Ok, I see. One missing link seems to be that if you're logged in, there IS no "join page" like there is when you're logged out. If you're logged in, all you can do is click on the "apply for

The key here (as per the subject line) is whether you are logged in or not. Here's the corresponding URL in a group you're not a member of, so you can practice:

Just mystified, so I checked again. The code does contain the word "join," but seems to be the action ("join group") rather than a URL. If you change the word "join" in Bruce's original link to

Wait a minute, that can't be right. The actual code has "join." Obviously my fact-checking is deficient. I'm staying out of this. :)-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the

Thanks, Duane. In that case it seems the actual URL has "joined" but the button says "join" so one of them needs to be changed.-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy

I checked the page source and it uses the word join on the button. Duane

I mean, since that one doesn't take you to the right place, and since you can't see what the apply-to-group URL is without actually going there by clicking on the button. -- J Messages are the

Ok. I am checking my "fact checking" right now: How and where are you getting to the apply-to-group URL with the word "join"? -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy

That URL only shows up if you have *already* applied to join. Please check your fact-checking. Bruce

Well, I just checked and the URL has the word "joined," not "join." So maybe one of those has to change. (To the owner of TeaneckShul: I didn't mean to apply to your group! That was just a test! Your

For Restricted groups the button text on the home page changes but the URL is no different. So I don't think that's it. Regards, Bruce

Or maybe it's because for a restricted group, the link is to "apply for membership," not "join"?-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is bound up

Bug. Wasn't there something about a recent change to the naming scheme? Wonder whether it could be the result of that.-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My

If you attempt to send a message to a group that you're not [yet] subscribed to, an error message is returned. It says, in part: >>> groupname@groups.io (reading confirmation): 510 5.1.1 Your email

While trying to test the remove members API, I wasn't able to because I needed permissions. However, under users, I do not see a way to update a users permission. I do not see an object called

Where is the documentation for this? How can I tell if I have this? Could we put a link so I know right away when trying to use https://groups.io/api#direct_add that I need permission and find out

Yes I would prefer the default to be OFF, as hashtags should be an option to choose rather than a nuance to turn off. Again, hashtags, especially automatic hashtags, should be turned ON rather than

I'm wondering if it would be possible to make the Active Topics and Top Hashtags sections optional as part of the group settings. In the General area of the Settings page, these could be included at

Thank you Shal.

Mark, I definitely prefer having the group "names" in the dropdown. I think part of what makes the added Titles in the Groups page seem cluttered is that, in groups with subgroups, the subgroup name