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locked Re: Directory #suggestion

Maria
 

That sounds amazing ;) We could really use something like that and it would work even better if it had a search feature. 

So lets say it's a directory for restaurants - it would have categories for food type, neighborhood, link/s to the message/s in which there is a review, and contact info/website, etc.

So If i wanted to search for restaurants in a given neighborhood that serve french food I'd select "french" from the category column and then a list of the French restaurants in the database would appear (only those?) with a google map above that has pins for each one on the list that you can hover over?

Maria


locked Re: Directory #suggestion

 

Maria,

Would it be possible for groups.io to have a geo-based business
directory that integrates with google maps, has categories and other
search criteria and ability for moderators ( or members) to plug in
listings?
Great suggestion. Yahoo Groups started down this path once with the "Groups Labs" features - those were essentially enhanced database tables but one of the available options was a location field, with a corresponding map view of the table.

In Groups.io terms that could be a GeoLocation column type, which if used in a table would enable a map view of the table -- pins for each row, with hover text for each pin showing the other fields.

Yahoo was using their own map product as the basis for the feature, but in Groups.io integrating this with Google maps makes a lot of sense.

This would be useful for groups where people recommend
providers/services to each other.
Yup.

Another use would be for members to voluntarily indicate their location (as in re-use groups). One of the features of Y!Groups implementation was a control over location precision. It was possible to pin something precisely (such as a storefront or other public location) or loosely (such as "I live in this neighborhood" - without revealing an exact location).

The listings could potentially be linked by admins to the message in
which a given service was discussed so that people could read why that
member recommended that service.
One could use the "Link" column type for that, I think.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

 

What does happen consistently for sure is that when I edit my own pending messages, my signature will appear twice unless I wipe out the second signature by hand. The second one appears during the editing process. 
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J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

 

This is why I hadn't reported it yet. It doesn't seem to happen consistently. In some cases, in editing/approving my own posts in my group (I have myself on moderation in order to allow myself a full-screen edit before posting), I get my signature doubly added (a second one is added during the approval process). In a different group of mine (I just tested this), editing the pending post of a moderated member does not add my signature. In some cases, editing an already-approved post adds my signature and in some cases it doesn't. I was hoping that I could give Mark more information before sending him the bug. I have a suspicion that it might be somehow connected with the ellipses problem I'd already mentioned.(*)

(*) (Yes, it is still a problem, BTW. When I simply quote text in a message, even if the text is not from Groups.io, Groups.io's algorithm always hides it with an ellipsis if it is not inlined. For example, if I compose a message consisting solely of "The following is an excerpt from the textbook:" and after that give the quote, the text will not appear. It will instead be hidden with an ellipsis unless I allow my signature, or any other text, to follow it.)
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J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

Duane
 

In my case, it was an already posted message.

Duane


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

Maria
 

Did this happen when editing a pending post or a post that had already been posted/approved?

Maria


locked Re: Editing Glitch #bug

 

Yes, I was about to report the same glitch.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I was going to send this to Support, but thought others should be aware of it, so will post here. I edited a post this morning on one of my groups. I just now realized that it had attached my personal Signature when I did so. I went back in and removed it, but it shouldn't have happened on an edit, especially on someone else's post.

Duane


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J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Editing Glitch #bug

Duane
 

I was going to send this to Support, but thought others should be aware of it, so will post here. I edited a post this morning on one of my groups. I just now realized that it had attached my personal Signature when I did so. I went back in and removed it, but it shouldn't have happened on an edit, especially on someone else's post.

Duane


locked Directory #suggestion

Maria
 

Would it be possible for groups.io to have a geo-based business directory that integrates with google maps, has categories and other search criteria and ability for moderators ( or members) to plug in listings?

This would be useful for groups where people recommend providers/services to each other.

The listings could potentially be linked by admins to the message in which a given service was discussed so that people could read why that member recommended that service.

Maria


locked Re: Problem with Search Function Plus a Request

weebeequilting <weebee.1@...>
 

Thank you Duane.  I never noticed those files search tips before.  You have saved me a lot of headaches.


Janice B

AZ


locked Is it possible to create a preview of a link? #suggestion

Maria
 

It would be nice if when we post the URL of a link the web interface automatically created a web preview of that link ( like facebook and Yahoo! do). This can be discarded when it doesn't make sense to have it (breaks up a paragraph too much) but could be nice for sharing articles and similar links in posts.

Maria



locked Re: Problem with Search Function Plus a Request

Duane
 

I tried using the + between words on a search. It did limit the results to posts where both words existed, but not always next to each other. Without it, the results were any file that had either word.

On the file search, hovering the mouse over the file name in the results will show the path to that file. You can also click on the file name to open it, which will show the path in the address bar.

Duane


locked Re: Problem with Search Function Plus a Request

Janice B <weebee.1@...>
 

When I use the Search feature and my term has multiple words, I use a plus sign between the words so that “it” knows I want those two words to be right next to each other in the search results.  I did one like that about an hour ago I needed to find the message that gave instructions on how to use a certain tension test and the term I used was tension+test and all results had those two words right next to teach other.   We generate a lot of messages about tension problems (we are long arm quilters using a robotic machine) and I would have gotten a gazillion hits about tension problems if I hadn’t used the “+” between the words.

