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locked Re: New Subscription Options

 

Email delivery would be clearer if "Daily digest" was "Daily digest + Special notices" said "Special notices will still be received individually"



locked Re: Auto-Login On Invite

 

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:50 PM, JohnF via GROUPS.IO <user+1242@groups.io> wrote:

This is nice in one sense, as it makes it easy to join groups in response to invitations.  One complaint over at Yahoo Groups is that some people can't figure out how to manage invitations, why is why they're always asking for the direct add feature back.  I assume here at Groups.IO, that if an invited person didn't already have an account set up, that person would be guided through the process, upon clicking the link, right?

Correct. If you don't yet have an account, you're asked to create a password, and an account is created as part of the invite process. If you do have an account, and if you're logged in as that person, it just asks you for your subscription preference. If you are logged in as a different person than the invite was for, you're logged out and asked to log in (or create a password if the other person doesn't have an account).

If the invite is for an existing account, you are automatically logged in. This is a security risk if someone else gets your invite email, which would have to be through some man in the middle attack, or from you forwarding your invite email after you received it. Seems a small risk.

I've thought about other instances along the same line. It'd be really great if the Unsubscribe link in the email footers was a one click unsubscribe, regardless of whether you were logged in or not. But I don't think that's safe.

Mark


locked Re: New Subscription Options

 

Mark,

I also put Auto Follow Replies under Following Only, because that's
the only option that applies to it.
I note that a checkmark there disappears (leaving an empty gray box) when you click "All Messages", and does not reappear when you click "Following Only" again. Same if you click "No Email" and then click "Individual Messages" again.

There's a minor issue that I'd prefer that the prior state be retained when one switches and switches back.

The more major issue is that I think "Auto Follow Replies" is a useful option for members that have selected "Special Notices Only" or "No Email" because they prefer reading messages via the "Followed Threads" tab in their Groups.io Inbox. That's the use case that makes me think it should be broken out as a stand-alone option, unaffected by Email Delivery or Message Selection.

That's assuming the necessary changes are made to the Follow/Mute affordances so that one can manage one's Followed Threads without receiving email.

Unless I've completely misunderstood.

-- Shal


locked Strange Bug in creating a Wiki Page Title

Ellen
 

I successfully added new pages in the wiki in our CLLSLL +Mods group. I created a new page called "Newly Diagnosed", pasted in the text I wanted, and saved the page. I went to the Pages, submenu and selected that newly created page. However, when I went to open it, the Home Page of the Group opened instead. 

I renamed the page. Pasted text, but the same thing happened. Then I created a couple of new pages with a few words of text. Those pages saved and opened as expected. I suspected the problem was with the text I pasted in. Originally the text was in RTF format. Then I pasted into Word. Then created a pdf. None of these worked.

I think I just figured it out. I wanted the name of the page to be Newly Diagnosed?.  Looks like you cannot put a question mark in the Title of the page.



locked Re: New Subscription Options

 

I've updated the mockup. 


I added a Special Notices Only delivery option. I also put Auto Follow Replies under Following Only, because that's the only option that applies to it. I also changed the wording of several options based on your feedback. And now it grays out options that aren't applicable.

Please check it out and let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Remove moderation from new users #suggestion

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

I think the "approve message and remove moderation" button should also appear on the pending posts page.  I don't have a pending message at the moment, so don't remember the exact wording.  As it is now, I have to click on the message title before that option shows up.


Good idea. I've added it.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Yet another bug #bug

Duane
 

On our groups, I'm known for finding things that don't want to be found. Looks like it works here, too. ;>)

Thanks,
Duane


locked Re: Glitch in Members

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I noticed that the sorting info says User, but it's really using and sorted by Full Name.  So far, the only place that I see my User Name show up is on my profile page.

I just changed it from User to Name.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Yet another bug #bug

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

I created a test group named QuickTest.  Then I went in and changed my role from Owner to Member and saved.  Now there's no owner of the group.  Nothing in it, so it should be deleted, otherwise it could become a spam haven.  There needs to be some sort of check to make sure that there's always at least one owner.

Yipes. I have checks in the code to prevent this kind of thing, but you found the one place that wasn't protected. I've fixed that, and will delete that group. 

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Another couple of bugs #bug

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I think I've found a couple more little gremlins.  When I look at my profile, I see the public groups that I'm subscribed to.  I also see a subgroup I created that's in a private group, with the letter M after it.  None of the private groups themselves show up.  The subgroup is public to the parent group..

