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locked Re: Anyone tried the email integration feature?

 

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:09 PM, <dalemonator@...> wrote:
OK, now I see the point,  Very cool..  Seems like that address could be subbed to a meta-group as well, so that posts from a meta group go to the member group as well. 

We block messages from other groups, to prevent mail loops (subscribe one group to another, watch the fun begin).

Mark 


locked Re: What Does Five Integrations Mean?

 

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

At least for the time being, we don't plan to use any of the integrations.  However, Hangout always shows in the left bar.  Should they only show up if they're enabled?

Yep, that'd be more consistent. I've added it to the list.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Wiki Home Page Deletion?

Duane
 

I went to the Home page, clicked Edit, then clicked Delete at the bottom - page gone!  I didn't check to see if it would work the same on other pages, but expect it would.


Duane



locked Wiki Home Page Deletion?

Ellen
 

While I appreciate having the revision history in the wiki, we have a page in the history that we'd like to delete. Is it possible to delete a revision? Or even better, can we delete the home page and start over?

Ellen



locked Re: how to deal with bouncing

 

On 1/18/2015 5:24 PM, ro-esp wrote:

Sending out a test message once a month seems a bit overenthusiastic,
and should not be done when a regular message has been sent within the
last two months or so
I own lists on MailMan on 3 platforms - I think the "probe"
message options are monthly or never (will have to go look
it up).

dg


locked Re: Glitch?

 

Hmm I just tried to edit a message and I thought it had taken, but when you look at the message it is just the same

On 18 January 2015 at 23:10, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Dano,

> That's because I edited the reply to add a word. I like how
> edited messages show up in message view, but for some, it might be
> confusing to get a second message only a minute later.

Oh, good point.

I agree with you and Judy: the re-send of an edited message definitely needs some kind of marker. Maybe a subject-line tag like [edit] adjacent to the group tag. Maybe a note at the top of the message body, something like:

[Edited message follows.]

-- Shal







locked Re: Delivery Options

 

Frances,

So something to set the Daily Digest apart would solve the problem.
That's why my proposal groups the Email Delivery (individual, digest, special, or none) as a separate section from the Message Selection (all or followed).

Right now there is a default set for new members - All mail.

And frankly, I guess I don't understand the need for templates.
One of the things that had been requested, by moderators of particularly busy groups, was an ability to make members' initial setting be Digest rather than Individual - because new members to their groups were being overwhelmed and would immediately unsubscribe.

The template for new members would allow a group's managers to set whatever defaults make the most sense for new members joining the group, both for Email Delivery (and Message Selection) as well as for moderation of their posts.

-- Shal


locked Re: Special messages

 

Ronaldo,

Get real: the member who selects No Mail probably did so for a
reason, otherwise they would have selected Special Notices.
Well, yeah, but in yahoogroups, email-only members DID NOT HAVE that
choice, and still don't. "normal", "digest", "nomail" - that's it.
Huh, I keep forgetting that not all the options are available by email command. Glad I'm not the type to go removing members for selecting nomail.

-- Shal


locked Re: Delivery Options

 

Linda,

I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem
arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest. I
ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options
above -so I ticked No Email. When no Digest arrived, I thought there
was a bug, but it was my own fault.
I agree, that's what I find confusing about the current layout. It confuses two separate issues.

With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated
me to express my desire for simplicity.
Hmm... That's disappointing.

Hopefully it would be clearer if seen as live controls rather than just text in a message. The idea is that the choice between individual emails and digest isn't mixed together with the choices of what messages to receive.

Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription
options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion
"Membership Templates":
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549
If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my
members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
It means that you could choose delivery as Individual Messages and All Messages delivered, as the defaults for your members. It does not mean that you could hide controls from your members.

-- Shal


locked Re: Delivery Options

Frances
 

So he has!

Thanks, Linda.

Would a link from Profiles to this tab be overkill?

