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Re: the fix to including sigs in text went too far ?
Hi All,
We now collapse quoted parts in bottom post messages (where the reply comes at the end of the message).
Cheers,
Mark
Hi All,
We now collapse quoted parts in bottom post messages (where the reply comes at the end of the message).
Cheers,
Mark
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Mark Fletcher
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
Re the proposed separate addresses: I feel doing that would greaten, not lessen, the need for documentation, and would actually lesson backward compatibility. If you just use +Admin, and set the
Re the proposed separate addresses: I feel doing that would greaten, not lessen, the need for documentation, and would actually lesson backward compatibility. If you just use +Admin, and set the
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J_Catlady
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#21923
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
I would not disagree at to the desirability of separate +Owner and +Admin addresses, for the different functions that they imply: but because we are where we are, with +Owner being used when +admin
I would not disagree at to the desirability of separate +Owner and +Admin addresses, for the different functions that they imply: but because we are where we are, with +Owner being used when +admin
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Jeremy H
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#21922
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
p.s. Documentation changes are already needed anyway. People are generally very confused about who gets and can send +Owner messages currently.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author,
p.s. Documentation changes are already needed anyway. People are generally very confused about who gets and can send +Owner messages currently.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author,
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J_Catlady
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#21921
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
I don't think they would have to. If you set up the defaults right, groups that want to make desired changes can do so.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy
I don't think they would have to. If you set up the defaults right, groups that want to make desired changes can do so.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy
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J_Catlady
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#21920
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
I don't like changes that would require all groups that are using the +owner as a general catchall to have to make configuration and documentation changes. In other words, I would want to see
I don't like changes that would require all groups that are using the +owner as a general catchall to have to make configuration and documentation changes. In other words, I would want to see
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Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
The “owner only” suggestion is taken care of by making it a general admin address and applying permissions accordingly. I would not over complicate this.
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Messages are the sole opinion of
The “owner only” suggestion is taken care of by making it a general admin address and applying permissions accordingly. I would not over complicate this.
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Messages are the sole opinion of
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J_Catlady
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#21918
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
My interpretation is that the +Owner feature was implemented as a preference with the purpose of implementing an "Admin" group where prospective or subscribed members could make inquiries to the
My interpretation is that the +Owner feature was implemented as a preference with the purpose of implementing an "Admin" group where prospective or subscribed members could make inquiries to the
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Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
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#21917
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
Sorry, I keep erroneously saying the Owner Messages page is under the Notes page. Of course, it’s not. It’s separate.
Also, since the ability to reply to the messages exists from that page, the
Sorry, I keep erroneously saying the Owner Messages page is under the Notes page. Of course, it’s not. It’s separate.
Also, since the ability to reply to the messages exists from that page, the
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J_Catlady
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#21916
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
I think it’s too bad that these are called +Owner messages (on either side of the coin) rather than something like +Admin messages, when sometimes mods who may not be owners can send and/or receive
I think it’s too bad that these are called +Owner messages (on either side of the coin) rather than something like +Admin messages, when sometimes mods who may not be owners can send and/or receive
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J_Catlady
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#21915
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
To start, there are two things which any discussion on this subject has to start from:
1) Sending and receiving '+owner' messages are two sides of the same coin.
2) Within groups.io, 'Moderator' can
To start, there are two things which any discussion on this subject has to start from:
1) Sending and receiving '+owner' messages are two sides of the same coin.
2) Within groups.io, 'Moderator' can
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Jeremy H
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#21914
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
I suggest:
1) That +owner messages should only be able to be sent by an Owner or Moderator that WILL receive replies to those messages.
2) If an Owner or Moderator later sets themselves to not
I suggest:
1) That +owner messages should only be able to be sent by an Owner or Moderator that WILL receive replies to those messages.
2) If an Owner or Moderator later sets themselves to not
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Michael Pavan
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#21912
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Re: Sending messages as +owner
#suggestion
Yes, my oops.
I apparently had two drafts open and sent the wrong one. Tried to correct by deleting that post and trying to send the correct one. The delete worked, but trying to send another draft of
Yes, my oops.
I apparently had two drafts open and sent the wrong one. Tried to correct by deleting that post and trying to send the correct one. The delete worked, but trying to send another draft of
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Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
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#21911
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Re: +Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
I think it should be a preference *and* a permission. First, a permission by the owner (does the owner want this mod to be privy to all owner messages), and if so, a preference by the mod (does that
I think it should be a preference *and* a permission. First, a permission by the owner (does the owner want this mod to be privy to all owner messages), and if so, a preference by the mod (does that
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J_Catlady
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#21910
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+Owner Email a Preference or a Permission?
Starting a new thread here, as we've digressed enough already, and I regret having contributed to that.
I agree with Shal's comment above. One advantage of having +owner email delivery be a preference
Starting a new thread here, as we've digressed enough already, and I regret having contributed to that.
I agree with Shal's comment above. One advantage of having +owner email delivery be a preference
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Bruce Bowman
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Re: Sending messages as +owner
#suggestion
That's right but they already have access to members' owner emails via the Notes page. I was trying, and am still trying, to make access to the Notes page a specific permission. I'm not sure what
That's right but they already have access to members' owner emails via the Notes page. I was trying, and am still trying, to make access to the Notes page a specific permission. I'm not sure what
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J_Catlady
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#21906
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Re: Sending messages as +owner
#suggestion
J. wrote: “Well, I’m in a group where I can change my own owner-email preferences and absolutely don’t have permission to set anybody’s privileges. Maybe your question should not have been
J. wrote: “Well, I’m in a group where I can change my own owner-email preferences and absolutely don’t have permission to set anybody’s privileges. Maybe your question should not have been
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Victoria
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#21905
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Re: Sending messages as +owner
#suggestion
And if you think about it, as I said (and Shal implied) before, this makes sense. Every mod has unrestricted access to every member’s owner emails via the member’s Notes page, whether they choose
And if you think about it, as I said (and Shal implied) before, this makes sense. Every mod has unrestricted access to every member’s owner emails via the member’s Notes page, whether they choose
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J_Catlady
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#21903
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Re: Sending messages as +owner
#suggestion
Well, I’m in a group where I can change my own owner-email preferences and absolutely don’t have permission to set anybody’s privileges. Maybe your question should not have been
Well, I’m in a group where I can change my own owner-email preferences and absolutely don’t have permission to set anybody’s privileges. Maybe your question should not have been
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J_Catlady
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#21901
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Re: Sending messages as +owner
#suggestion
Actually, my question was rhetorical. I am saying that a Moderator does not have the ability to change what Owner messages they receive unless they have the "Set Moderator Privileges". There may be
Actually, my question was rhetorical. I am saying that a Moderator does not have the ability to change what Owner messages they receive unless they have the "Set Moderator Privileges". There may be
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Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
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#21900
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