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Re: New Subscription Options
Frances,
Could "First Message Also" be greyed out if Following Only isn’tExactly what I intended to say, but jargon got in the way. By enable/disable I meant make the control active versus greyed out - I didn't mean to check or uncheck the box. -- Shal
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Re: New Subscription Options
Frances,
This is a checkbox, rather than a radio button. I assume you mustCorrect. It modifies "Following Only" - it isn't meaningful if you've selected "All Messages" (which Mark wrote as "All Email"). I had thought that users would be able to say, just send me the firstIt does do that if you aren't following any threads or hashtags (yet). But if you are you get those too. I don't think there's a use for getting First Messages in each thread but not the messages in threads or hashtags you've chosen to follow. Also “follow replies” - not sure the circumstances for this one.Only if you start or are the first one to reply to absolutely every thread (in some groups, maybe here, I'm probably thought to be "that guy"). But I'd normally select "All Messages" (aka "All Email") in most of my groups anyway. The use case is for someone who likes to use the "Followed Threads" list on the web, or the "Following Only" option by email. With this option checked they don't have to manually Follow threads they start or reply to. It is more likely, I suspect, that there is no actual use case for _not_ having it checked. -- Shal
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Re: Emailed messages Footer
On 1/19/2015 2:05 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
If a group is set to Plain Text Only, then any HTML is stripped out, andI thought that might be it - but I'm getting both from this group - I'm only subbed to beta. Your message that I'm replying to came through with the hyperlinks. Maybe it has to do with posting from the web vs replying to or starting a subject in email? My own email about this came back to me with the greyed text and the visible URL. Except for copying them in that message, I would not be leaving a footer on a message I send, btw. I strip it off if I'm replying to enough of the original that I quote all of it - but normally I use TBird's wonderful (and AFAIK unique) option to highlight a piece of the message before hitting reply and only having that show up quoted (as above). dg
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Re: Delivery Options
On 1/18/2015 6:23 PM, Frances wrote:
Great minds, and all that... 8-) dg
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Re: Emailed messages Footer
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:35 PM, CatWoman <diana@...> wrote: One other thing I noticed - sometimes I get the following, where ... and sometimes I get just the text as a hyperlink. It's because some emails are plain text only, and other emails are HTML emails. If a group is set to Plain Text Only, then any HTML is stripped out, and you wouldn't see different footers (or any HTML for that matter). Mark
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Re: New Subscription Options
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Could "First Message Also" be greyed out if Following Only isn’t selected? Frances
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Re: New Subscription Options
Frances,
Typo - first message ONLYNot a typo. It means "also", in addition to the messages in threads you are following. Getting the first message of each new thread is how you decide if you want to follow that thread (otherwise you'd have to go to the web site to find them). -- Shal
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Re: New Subscription Options
Mark,
I've taken Shal's suggestion, and created a mockup page, so we canThanks! I imagined "Individual Messages" and "All Messages" as the defaults (unless moderators get to choose the defaults), but I suppose the lack of any initial selection is an artifact of the mockup. The latter I think should be "All Messages", not "All Email", as this Option is about message selection. Maybe the former should be "Individual Emails - You will receive each message in an individual email." for consistency. I like Frances' re-wording "Daily Digest - Group messages together as one email instead of being sent individually." I imagined "First Message Also" being enabled only if "Following Only" is selected, to make that connection clearer. I'm not sure if having one control enable/disable another is done elsewhere in Groups.io, maybe it isn't part of the style book. Visually I'm not so happy with "Follow Replies" hanging there at the bottom. In a way it is a separate option, related to Message Selection but also distinct. Maybe it deserves a heading of its own, "Auto Follow" or something hinting that it is broader than just Message Selection for email - it also controls which threads appear in the "Followed Threads" list(s) on the web site. I note the absence of the "Special Notices" selection. At first thought maybe you've flip-flopped again, or just decided to keep them out of this discussion. On second thought, maybe it really isn't needed there - it is really a part of Message Selection. My reason for leaving it in the Email Delivery list was to serve the use case of a member going on vacation or otherwise wanting a simple way to temporarily suspend email delivery - while perhaps still picking up the Special notices. -- Shal
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Emailed messages Footer
One other thing I noticed - sometimes I get the following, where
the text is grey and there's a link after - View This Message (#917):https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/message/917and sometimes I get just the text as a hyperlink. Since I have TBird set to honor hyperlinks, in-line images, etc., I'm not sure where the "conversions" are happening, since I assume that it is something the software sticks on the message as it is "going out the door".
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"Your groups"
Hi Mark,
This label “Your Groups" is duplicated in the navigation, but used to access different information. On the black nav bar, it goes to a drop-down menu of your groups. In the Inbox, it goes to useful details of your groups - your role, whether moderated or not (“approvals needed”), group size, number of recent messages and your delivery option. I suggest you give these different labels. Perhaps keep “Your Groups” on the nav bar and use “Groups details” or something similar for the Inbox label. This will help people navigate better on the website. Frances
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Re: Bug in the Moderator Activity log
Thanks for the bug reports. All of these should be fixed now. Mark
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 4:40 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
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Re: Wiki Home Page Deletion?
Hi Duane, You were correct. It's odd because I really didn't see a link to delete the Home Page before. I saw the ones for the other pages. Strange, I obviously was not too focused on what I was doing. All is well now! Thanks again! Ellen
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Re: New Subscription Options
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Well, the email delivery looks right. Not sure about the other section - Message selection. First Message Also The first message of every thread is also emailed to you, except for hashtags you've muted. This is a checkbox, rather than a radio button. I assume you must select a radio button and the check box modifies it. I had thought that users would be able to say, just send me the first message of any new thread. This doesn’t do that, I think. Also “follow replies” - not sure the circumstances for this one. Isn’t that “all email”? Frances
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Re: New Subscription Options
Functionality - great. A couple of grammar changes needed, I think. Group messages together as one email instead of individually. Should be groups Might be clearer to say "being sent individually" Also. Every message in threads or hashtags you are following are emailed to you, except threads you've muted. (Special notices from the moderators are followed). Instead of "are emailed" should be "is emailed". Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:
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Re: New Subscription Options
Looks good. Typo - first message ONLY Not ALSO Frances Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 19, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Wiki Home Page Deletion?
Duane, I have a feeling that because I am a moderator and not an owner that I don't have that ability. However, I'll take a look again. I know I can delete other pages. Perhaps the Home Page can't be deleted. Thanks, Ellen
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New Subscription Options
I've taken Shal's suggestion, and created a mockup page, so we can discuss it. I haven't had a chance to think much about this yet. Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Glitch?
no problem! I will try again and see if it works :) KnyttWytch (so much to do, so little time!) http://www.knyttwytch.co.uk/tempewytchs-crafts-and-s/ http://www.knyttwytch.co.uk/tempewytchhealthyliving/ http://www.knyttwytch.co.uk/tempewytchrecipesdone/
On 19 January 2015 at 18:30, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Plain text replies to RTF posts?
I like the idea of adding an option to switch to plain text. I'll add it to the todo list. Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:14 AM, D R Stinson <dano@...> wrote: This is when sending a message to another group. specifically a post in Beta. I'm guessing all I can do is not add any graphic or text coding. In 'neo' (when it works) there's an option in the composition window to switch the message to plain text. Dano
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Re: Glitch?
Edited messages now have [Edited Message Follows] prepended to the top of the message. This does not appear in the archives, just in emailed messages. KnyttWytch, there was a bug that could have caused your edit to disappear. It's been fixed and I apologize for the problem. Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Knytt Wytch <dragonsteeluk@...> wrote:
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