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locked Re: Calendar

Maria
 

Thank you Duane!

I'm not seeing a super easy way to select first ____ of each month (etc).

I wish it would actually allow you to set it up with that kind of setting without guess work. Like the Y! one does.

Yeah - i think the layout needs some work, and maybe it's not a size issue, as much as the overall design...?

Thanks for letting me know about the calendar file attached to event announcements.

Maria


locked Re: under "More," options have disappeared except "all posts by this member"

 

OTOH maybe it's because I was viewing my own posts previously, or other people's posts when viewing as group moderator, and now am viewing someone else's posts in a group where I'm not a moderator. If the "more" menu consists of only one thing, then I don't think it makes sense for this to be a dropdown. Let it just be the one thing. Perhaps need to reorganize? I notice that "Like" has moved around this morning. Or I'm hallucinating...I could have sworn I saw it under "More" a couple of hours ago.
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locked under "More," options have disappeared except "all posts by this member"

 

This is probably an "in process" thing...?
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locked Re: the word "Edited" on edited messages is overly prominent

 

Yes, that's ok with me, too, and agreed - remove the blue. In testversion it's much too prominent.
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locked Re: the word "Edited" on edited messages is overly prominent

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Also, the height of the status cluster is precisely the height of the avatar on the left, whether it's one that's been uploaded or a default one.  It's symmetrical about the vertical axis of the message display box as well.
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locked Re: the word "Edited" on edited messages is overly prominent

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

This is what I see:


Which is A-OK with me size and placement wise.  I don't think the "look at me blue" is necessary, though, but that's a separate issue.  The time-date-edited cluster is tucked in an unobtrusive location and collected together.


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locked Re: Two issues keeping track of off list messages quotes erase messages #bug

Jennifer Christian
 

YUCK!  I just wrote an entire reply, and then on a whim decided to try inserting a quoted message (since we've been talking about it).  Doing that ERASED my entire draft message.   That must be a bug!  And when I tried to "undo" my mistake, discovered there is no undo anywhere.  And, there's no "save" button for a message in the process of being drafted, so I couldn't have protected myself anyway. 

So, here's my recreated response:

1.  I must be using a different version, because both buttons (Send to Group, Send to Sender) are still blue.

2.  The issue is not button color;  it is REMEMBERING that I need to specify where the message goes.  Once I decide to send an off-list message and spend time writing it, I feel FINISHED (ready to get out of there, careless, uninterested) -- because I'm already thinking about my next thing.  So prompting first is MUCH SAFER.   If I later wish I had sent it to everyone, I can use the cc I receive for that purpose.

3.  After my mistake, I did send a "REAL" off list message and you're right, I did get a cc.  However, it doesn't show the screen name or address of the person to whom I sent it.  That is an important omission that needs to be corrected so I as the sender have an accurate/ complete record of my activities. 

Feeling ADMIRATION for Mark and the rest of you developer people.  soooooo many little lose threads to tie up!

Jennifer



locked Re: Calendar

Duane
 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:25 pm, HR Tech wrote:

1) can an event that repeats monthly be scheduled for the
first/second/third/last day within a month? Like the first friday of every
month... for example.
When you set up an event that repeats, you have the options of making it a certain day - 1st, 2nd, etc. - or day of the week (Mon, Tues, etc.) based on the first occurrence. If you set one on July 1st and selected Monthly, Day of Week, it should show up on the first Friday of each month. There may be a snag though. If I set one for July 30, repeat, monthly, day of week, it will schedule it for the 5th Saturday of each month. Not sure how it would handle it if there weren't a fifth Saturday. If you always kept it within the first 28 days, you'd be okay.


2) Can the layout of the calendar be enlarged so it doesn't look
squished/cramped on desktop?
I've gone back and forth on how that looks to me. I like having it smaller, but it does look a bit squished.


6) Can events be added to ical/google calendar etc? with a click? Maybe that's
already doable.
If you send out an Invite email for the event, it should have a calendar file attached that can be used.


Duane


locked Re: Two issues keeping track of off list messages

 

p.s. I'm looking at the different colors now and I think it's a distinction without a real difference. It's still just as easy to accidentally hit the wrong one, IMHO. I think it makes much more sense for the "reply to sender" choice to be made a priori. 
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locked Re: Two issues keeping track of off list messages

 

Duane is right. The copy is automatic; you don't have to check "bcc". (I was mixing that up with owner-generated messages.)
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locked Re: Two issues keeping track of off list messages

Duane
 

You probably hit Group instead of Sender. On the test version, which I'm using nearly all the time now, the send buttons are different colors, so that helps a lot. When you send a message to an individual, a copy is sent to your email, but not stored on-site.

Duane


locked Re: Two issues keeping track of off list messages

 

Jennifer,

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:33 pm, Jennifer Christian wrote:

So having been burnt, I would personally prefer to be prompted to specify whether this is a Reply All or Reply to Sender BEFORE I compose the message.