Frances

On Jan 18 15, at 9:38 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@thetravelzine.com> wrote:

Hi Frances,
What would be useful is a screen that shows Groups.io members what the delivery settings are for all of their groups.
Mark's thought of that already!
https://groups.io/groups

Linda





locked Re: Delivery Options

Linda
 

Hi Frances,
What would be useful is a screen that shows Groups.io members what the delivery settings are for all of their groups.
Mark's thought of that already!
https://groups.io/groups

Linda


locked Re: Delivery Options

Judy F.
 

I thought it was a very good solution also.  I think we are getting there. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Frances [mailto:travel@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 9:23 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

 

Sorry, Judy. I looked at the attached email and thought that was the one I was supposed to read.

 

Yes, Shal’s layout would work fine.

 

He separates How (individual, Digest, etc.) and What (all messages, following only).

 

Thanks!

 

Frances

 

 

On Jan 18 15, at 8:58 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

 

Frances, I don’t see anything about a template in the message I am referring to from Shal.  Here is the message #835.  He is just suggesting that the various options be rewritten to better explain things.  

 

Maybe I’m misinterpreting something in your messages.  

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Frances [mailto:travel@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:48 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

 

Hi

 

Yes, I read Shal’s email before I wrote mine. Templates might be fine in some circumstances.

But really the only confusing part of the delivery options is that a subscriber must make two choices if she wants Daily Digest.

It *does* make sense. I might want just the first email in a thread and want this to come as a daily digest.

 

However, because of the mixture of radio buttons and the check box and the layout, it isn’t clear. 

I remember that when I first looked at it I thought, oh, all mail - but I want daily digest. 

So something to set the Daily Digest apart would solve the problem.

 

Right now there is a default set for new members - All mail.

 

And frankly, I guess I don’t understand the need for templates. 

 

What would be useful is a screen that shows Groups.io members what the delivery settings are for all of their groups.

As an “owner”, I can go to Members and see what the delivery settings are all the members of my group.

 

For myself, if I want to see that, I must go to each group, click on Subscription and see the delivery settings.

But if I belonged to a lot of groups, wouldn’t it be nice to go to one page (In Profile, perhaps) and see the delivery settings for all my groups?

 

Some of us are thinking like subscribers and some like list-owners / moderators. Perhaps that’s why I don’t get the templates.

However, we want the same thing - simplicity. 

 

But we can do that by page layout, I think.

 

Frances

 

 

 

On Jan 18 15, at 7:45 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

 

Francis, I think Shal came up with a viable solution.  Don't know if Mark will use it, but hopefully he will.  

Go back through the messages and find that one from Shal, I know it was late yesterday (Saturday) that he sent it.  

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Frances [
mailto:travel@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:01 PM
To: 
beta@groups..io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

Hi

I just looked at the “join” page for a group.
There are radio buttons for the top options (all email, first email, etc.) and a checkbox for daily digest.
You are obliged to select a radio button. You may opt to tick the checkbox for daily digest.

That is confusing.  Perhaps a box around the Daily Digest section?

Frances



On Jan 18 15, at 6:32 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@...> wrote:

Hi Shal,


Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.


I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest.  I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email.  When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.



It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.


With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.



Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription 
options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion 
"Membership Templates": 
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549


If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
  All messages as single emails
  Digest
  No Mail except Special Notices

Linda















 

 


locked Re: Delivery Options

Frances
 

Sorry, Judy. I looked at the attached email and thought that was the one I was supposed to read.

Yes, Shal’s layout would work fine.

He separates How (individual, Digest, etc.) and What (all messages, following only).

Thanks!

Frances


On Jan 18 15, at 8:58 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Frances, I don’t see anything about a template in the message I am referring to from Shal.  Here is the message #835.  He is just suggesting that the various options be rewritten to better explain things.  
 
Maybe I’m misinterpreting something in your messages.  
 
Judy F.
SW Florida - USA
 
From: Frances [mailto:travel@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:48 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options
 
Hi
 
Yes, I read Shal’s email before I wrote mine. Templates might be fine in some circumstances.
But really the only confusing part of the delivery options is that a subscriber must make two choices if she wants Daily Digest.
It *does* make sense. I might want just the first email in a thread and want this to come as a daily digest.
 