If I click on any of the groups shown, it sends me to the site home page https://groups.io/ instead of the group. All the links start with https://groups.io/group/ instead of https://groups.io/org/groupsio/


Gack! That's some dusty code. I've fixed the URLs and subgroups will no longer be displayed.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Date/Time on messages #suggestion

Frances
 

Hi

Facebook just has 1 hour. No date or time.
If you put time, I guess you need to put the initials of the time zone!
Would you need to select this when you set up your group?

Frances

On Jan 21 15, at 11:01 AM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote:

I think there's value to that idea. It let's the reader quickly compare the time of the post rather than both being '3 hours ago'.

Dano



locked Re: Edited Messages

 

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

Since Compare Revisions is the only action available with the Revisions
list, perhaps having the first and last revisions checked by default
would be handy.

Good idea. I've just pushed this change for both message revisions and wiki page revisions.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Date/Time on messages #suggestion

 

I think there's value to that idea. It let's the reader quickly compare the time of the post rather than both being '3 hours ago'.

Dano


locked Re: Group archive visibility (was Find Group listing) #suggestion

 

I've started dating my Yahoo! Group's description any time I make a change
to it. That way anyone stumbling upon it in the directory is able to see
that it was under active human control within the past few weeks. But
that's more of a Yahoo! Groups problem than one I'd expect to find here.


locked Date/Time on messages #suggestion

Duane
 

It's probably just me, but I'd prefer to see a Date/Time on messages, whether in the site Inbox or in a group's archives, instead of X minutes ago or Y days ago. Seems to make it easier for me to keep things straight.

How do others feel?

Duane


locked Remove moderation from new users #suggestion

Duane
 

I think the "approve message and remove moderation" button should also appear on the pending posts page.  I don't have a pending message at the moment, so don't remember the exact wording.  As it is now, I have to click on the message title before that option shows up.


Thanks,

Duane



locked Yet another bug #bug

Duane
 

I created a test group named QuickTest.  Then I went in and changed my role from Owner to Member and saved.  Now there's no owner of the group.  Nothing in it, so it should be deleted, otherwise it could become a spam haven.  There needs to be some sort of check to make sure that there's always at least one owner.


Duane



locked Re: Glitch in Members

Duane
 

I noticed that the sorting info says User, but it's really using and sorted by Full Name. So far, the only place that I see my User Name show up is on my profile page.

Duane


locked Another couple of bugs #bug

Duane
 

I think I've found a couple more little gremlins. When I look at my profile, I see the public groups that I'm subscribed to. I also see a subgroup I created that's in a private group, with the letter M after it. None of the private groups themselves show up. The subgroup is public to the parent group.

If I click on any of the groups shown, it sends me to the site home page https://groups.io/ instead of the group. All the links start with https://groups.io/group/ instead of https://groups.io/org/groupsio/

Duane


locked Update on IO Progress

Nightowl >8#
 
Edited

Hey all,

Just want to update a few things I had started and haven't finished in regard to this site.

First, I've finally read every message, but only replied to a few. Some others need a more detailed reply that requires my being able to think harder, so I am trying to respond to those tomorrow...(knock on wood). So I'm not ignoring anyone who posted in response to any of mine, I'm just not quite caught up.

Second, I have not had a chance to invite a lot of people over here yet, but I am still working on that. I've started rebuilding my team, (still some to get over here yet), and they are helping me with research and explanation. That is important for us to be able to relay the right info to the people who want to know what is available in Groups.io.

Last, I have not done a lot of publicizing of the site yet, for the same reason I have not been able to answer all replies. But I intend to spread the word about it, and still intend to talk to some of my media contacts and see if we can get Mark more publicity.

I want to end this post by saying that I am no less dedicated to the Yahoo Crusade issue and Groups issues, and that the Crusade isn't just to get Yahoo to change, it's more about Fight, Fix or Flee. Fighting Yahoo has about lost. Fixing Groups, well, they don't seem to be listening to us anymore.

That leaves "flee Yahoo" and this is looking like just the place to do that.  If you want to know more about the crusade and it's three parts, check out our group:

https://groups.io/org/groupsio/MMsanctuary/archives

Or our Blog: https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/

And if anyone wants my attention about anything and I don't appear to be actively posting, go here for my status:

https://groups.io/org/groupsio/owlperch/archives

Or you can post here or E-mail me directly with "Hey Owl, or Attention Owl" in the subject.

I won't post this info in Beta again unless someone directly asks me. But I want you to know that my absence of posting in here does not mean I'm not still as dedicated as ever to find our groups a new home, because I am.

Thanks,

Brenda

Nightowl >8#

(Edited to include Blog Link).