This has happened to so many members of my group, so many times, that I agree with you that selecting "Reply to Sender" before composing the message would be greatly preferable. 

where are the messages I've sent off-list kept? 

If you check the "bcc" box at the bottom, you will get a copy.

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locked Re: Two issues keeping track of off list messages

Jennifer Christian
 

Earlier today I went to the Beta group site on Groups.io and TRIED to send an off-list message.  I see it now in the message list on the Beta site.  How can I tell whether it went out to everyone or just to the person I intended to send it to?  I don't see a way.  Don't see a field for addressee.

1. If I DID forget to click "Send to Sender" below the message, and it went out to EVERYONE, that explains why it's in the message list.   Although I STARTED creating the message with the intention of an off-list message, I must have forgotten to LOOK for the Send to Sender button when I was done.  Thus it is awful easy to make a mistake.   So having been burnt, I would personally prefer to be prompted to specify whether this is a Reply All or Reply to Sender BEFORE I compose the message.   That's how it works in one list-serv I use.  Select recipient then write.

2. If I DIDN'T forget and my message really did go only to the individual I intended, why is it in the message list?   Which raises the question -- where are the messages I've sent off-list kept?   If I want a record of them, sounds like I need to GENERATE the message in my email system, not online.

A bit abashed,

Jennifer Christian


locked Calendar

Maria
 

I wanted to see if the calendar can be further enhanced on the new desktop and mobile version. Maybe others have ideas.

Here are  a few of mine:

1) can an event that repeats monthly be scheduled for the first/second/third/last day within a month? Like the first friday of every month... for example.

2) Can the layout of the calendar be enlarged so it doesn't look squished/cramped on desktop?

3) Can we see the title of each event on a day when there is more than one? Instead of having to click in to get the info

4) when we click on an event can it show the event consolidated (not sure how to describe) but basically, right now it opens up to a page that looks identical to when you create the event and I'd rather I can view it or edit it but not both at the same time. Would rather the event info be more condensed so it looks like a listing rather than a page I can enter info in to.

5) I know this is on the roadmap - but i'll throw it in here as part of the wishlist- can there be an RSVP to the event or to the event when it's sent as an invite?

6) Can events be added to ical/google calendar etc? with a click? Maybe that's already doable.

The calendar is something we plan to use a lot so the more user friendly and visually attractive it is the better.

Thank you!

Maria


locked Re: HUGE FONT IN THREAD TITLES!

Maria
 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:07 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've bumped up the font size on mobile back to 18px. On desktop it's at 17px.

I think both look great. 

Maria


locked Re: the word "Edited" on edited messages is overly prominent

 

Brian,

If you mean "as it's showing now" in the non-test version, then I agree. In testversion it's still too prominent, even with the extra line gone. It's all by itself in a line. That's wasted space and what's worse, makes the tag MUCH too prominent, etc. I would ditch this and go back to the old way. Or put it after all the hashtags.

The fact that a message was "Edited" is often (usually, I'd say) the *least* important characteristic about it. This placement makes it stand out as the most important. It draws the reader's eye, it's the last and most prominent thing in the text, etc. Writers know this. What you put at the end, the "bottom line," etc., is what draws attention and what the reader is left with. Perhaps the thought was to lessen its perceived importance by putting it at the end. But the effect is the opposite.

At minimum I'd put it after the author and date, in the same line. My first choice would be to just throw it in with the hashtags and minimize it. A middle ground would be to leave it as it is now in the non-test version.
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locked Re: Mark have you noticed this?

 

I always read email on my desktop email client, and always in plain text. I've
noticed Mark's replies always do this. It's something I've never seen from
anyone else in any context. Seems very odd behaviour.

Jim Fisher


On 30 Jun 2016 at 9:58, Jennifer Christian wrote:

You're right -- my settings were set to "plain digest" (not intentionally, mind
you). 

But don't we want things to be easy to read/understand for users whose ONLY
option is the  HTML-free version?

I don't understand why the < (which signals quoted material)  would ever
precede the first line of the "reply" text. 

Jennifer
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locked Re: the word "Edited" on edited messages is overly prominent

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I'm fine with the "Edited" tag, as it's showing now, in a cluster at the upper right with the original date and linkback link.

By the way, as I don't edit messages often at all due to the re-emailing of an edited message, is there any time limit on editing a message?  If so, what is it (or is that something that the group's moderator sets)?
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locked Re: HUGE FONT IN THREAD TITLES!

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:26 am, J_catlady wrote:
Still putting in a plea for 16 on desktop.

 Which I'll second.  If given my druthers what's there would be still a bit smaller.
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locked Re: HUGE FONT IN THREAD TITLES!

 

Still putting in a plea for 16 on desktop. It just jumps out at you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

I've bumped up the font size on mobile back to 18px. On desktop it's at 17px.

Thanks,
Mark

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