However, because of the mixture of radio buttons and the check box and the layout, it isn’t clear. 
I remember that when I first looked at it I thought, oh, all mail - but I want daily digest. 
So something to set the Daily Digest apart would solve the problem.
 
Right now there is a default set for new members - All mail.
 
And frankly, I guess I don’t understand the need for templates. 
 
What would be useful is a screen that shows Groups.io members what the delivery settings are for all of their groups.
As an “owner”, I can go to Members and see what the delivery settings are all the members of my group.
 
For myself, if I want to see that, I must go to each group, click on Subscription and see the delivery settings.
But if I belonged to a lot of groups, wouldn’t it be nice to go to one page (In Profile, perhaps) and see the delivery settings for all my groups?
 
Some of us are thinking like subscribers and some like list-owners / moderators. Perhaps that’s why I don’t get the templates.
However, we want the same thing - simplicity. 
 
But we can do that by page layout, I think.
 
Frances
 
 
 
On Jan 18 15, at 7:45 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:
 
Francis, I think Shal came up with a viable solution.  Don't know if Mark will use it, but hopefully he will.  

Go back through the messages and find that one from Shal, I know it was late yesterday (Saturday) that he sent it.  

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Frances [
mailto:travel@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:01 PM
To: 
beta@groups..io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

Hi

I just looked at the “join” page for a group.
There are radio buttons for the top options (all email, first email, etc.) and a checkbox for daily digest.
You are obliged to select a radio button. You may opt to tick the checkbox for daily digest.

That is confusing.  Perhaps a box around the Daily Digest section?

Frances


On Jan 18 15, at 6:32 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@...> wrote:

Hi Shal,

Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.

I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest.  I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email.  When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.


It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.

With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.


Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription 
options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion 
"Membership Templates": 
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549


If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
  All messages as single emails
  Digest
  No Mail except Special Notices

Linda













 



locked Re: Delivery Options

Judy F.
 

Frances, I don’t see anything about a template in the message I am referring to from Shal.  Here is the message #835.  He is just suggesting that the various options be rewritten to better explain things. 

 

Maybe I’m misinterpreting something in your messages. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Frances [mailto:travel@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:48 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

 

Hi

 

Yes, I read Shal’s email before I wrote mine. Templates might be fine in some circumstances.

But really the only confusing part of the delivery options is that a subscriber must make two choices if she wants Daily Digest.

It *does* make sense. I might want just the first email in a thread and want this to come as a daily digest.

 

However, because of the mixture of radio buttons and the check box and the layout, it isn’t clear. 

I remember that when I first looked at it I thought, oh, all mail - but I want daily digest. 

So something to set the Daily Digest apart would solve the problem.

 

Right now there is a default set for new members - All mail.

 

And frankly, I guess I don’t understand the need for templates. 

 

What would be useful is a screen that shows Groups.io members what the delivery settings are for all of their groups.

As an “owner”, I can go to Members and see what the delivery settings are all the members of my group.

 

For myself, if I want to see that, I must go to each group, click on Subscription and see the delivery settings.

But if I belonged to a lot of groups, wouldn’t it be nice to go to one page (In Profile, perhaps) and see the delivery settings for all my groups?

 

Some of us are thinking like subscribers and some like list-owners / moderators. Perhaps that’s why I don’t get the templates.

However, we want the same thing - simplicity. 

 

But we can do that by page layout, I think.

 

Frances

 

 

 

On Jan 18 15, at 7:45 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

 

Francis, I think Shal came up with a viable solution.  Don't know if Mark will use it, but hopefully he will.  

Go back through the messages and find that one from Shal, I know it was late yesterday (Saturday) that he sent it.  

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Frances [
mailto:travel@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:01 PM
To: 
beta@groups..io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

Hi

I just looked at the “join” page for a group.
There are radio buttons for the top options (all email, first email, etc.) and a checkbox for daily digest.
You are obliged to select a radio button. You may opt to tick the checkbox for daily digest.

That is confusing.  Perhaps a box around the Daily Digest section?