 

On another vein but still about searching.  I would very much like it if when we are searching in Files and we get a hit if it could show the file folder the PDF or doc is located in.  I got a hit and all it told me was it was in Files which I already knew.  We have lots and lots of files—I would love to have been shown a directory of sorts showing the exact folder containing the file I was searching for.  I had to open a lot of folder before I found the file I needed.

 

Janice Bahrt

Retired School Librarian


locked Re: +owner Message Reply

 

On 4 Jun 2016 at 11:36, Duane wrote:

A few times now I've replied to a +owner Message using my own email
address because that's the one that gets chosen by default.
I would like to see g.io allow "listname+owner@groups.io" to post via
email.

Maybe the email would be held in moderation queue since the address
isn't technically a member of the group, but that's fine with me. With Y!G,
I could just send an email to the group with the From: spoofed to the
owner email. With g.io, I have to copy and paste it to the website, where I
can select the owner address as the From:

Just like everything else, it's much quicker to just send an email than to go
the site and post a message.

--
Jim
Poston@vch-nv.us

<< Crazy little thing called love. >>


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 02:22 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

and I'm not doubting that it is. That being said, most
"regular users" wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of
recalling a specific message number ...
That's a straw-man argument: I don't think anyone expects people to remember message numbers.

 Shal, you really need to look up the meaning of "strawman."  I doubt that there are many users who do not use message view who even know that message numbers exist.  They're a weirdness as far as I'm concerned, and when I've seen reference to them in the past my reaction was, "What's that?  Why not just provide the click through link."  If it's important enough to cite, it's important enough to give the reader a direct link to.  Utility to be broader audience should be a primary concern of a venue such as this one, and message numbers are, without doubt, not broadly utilitarian.  They can stay, I don't care about them, but you can't convince me that they have much broad utility at all.

Also, for anyone "unwilling to trust a link sent in email" that's their problem, not mine or any other poster's.  I've had knock-down drag outs on several of the groups here because people have had the inane idea that "unmasked" URLs were somehow "safer" than ones using click-through text and didn't like click-through text being used.  If one doesn't trust the source of the link then one shouldn't click it, but if one does there's really no reason to believe that they'd include a malicious link in a message that has seemingly been composed by them.  I'm not about to make a message more unreadable by including "naked" urls rather than including them in the via click-through text where the text makes quite obvious what the intent is.  I'm not an unknown after a while, and neither are "the regulars" on any forum or mailing list.

I really don't care, one way or another, whether message number is a separate box or not.  It could be argued that it's better that way because it establishes a very specific context and it's entirely possible for someone to use #[insert some memorable digit sequence here] in a post that someone might search on.
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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

 

Brian,

... if it's possible to search by message number in other views it
should also be in threads view.
In both Message View and Expanded Message View there's a separate search box for search by message number.

I've seen a lot of "Beta people" refer to this function and how vital
it is to them,
It is sometimes handy, but I don't think it is important enough to merit its own UI elements. Hence my suggestion to roll it into (what I think should be) the general search box.

and I'm not doubting that it is. That being said, most
"regular users" wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of
recalling a specific message number ...
That's a straw-man argument: I don't think anyone expects people to remember message numbers. (This argument was frequently employed after the Y!Groups "neo" redesign of 2013, by those who mistakenly thought the search of message content function had been taken away - but that's a whole other story).

Search by message number can be handy when someone cites a prior message by number rather than giving you the full link (URL) for the message. Or maybe if you are unwilling to trust a link received in email you might prefer to go to the site yourself and then search.

I have occasionally cited a prior message by number, even a message in another group by name and number (eg: GroupManagersForum@#502) when I make the citation for completeness, but don't feel that most readers will want to go read it. Then (especially with a shorter group name, like beta@) it becomes a matter of brevity. If I were writing a formal paper I'd use a footnote.

Fortunately, Groups.io includes a "View this message" link at the bottom of individual emails. Y!Groups doesn't and I sometimes found myself digging the message number out of the email header and then going to the archive to find it.

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Shal
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 01:57 pm, Brian Vogel wrote:
it needs to be swatted as soon as possible

 Swatted and then squished!
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J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

J_catlady,

           Just to be clear, I'm not saying what I said in an accusatory manner or with the idea that it's a design flaw.  I'd definitely have to believe it's a bug, and a huge one.

           Regardless of how it's come to be, it needs to be swatted as soon as possible.
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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

 

Brian,

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 01:16 pm, Brian Vogel wrote:

this function misbehaves grossly 

It does, but perhaps that's  not by design?  Shal seems to be explaining this morning that it's a bug that snuck its way in. He says Search in threads view used to return messages containing the search term, in addition to the titles. So maybe it's not a design flaw, but a simple goof somewhere along the line?

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J

It's dumb to buy smart water.


locked Re: Problem with Search Function

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:01 am, Shal Farley wrote:
Search by message number ought to be available in all views

The following observation is not meant to start an argument, because if it's possible to search by message number in other views it should also be in threads view.

I've seen a lot of "Beta people" refer to this function and how vital it is to them, and I'm not doubting that it is.  That being said, most "regular users" wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of recalling a specific message number when they're in the, "I know [insert topic here] was discussed a couple of weeks ago on one of my regular forums, I need to search for [insert topic here]," mode - which is the typical mode in my observation and experience.  If you don't use message view and/or edit a message you'd probably never know that these things called message numbers even existed.

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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray