section 1 list;
**** English 096 Section 2 list;
**** English 096 Section 3 list;
**** English 096 Section 4 list;

However, I don't see it being cost-effective for Mark to set this
functionality up, until an organization specifically requests it.
It makes for a useful Enterprise level feature.It would also require
more than a TB of storage space, if messages were archived --- something
that probably would be legally required.

jonathon


moderated Re: Allow subgroups to have subgroups

Beth Weld
 

Thanks Tom,
I used meetings as an example because they are easy, but the much larger challenge for us will be educational offerings which increase every month and never go away.   I'm trying to get rid of what turned out to be over a hundred yahoo groups (and growing) because most are a subset of the "main" group. As an example, members are able to sign up  and pay for a workshop. There are files, photos and conversations that pertain just to that workshop, and no one else is allowed to access.  There are at least 75 of those at the moment and growing.  I was trying to make things easier to  manage and use by grouping under broad subgroups.

I hadn't really considered databases or wiki pages so I'll think about those some more. I'm not seeing it, but then I could be blind.

The hashtag idea is interesting, and I'll work on it.  Like many other groups mine is not real technical so I would need to really streamline it.  I have watched the category discussion, and I don't think we are part of that game just yet.

Tom, thanks for your ideas and suggestions. I do understand the value of using what is already there and operational.  I also understand that there is no one way to do it, and suggestions from others really help get me out of my box.  I still like a good hierarchy for organization, but if I can't get it then I'll adapt.

Beth


moderated Re: Lock Profile Display Names

RickGlaz <rickglaz4742435@...>
 

Verification of IDs is tough. It took me 4 months of kicking and screaming
and a re-write of the "ID.ME" requirements to get myself through electronically.
Then SheerID was still broken... (I finished up with them an easier way.)

The first one is (one of) the Federal Gov't Official Verification Contractors for Federal Sites.

If they have trouble, do we really think we can do better? Rhetorical...

Rick

On April 11, 2018 at 4:55 PM "Jeremy H via Groups.Io" <jeremygharrison=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:


I can understand the desirability of - and would support - an option that only group owners, and authorised moderators, can change display names - even if I wouldn't necessarily use it for my groups.

And I would say that it is down to each group owner to decide whether he has any standard for them, in including (or excluding) real (or fake) names, and whether he requires to know the real names (or any other details) of members. And that it is his privilege to do so, for his group. As it is my right to not provide them, and not be a member of his group.

Jeremy
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moderated Re: Allow subgroups to have subgroups

Tom H
 

I hesitated to comment on this, thinking that there are better informed members than I that would. Methinks this is a misuse of the concept of Groups and Sub-Groups and what you are really in need of is a structure for messages. You seem to be trying to structure content through Sub-Groups, a facility that is intended as a means of splitting up members of the mother Group into focus groups. But your content is seemingly of interest to all members of the main group so there is no reason to break the membership into sub-groups. 

Could you not achieve the structure you want through #hashtags, e.g.,
#meetings #2018 #april for all Topics related to the meetings in April, 2018
#meetings #2018 #may for all Topics related to the meetings in May, 2018

The number of hashtags is quite manageable:
months = 12
meetings = 1
years = 1 per

Well, maybe there is a reason for sub-groups - getting posters to practice the discipline of using the right hashtags. But then you will have the same problem getting them to post in the right subgroup. Fixing hashtags is probably a lot easier for the admin than moving posts between subgroups.

Searching for connections among different months will be much easier if all the messages are in the same group. You cannot search across all subgroups.

Now there might be some enhancement along the lines of Categories that would help structure your content but for both subgroups of subgroups and Categories you will have to wait. What you have to work with, in addition to hashtags, are Databases, Wiki pages and structured naming patterns for Topics. I think you should explore further what you can do with the current features - no waiting. 


moderated Change ownership on files and photos

William Finn
 

It would be nice to have the ability to change ownership on files, folders and photo albums as people change roles and if the data is for a specific role in an organization then assigning a new owner would mean we wont have to open up access to all members of a group

Liam


moderated Re: Lock Profile Display Names

Jeremy H
 

I can understand the desirability of - and would support - an option that only group owners, and authorised moderators, can change display names - even if I wouldn't necessarily use it for my groups.

And I would say that it is down to each group owner to decide whether he has any standard for them, in including (or excluding) real (or fake) names, and whether he requires to know the real names (or any other details) of members. And that it is his privilege to do so, for his group. As it is my right to not provide them, and not be a member of his group.

Jeremy 

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