Frances


On Jan 18 15, at 6:32 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@...> wrote:

Hi Shal,

Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.


I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest.  I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email.  When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.


It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.


With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.


Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription 
options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion 
"Membership Templates": 
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549


If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
  All messages as single emails
  Digest
  No Mail except Special Notices

Linda













 


locked Re: Delivery Options

Frances
 

Hi

Yes, I read Shal’s email before I wrote mine. Templates might be fine in some circumstances.
But really the only confusing part of the delivery options is that a subscriber must make two choices if she wants Daily Digest.
It *does* make sense. I might want just the first email in a thread and want this to come as a daily digest.

However, because of the mixture of radio buttons and the check box and the layout, it isn’t clear. 
I remember that when I first looked at it I thought, oh, all mail - but I want daily digest. 
So something to set the Daily Digest apart would solve the problem.

Right now there is a default set for new members - All mail.

And frankly, I guess I don’t understand the need for templates. 

What would be useful is a screen that shows Groups.io members what the delivery settings are for all of their groups.
As an “owner”, I can go to Members and see what the delivery settings are all the members of my group.

For myself, if I want to see that, I must go to each group, click on Subscription and see the delivery settings.
But if I belonged to a lot of groups, wouldn’t it be nice to go to one page (In Profile, perhaps) and see the delivery settings for all my groups?

Some of us are thinking like subscribers and some like list-owners / moderators. Perhaps that’s why I don’t get the templates.
However, we want the same thing - simplicity. 

But we can do that by page layout, I think.

Frances



On Jan 18 15, at 7:45 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Francis, I think Shal came up with a viable solution.  Don't know if Mark will use it, but hopefully he will.  

Go back through the messages and find that one from Shal, I know it was late yesterday (Saturday) that he sent it.  

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Frances [mailto:travel@...] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:01 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

Hi

I just looked at the “join” page for a group.
There are radio buttons for the top options (all email, first email, etc.) and a checkbox for daily digest.
You are obliged to select a radio button. You may opt to tick the checkbox for daily digest.

That is confusing.  Perhaps a box around the Daily Digest section?

Frances

On Jan 18 15, at 6:32 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@...> wrote:

Hi Shal,
Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.

I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest.  I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email.  When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.

It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.

With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.

Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription 
options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion 
"Membership Templates": 
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549

If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
  All messages as single emails
  Digest
  No Mail except Special Notices

Linda















locked how to deal with bouncing

ro-esp
 

From: CatWoman <diana@catsandme.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:50:16 PST

On 1/15/2015 8:32 AM, Jim Fisher wrote:
The system should not be too quick to remove memberships based on messages
bouncing,
That's the issue with YG - they have a bounce list, but
unless a mod or owner checks it regularly - or someone
complains about no longer receiving mail, the email is
effectively set to nomail.

What MailMan does is send out a message the 1st of every
month - just basically a reminder to the person that they
are subbed to the group (a special notice, in effect).
Bounce notices are sent to the owner address and I think
the person is set to nomail.

LSoft sends out an annual probe - but it will remove any
email that bounces more than <X> times (Since I no longer
run any LSoft lists, I can't remember if the value of X
is set by the list owner or the system admin).

What I'd like to see is something between MailMan and
Yahoo - don't wait for the special message - but don't
just stick the email in a bounce list. Send a notice
to the owner that mail to <email> is bouncing.
Yes, it would be nice if moderators got notified if a message doesn't reach its destination. maybe once a week or so.

Sending out a test message once a month seems a bit overenthusiastic, and should not be done when a regular message has been sent within the last two months or so

groetjes, Ronaldo

--
http://www.esperanto.net http://www.moneyasdebt.net


locked Re: Special messages

ro-esp
 

[replying from digest, bewcause I can't seem to find the quote-button onsite]

3a. Re: [beta] Re: Special messages
From: Shal Farley <shal@roadrunner.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:39:40 PST

Ronaldo,

As to Shal's suggestion, yes, it would be useful if the creator/owner of
a group could block the "nomail" option.
That was Duane's suggestion, not mine. I actually disagree.
I stand corrected


"No Mail" is a feature that perennially generates heated commentary on the various Yahoo Groups moderator forums. Some moderators are adamant about preventing members from choosing the option, some members are equally vehement in asserting that messing with the member's delivery choice is a violation of the member's prerogatives.

