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moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Mark,

             Aren't all of the same links supposed to be in the plain text footer, but as label - link pairs, as you can't do click through?

             It makes no sense to me to do this for two of them but not the rest.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 04:37 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
moderate all messages of every topic this person starts
Since a "moderated topic" is used elsewhere, I would keep it as is and not make this change.
 
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

 

Bob,

The 'good footer' email you sent is an HTML email and the 'bad footer' email you sent is a plain text email. If you always want the consistent footers, I suggest changing your group to Force HTML Emails, if you like the HTML footers, or PlainTextOnly if you want the plain text footers.


Mark

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:49 PM Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:
Brian, I just sent Mark at the support email address both the good and the wacky headers.
This time the two differing fonts held true so hopefully that will provide a clue.
 
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

Bob Bellizzi
 

Brian, I just sent Mark at the support email address both the good and the wacky headers.
This time the two differing fonts held true so hopefully that will provide a clue.
 
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

 

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:38 PM Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:
No Mark,
The links are different.  I can send a real copy to support@groups.io for you

Hmm. Can you send me the emails to my corp address? In Gmail, use 'Show Original' for each email to view the raw email. Copy that into a new email and send it to me.

Thanks!
Mark


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

Bob Bellizzi
 

No Mark,
The links are different.  I can send a real copy to support@groups.io for you
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 06:35 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

I've just added the following two post status overrides:

  • Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts
  • Override: moderate all topics started by this person
Assuming my interpretation is correct, might I suggest rewording the second override as follows.

  • Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts
  • Override: moderate all messages of every topic this person starts

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Gerald


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I do not think so, but what would you have me (or anyone) do to test this?

I found this on the NVDA group, and when I went to individual message subscription I never changed between plain text and full-featured.  And checking just now, I can't recall or find how to change between plain text and full featured under Subscription, even looked under Advanced.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

 

Is this just a case of some emails being plain text and others being HTML?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:22 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Bob,

          Thank heaven someone else is experiencing this.   For the longest time I had never encountered a Groups.io e-mail message that did not have what I call the "standard footer collection" at the bottom.  Suddenly, on at least one group, and possibly more (I only turn on individual messages for testing periods - I use the web interface) it's doing precisely what you describe.

           I have submitted a support ticket on this, and what I copied in as examples is virtually identical to what you've offered here, down to and including the "-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-" as the separator bar.

           Something's going wrong somewhere.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


moderated Re: Footer variations in individual emails

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Bob,

          Thank heaven someone else is experiencing this.   For the longest time I had never encountered a Groups.io e-mail message that did not have what I call the "standard footer collection" at the bottom.  Suddenly, on at least one group, and possibly more (I only turn on individual messages for testing periods - I use the web interface) it's doing precisely what you describe.

           I have submitted a support ticket on this, and what I copied in as examples is virtually identical to what you've offered here, down to and including the "-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-" as the separator bar.

           Something's going wrong somewhere.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

Yay! Thanks, Mark. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've just added the following two post status overrides:

  • Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts
  • Override: moderate all topics started by this person

Please let me know if you see anything strange.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Footer variations in individual emails

Bob Bellizzi
 

I'm sure that one of Beta's gurus can tell me why this is occurring:
A member called attention to the two variations of email footers she receives; sometimes on message from the same person:
Using a standard Member subscription, I've monitored individual email delivery over more than one week and have checked more than 50 messages.  About one in 4 or 5 show the aberrant footer.
It would seem that this first footer type is the most desirable for email replies since it has Mailto link(s)
I've removed the links for privacy.  The footer is preceded by a line of underscore  ___________
View/Reply Online (#159506) | Reply To Group | Mute This Topic | New Topic
 
Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe 

The "other" set of links doesn't provide mailto links and is even in a different font and the separator line looks like a chain
(Note that I used notpad to remove the actual link contents so the font in not the original font in either case.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online (#159480): https://groups.io/g/FuchsFriends/message/159480

Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/25717093/80597

Group Owner: FuchsFriends+owner@groups.io

 

Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/FuchsFriends/leave/.................... 

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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Activity Log Anomaly

 

Am reading messages chronologically and just saw Duane's. That's probably a better description of the plan, since it's not going to be a notification per se.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Activity Log Anomaly

 

That's going to be a part of the "notification overhaul."


On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:29 AM Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mark; I don't think this has been raised before, but if it has then I apologise...

There is an anomaly in what appears (or more correctly doesn't appear) in the Activity Log, illustrated by this very recent example.

  1. A potential member sent in an inadequate response to the Pending Subscription Message.
  2. I initiated a follow - up enquiry to the applicant from the web UI, which resulted in...
  3. The prospective member sent in a much better response, to which...
  4. I replied using the "Reply" function on the message stored in the Activity Log generated by 3. 

Numbers 1 & 3 above resulted in entries appearing the Activity Log, but numbers 2 and 4 did not.

This seems wrong; should it ever be necessary it is impossible to follow an audit trail where one half of the exchanges are not logged - not even their existence, never mind the content. The "Actions List" includes Messages to +owner but there is nothing listed (as far as I can see) for Messages sent by Owner.

Is this "missing action" deliberate or an oversight? IMHO it would be much better if both sides of any exchange appeared in the Activity Log.

Regards,

Chris


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated icon for private-reply topics #suggestion

 

Moderated and locked topics are clearly shown onlist by their icons. But the fact that a topic is private-reply only can't be seen until someone tries to reply. I've been using a hashtag #private-replies-only to mark such threads, but it occurred to me that perhaps there could be an icon for this. I don't know what form the icon would take.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Activity Log Anomaly

Chris Jones
 

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 03:56 PM, Duane wrote:
This has been brought up before. 
Duane; thanks for that. At least it is on a list... somewhere. :)

Chris


moderated Re: Activity Log Anomaly

Duane
 

Chris,

This has been brought up before.  There's even an entry on the TODO list to cover it, https://trello.com/c/dIIABeqs/150

Duane


moderated Activity Log Anomaly

Chris Jones
 

Mark; I don't think this has been raised before, but if it has then I apologise...

There is an anomaly in what appears (or more correctly doesn't appear) in the Activity Log, illustrated by this very recent example.

  1. A potential member sent in an inadequate response to the Pending Subscription Message.
  2. I initiated a follow - up enquiry to the applicant from the web UI, which resulted in...
  3. The prospective member sent in a much better response, to which...
  4. I replied using the "Reply" function on the message stored in the Activity Log generated by 3. 

Numbers 1 & 3 above resulted in entries appearing the Activity Log, but numbers 2 and 4 did not.

This seems wrong; should it ever be necessary it is impossible to follow an audit trail where one half of the exchanges are not logged - not even their existence, never mind the content. The "Actions List" includes Messages to +owner but there is nothing listed (as far as I can see) for Messages sent by Owner.

Is this "missing action" deliberate or an oversight? IMHO it would be much better if both sides of any exchange appeared in the Activity Log.

Regards,

Chris


moderated Re: groups.io security

Michael Pavan
 

I think you can moderate just one person. Go to Members. Select the member. Change their posting privilege.
Only Owners and empowered Moderators can moderate individual members


Posting Privileges
Use Group Moderation Setting
Override: not moderated
Override: moderated
Override: new user moderated
Override: not allowed to post

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