RE: "Second, you're already grandfathered in, as I understand it." Again, being "already grandfathered" would be inconsequential, if a $2.50 paywall was added in front of us.

I thought of that and immediately blew it off. This whole idea pits groups against each other. "This one is free," "that one charges," etc. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author,

First of all, I'm not in favor of Drew's "everyone pays $2.50" proposal. I just think it's heaps better than Samuel's proposal where you have to pay to get into a group if you've over the group limit.

J, I was going to suggest that perhaps there should be a plan that includes no free slots, for group owners of your persuasion. But there's a numeric question that comes into play: In Mark's original

"Everyone" paying $2.50 is not better for "everyone". Please, each group has different circumstances. I don't want a $2.50 user paywall added to access my group. It will die. And I suspect that many

If the new price changes reflect the cost of doing business. large, free lists like mine will not be grandfathered forever, I plan on in two or three years having to become a paid list or

Right. IMO too complicated, both logistically and politically/psychologically. Better for everyone to pay the yearly $2.50 completely unrelated to any specific group. Drew's suggestion. --

J, In my opinion: no refunds. The site would say that before you pay (we're talking about $2.50 here). Others have suggested that Groups.io have a generous no-questions-asked refund policy. I'm fine

What happens when a group’s member count is at its free limit, a member pays for a year’s worth of groups.io specifically to get into that group, and a week, a day, or an hour later the group

My mistake but in another situation with another group, something like that might happen if some groups had free slots left while other groups of the same nature didn't. Most people would look for the

I think the ability to pay your way through is worse. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human

Leeni, To me, the alternative (Mark's Pricing Changes alone) does not seem preferable: "I am going to do a search for kitty groups and maybe I can join one. Why should I have to wait around to see if

Leeni, I think that’s a slightly diffrent issue. People would be unable to join any group after it has reached its limit even under Mark’s proposal.it’s not a matter of paying to join the group

To add to that.......... "I am going to do a search for kitty groups and maybe I can join one for free. Why should I have to pay for XYZ Kitty group when there are others with probably many of the

And BTW, this happens all the time. It's one main way people find out about a lot of the cats groups. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is

Glenn gets it right here. And imagine the confusion, if not anger. “I just joined the xyz kitties group, it’s great, highly recommended.” They post this within another group, and members of that

This should be fixed now. Thanks, Mark

Relying on people to not conspire with each other is not a safe approach. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity Best, Glenn -- PG&E

Thanks for the explanation, Mark. Sparked a few questions in GMF. The system still needs a little tweaking. See attached screenshot on what I get when the viewport is exactly 1239. Bruce

p.s. You think people don't talk to each other? At least in the cats groups world, and no doubt in other universes as well, people are always yabbing to each other about which group they just joined,