Personally I think both sides in this argument are a bit foolish.
I see what you mean

Get real: the member who selects No Mail probably did so for a reason, otherwise they would have selected Special Notices.

Well, yeah, but in yahoogroups, email-only members DID NOT HAVE that choice, and still don't. "normal", "digest", "nomail" - that's it.

5a. Re: Special messages
From: "Linda Star-Freedman" <donlin2@thetravelzine.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 04:41:41 PST

Hi,
What do you think about these mail options?
Please pay particular attention to the last one:

All Email
Every message is emailed to you.

First Message Only
The first message of every thread is emailed to you, along with all messages from threads you start. You can decide to receive additional messages from threads you're interested in.

Replies Only
Only messages in threads you start are emailed to you. On the website you can specify threads that will be emailed to you.

Daily digest:
Group messages together as one email instead of individually.

No Email
You will receive no emails except Special Notices.
That's what Mark says he's tempted to do. I could live with those settings, but still think it's VERY wrong to *call* it "nomail" when you still do get some messages.

My preference is still that the owner of a group can disable actual "nomail", especially if the type of group requires people to be reachable off-list. That may not be necessary in announcement-groups, but very practical in busy groups whose digests would become undigestable if people discuss all kinds of details on-list.

Periodical newsletters can be subscribed separately.

groetjes, Ronaldo

--
http://www.esperanto.net http://www.moneyasdebt.net


locked Re: Delivery Options

Judy F.
 

Francis, I think Shal came up with a viable solution. Don't know if Mark will use it, but hopefully he will.

Go back through the messages and find that one from Shal, I know it was late yesterday (Saturday) that he sent it.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Frances [mailto:travel@tansymews.ca]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:01 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Delivery Options

Hi

I just looked at the “join” page for a group.
There are radio buttons for the top options (all email, first email, etc.) and a checkbox for daily digest.
You are obliged to select a radio button. You may opt to tick the checkbox for daily digest.

That is confusing. Perhaps a box around the Daily Digest section?

Frances

On Jan 18 15, at 6:32 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@thetravelzine.com> wrote:

Hi Shal,
Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.
I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest. I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email. When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.

It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.
With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.

Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription
options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion
"Membership Templates":
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549
If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
All messages as single emails
Digest
No Mail except Special Notices

Linda





locked Re: Delivery Options

Frances
 

Hi

I just looked at the “join” page for a group.
There are radio buttons for the top options (all email, first email, etc.) and a checkbox for daily digest.
You are obliged to select a radio button. You may opt to tick the checkbox for daily digest.

That is confusing. Perhaps a box around the Daily Digest section?

Frances

On Jan 18 15, at 6:32 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@thetravelzine.com> wrote:

Hi Shal,
Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.
I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest. I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email. When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.

It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.
With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.

Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion "Membership Templates": https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549
If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
All messages as single emails
Digest
No Mail except Special Notices

Linda





locked Re: Delivery Options

Linda
 

Hi Shal,
Can you detail for us what you did wrong? A little background on the confusion might go a long way to helping Mark make the options clearer.
I already had an owner email address subscribed to All Mail. The problem arose when I subscribed another email address to receive the Digest. I ticked the Digest Box and I was forced to select one of the options above -so I ticked No Email. When no Digest arrived, I thought there was a bug, but it was my own fault.

It would also help me understand if the separation of Email Delivery from Message Selection that dg and I proposed is (sufficiently) clearer.
With all due respect, I found your suggestion so confusing, it motivated me to express my desire for simplicity.

Would it help if you were able to control the default Subscription options your members get when they join? cf my other suggestion "Membership Templates": https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/membership_templates/24549
If what you meant was that I could select these mail options for my members' default, I'm all for it (KISS):
All messages as single emails
Digest
No Mail except Special Notices

Linda