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locked Re: Facebook pages and Groups.io

Maria
 

I wanted to ask a question about this: when/if there will be integration with FB groups, how would that work? would it mean that you would see posts made in a FB group by authorized groups.io members in the groups.io group too? Or would it simply mean that a post made in groups.io would be automatically posted to the FB group?

Likewise with pages - does that mean that a post made by an admin in a FB page will automatically show up on the groups.io group?

We aren't able to test this in our test group yet. If anyone who has tested the FB page integration can chime in that would be great.

Maria


locked Re: "updates" no longer a required group, or can people unsubscribe from it?

Sue
 

I would certainly prefer that people weren't automatically added to the Beta group. I know they have the choice to opt out at sign-up but with the majority of people being new to Groups IO they may not notice or realise what it means. I know one of my fellow mods overlooked that option when she signed up.

Also I don't think most ordinary members would be that interested in what is discussed here, some of it would definitely go over the heads of most my members.

Sue


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

Sue
 

In my Yahoo Group I seach by message number occasionlly. If I'm searching for a message or a thread on a particular topic but my keyword search fails me (usually becuase it is from years ago and the memory grows dim), then I start searching by numbers, using them to narrow down my search and hone in on the message I want.
The good thing is it works and the bad thing is that I get sidetracked in reading interesting threads from over the 12+ years of the group <g>
Anyway my point is, I shouldn't like the message numbering to be removed, it can be useful.

Sue


locked Instagram integration

 

Hi All,

Instagram recently changed their API and, best I can tell, no longer allows services to use the API to display photos from anyone but the person who authorized the integration. They've also added new requirements for authorization. Usage of the integration is quite low, and the work involved to get it working again (in the new, much more limited fashion), is quite high, with no guarantee of us getting approval from them. So, I will be removing the Instagram integration option.

Mark


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

 

Brian,

I doubt that there are many users who do not use message view who even
know that message numbers exist. They're a weirdness as far as I'm
concerned, and when I've seen reference to them in the past my reaction
was, "What's that?
...
Also, for anyone "unwilling to trust a link sent in email" that's their
problem, not mine or any other poster's. I've had knock-down drag outs
on several of the groups here because people have had the inane idea
that "unmasked" URLs were somehow "safer" than ones using click-through
text and didn't like click-through text being used.
Perhaps you need to become more familiar with Groups.io's features and functions rather than being so churlish towards those with opposing opinions.

If one doesn't trust the source of the link then one shouldn't click it,
but if one does there's really no reason to believe that they'd include
a malicious link in a message that has seemingly been composed by them.
That's fine for sophisticated users like yourself who know to hover over the link to examine the URL, or who are confident in their ability to discern when a message really came from the person they think it did. But for others "seemingly" may give them pause, particularly given the prevalence of spoofed addresses and compromised accounts spreading messages with malicious links.

Shal, you really need to look up the meaning of "strawman."
FWIW I stand behind my assertion. You cited other's belief that the function is vital, then ridiculed the idea that "regular users" would recall message numbers. For that not to be a straw man argument the cited others would have had to have actually raised that as their justification for the feature.[1] As I said, I doubt that.

Shal

1: a weak or imaginary opposition (as an argument or adversary) set up
only to be easily confuted
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/straw%20man


locked Re: Directory #suggestion

Maria
 

That sounds amazing ;) We could really use something like that and it would work even better if it had a search feature. 

So lets say it's a directory for restaurants - it would have categories for food type, neighborhood, link/s to the message/s in which there is a review, and contact info/website, etc.

So If i wanted to search for restaurants in a given neighborhood that serve french food I'd select "french" from the category column and then a list of the French restaurants in the database would appear (only those?) with a google map above that has pins for each one on the list that you can hover over?

Maria


locked Re: Directory #suggestion

 

Maria,

Would it be possible for groups.io to have a geo-based business
directory that integrates with google maps, has categories and other
search criteria and ability for moderators ( or members) to plug in
listings?
Great suggestion. Yahoo Groups started down this path once with the "Groups Labs" features - those were essentially enhanced database tables but one of the available options was a location field, with a corresponding map view of the table.

In Groups.io terms that could be a GeoLocation column type, which if used in a table would enable a map view of the table -- pins for each row, with hover text for each pin showing the other fields.

Yahoo was using their own map product as the basis for the feature, but in Groups.io integrating this with Google maps makes a lot of sense.

This would be useful for groups where people recommend
providers/services to each other.
Yup.

Another use would be for members to voluntarily indicate their location (as in re-use groups). One of the features of Y!Groups implementation was a control over location precision. It was possible to pin something precisely (such as a storefront or other public location) or loosely (such as "I live in this neighborhood" - without revealing an exact location).

The listings could potentially be linked by admins to the message in
which a given service was discussed so that people could read why that
member recommended that service.
One could use the "Link" column type for that, I think.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

 

What does happen consistently for sure is that when I edit my own pending messages, my signature will appear twice unless I wipe out the second signature by hand. The second one appears during the editing process. 
--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

 

This is why I hadn't reported it yet. It doesn't seem to happen consistently. In some cases, in editing/approving my own posts in my group (I have myself on moderation in order to allow myself a full-screen edit before posting), I get my signature doubly added (a second one is added during the approval process). In a different group of mine (I just tested this), editing the pending post of a moderated member does not add my signature. In some cases, editing an already-approved post adds my signature and in some cases it doesn't. I was hoping that I could give Mark more information before sending him the bug. I have a suspicion that it might be somehow connected with the ellipses problem I'd already mentioned.(*)

(*) (Yes, it is still a problem, BTW. When I simply quote text in a message, even if the text is not from Groups.io, Groups.io's algorithm always hides it with an ellipsis if it is not inlined. For example, if I compose a message consisting solely of "The following is an excerpt from the textbook:" and after that give the quote, the text will not appear. It will instead be hidden with an ellipsis unless I allow my signature, or any other text, to follow it.)
--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

Duane
 

In my case, it was an already posted message.

Duane


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

Maria
 

Did this happen when editing a pending post or a post that had already been posted/approved?

Maria


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

 

Yes, I was about to report the same glitch.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

I was going to send this to Support, but thought others should be aware of it, so will post here. I edited a post this morning on one of my groups. I just now realized that it had attached my personal Signature when I did so. I went back in and removed it, but it shouldn't have happened on an edit, especially on someone else's post.

Duane


--
J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Editing Glitch #bug

Duane
 

I was going to send this to Support, but thought others should be aware of it, so will post here. I edited a post this morning on one of my groups. I just now realized that it had attached my personal Signature when I did so. I went back in and removed it, but it shouldn't have happened on an edit, especially on someone else's post.

Duane


locked Directory #suggestion

Maria
 

Would it be possible for groups.io to have a geo-based business directory that integrates with google maps, has categories and other search criteria and ability for moderators ( or members) to plug in listings?

This would be useful for groups where people recommend providers/services to each other.

The listings could potentially be linked by admins to the message in which a given service was discussed so that people could read why that member recommended that service.

Maria


locked Re: Problem with Search Function Plus a Request

weebeequilting <weebee.1@...>
 

Thank you Duane.  I never noticed those files search tips before.  You have saved me a lot of headaches.


Janice B

AZ


locked Is it possible to create a preview of a link? #suggestion

Maria
 

It would be nice if when we post the URL of a link the web interface automatically created a web preview of that link ( like facebook and Yahoo! do). This can be discarded when it doesn't make sense to have it (breaks up a paragraph too much) but could be nice for sharing articles and similar links in posts.

Maria



locked Re: Problem with Search Function Plus a Request

Duane
 

I tried using the + between words on a search. It did limit the results to posts where both words existed, but not always next to each other. Without it, the results were any file that had either word.

On the file search, hovering the mouse over the file name in the results will show the path to that file. You can also click on the file name to open it, which will show the path in the address bar.

Duane


locked Re: Problem with Search Function Plus a Request

Janice B <weebee.1@...>
 

When I use the Search feature and my term has multiple words, I use a plus sign between the words so that “it” knows I want those two words to be right next to each other in the search results.  I did one like that about an hour ago I needed to find the message that gave instructions on how to use a certain tension test and the term I used was tension+test and all results had those two words right next to teach other.   We generate a lot of messages about tension problems (we are long arm quilters using a robotic machine) and I would have gotten a gazillion hits about tension problems if I hadn’t used the “+” between the words.

 

On another vein but still about searching.  I would very much like it if when we are searching in Files and we get a hit if it could show the file folder the PDF or doc is located in.  I got a hit and all it told me was it was in Files which I already knew.  We have lots and lots of files—I would love to have been shown a directory of sorts showing the exact folder containing the file I was searching for.  I had to open a lot of folder before I found the file I needed.

 

Janice Bahrt

Retired School Librarian


locked Re: +owner Message Reply

 

On 4 Jun 2016 at 11:36, Duane wrote:

A few times now I've replied to a +owner Message using my own email
address because that's the one that gets chosen by default.
I would like to see g.io allow "listname+owner@groups.io" to post via
email.

Maybe the email would be held in moderation queue since the address
isn't technically a member of the group, but that's fine with me. With Y!G,
I could just send an email to the group with the From: spoofed to the
owner email. With g.io, I have to copy and paste it to the website, where I
can select the owner address as the From:

Just like everything else, it's much quicker to just send an email than to go
the site and post a message.

--
Jim
Poston@...

<< Crazy little thing called love. >>


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 02:22 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

and I'm not doubting that it is. That being said, most
"regular users" wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of
recalling a specific message number ...
That's a straw-man argument: I don't think anyone expects people to remember message numbers.

 Shal, you really need to look up the meaning of "strawman."  I doubt that there are many users who do not use message view who even know that message numbers exist.  They're a weirdness as far as I'm concerned, and when I've seen reference to them in the past my reaction was, "What's that?  Why not just provide the click through link."  If it's important enough to cite, it's important enough to give the reader a direct link to.  Utility to be broader audience should be a primary concern of a venue such as this one, and message numbers are, without doubt, not broadly utilitarian.  They can stay, I don't care about them, but you can't convince me that they have much broad utility at all.

Also, for anyone "unwilling to trust a link sent in email" that's their problem, not mine or any other poster's.  I've had knock-down drag outs on several of the groups here because people have had the inane idea that "unmasked" URLs were somehow "safer" than ones using click-through text and didn't like click-through text being used.  If one doesn't trust the source of the link then one shouldn't click it, but if one does there's really no reason to believe that they'd include a malicious link in a message that has seemingly been composed by them.  I'm not about to make a message more unreadable by including "naked" urls rather than including them in the via click-through text where the text makes quite obvious what the intent is.  I'm not an unknown after a while, and neither are "the regulars" on any forum or mailing list.

I really don't care, one way or another, whether message number is a separate box or not.  It could be argued that it's better that way because it establishes a very specific context and it's entirely possible for someone to use #[insert some memorable digit sequence here] in a post that someone might search on.
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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray