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Inbox, Archive and muting
Hi Mark,
I have a question or two about the way Groups.io works. There seems to be two views for messages - an Inbox for all groups I belong to (Home), and a screen for each group I belong to. (from Home, choose Your Groups). These operate quite differently and I find it confusing. I like that I can see all recent posts for ALL my groups at once in one place (the Inbox). But sometimes, I just want to see messages from one specific group. The All-groups (Home) screen has an Inbox. The specific groups screen only has an Archive and the Top Posters list. No Inbox. However there is a Messages label which seems to be for moderation purposes at some point. If I want to mute a thread, I can only mute a thread through the website if I go to all threads for ALL groups I belong to, i.e. to the Inbox. However, I cannot mute a thread from the specific group - from Archives. I can see a link to examine muted threads, but cannot not mute another one. If I select Thread View (not Message View) in Archives, I can edit a thread - close a thread or make it a sticky. This might be a logical place to mute a thread. Also, I see I can also edit a thread from an email - there is an option at the bottom of the email to mute the thread - at the bottom of the Digest email. I was also wondering where / how I can un-mute a thread. For example, I might want to mute a thread if someone is becoming tedious! But later, I might want to hear any new discussion on the topic. Or am I missing something? Frances
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Re: suggestion: private hashtags
#suggestion
Derek Shanahan <derek@...>
- Hadn't thought about archives, but likely prefer to have them hidden from non-members. - Joining: ATM I'd be great with manually adding members, but did imagine an "application" or "subscribe" option that let me say to the entire group "Hey, I'm starting a side-thread about X EVENT, please send an email with #xevent in the subject to our list to join that thread(s)". Maybe an option to make that automatically in, or in after approval by a mod/admin. - Yeah, a subgroup email would be nice - I'm mostly worried about doing it all inside of one major group. Thanks! Derek
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: suggestion: private hashtags
#suggestion
Hmm, subgroup by hashtag. Interesting. Would you want the archives of this subgroup to be available to all the members of the group or just the people in the subgroup? Would you want anyone in the group to be able to join this subgroup if they wanted? It would be like pre-muting a hashtag for everyone except the subgroup members. I've thought about other ways to do subgroups. Creating a special group address like groupname+subname@groups.io, for example. Thanks, Mark
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Derek Shanahan <derek@...> wrote: Not sure this is the spot for feature suggestions, but I find myself needing...
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suggestion: private hashtags
#suggestion
Derek Shanahan <derek@...>
Not sure this is the spot for feature suggestions, but I find myself needing...
A way to message a sub-set of the group (leaders) privately from the larger general members. I realize I could set up a 2nd groups.io Group, but it'd be nice to do this with hashtags. - Pick a hashtag (ie #leaders) - Denote it 'anointed members only' (ie don't email to entire group, just members) - Admin/mods can manually select 'anointed members'
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Tuesday site changes
#changelog
I'm going to start posting what changes have been made to the site. I'll do so under the hashtag #updates, so if you're not interested in the minutia, you can mute it. The Delete Message button appears in more places, and now shows when a user is viewing a message that they've authored. A couple message deletion bugs were also fixed. Periods are no longer allowed in group names. People were creating groups with names that were just URLs. Recompiled everything with a newer version of the Go postgresql library, trying to squash a random crashing bug. Mark
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Re: trimming and e-mail
Laurence Taylor
On 13/10/2014 16:34, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Laurence,EXcellent, thank you! -- rgds LAurence
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Re: Help Center
Judy F.
This gets better and better.
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
That is certainly our goal.
Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:49 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote: I don’t mean to sound sarcastic when I say this, but please make sure whoever is answering the messages know the correct answer. If they don’t have them direct the question to someone who does. Also, no canned answers that don’t’ even apply to the question. Thank you,
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@.....io]
All,
I've started putting together a help center. It's at
Please let me know if you have any suggestions for things I can add or any other way it can be improved. I'll be putting a link to it in the footer of the web site.
Thanks, Mark
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Re: Help Center
That is certainly our goal. Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:49 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:
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Re: Help Center
Judy F.
I don’t mean to sound sarcastic when I say this, but please make sure whoever is answering the messages know the correct answer. If they don’t have them direct the question to someone who does. Also, no canned answers that don’t’ even apply to the question. Thank you,
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
All,
I've started putting together a help center. It's at
Please let me know if you have any suggestions for things I can add or any other way it can be improved. I'll be putting a link to it in the footer of the web site.
Thanks, Mark
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Help Center
All, I've started putting together a help center. It's at Please let me know if you have any suggestions for things I can add or any other way it can be improved. I'll be putting a link to it in the footer of the web site. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Invite flow
I've gone ahead and changed the wording for the password. I've also fixed the issue with HTML in the invite message (I decided to keep it plain text, and I'm just escaping tags now). You can now specify a name when inviting someone. And I fixed the problem with sending invitations again. Thanks, Mark
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Mark,
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Re: Well...
Yep, you're right. Post via web should ensure that a post is tagged before it sends it, if the group is configured that way. I've added it to the TODO list. Thanks, Mark
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM, <butterandpeanuts@...> wrote: So I created a group, put up a post without a hashtag (in my settings I said one was required), and hit post, etc. I thought it posted.
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Re: trimming and e-mail
Cherrill <cdjamieson@...>
yes, thanks Ronaldo,
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I am not familiar with most of the technical terms unfortunately and Mark did explain to me what you were referring to. Cherrill
On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:42 AM, ro-esp <ro-esp@...> wrote: cdjamieson@... sendis: if I am understanding this correctly, I'm not quite sure you do :-) I would not want anything deleted. That is up to the group members if that is a rule of the group; which it is in a lot of canine/feline health groups, but isn't in just chatty groups I'm not interested in chatty groups, I'm talking discussion-type groups. In those you NEED to be able to quote the pieces you're commenting, and put your comments below them. Being able to read the previous message afterwards won't do. Of course quoting and trimming customs vary from group to group, but lots of people hate it when all previous messages in a thread are sent along (=TOFU). An autotrim-option would mean you never have to remind people to not send along superfluous pieces of quote. If you want nothing to be deleted, all you have to do is type something BELOW what you want quoted. I've found that this custom prevents a lot of (unnecesary) replies to things that weren't said, but merely misremembered. As to different ways of quoting , I'm fine with what I call(ed) TRADITIONAL quoting, like the pioneers in "usenet" had even before I sent my first e-mail. With a > for every time it's been quoted As to HTML. What would I (or any EMAIL-list) need that for? [Yes, I am a bit of a "dinosaur" :-)] groetjes, Ronaldo
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Re: trimming and e-mail
ro-esp
cdjamieson@shaw.ca sendis:
if I am understanding this correctly,I'm not quite sure you do :-) I would not want anything deleted. That is up to the group members if that is a rule of the group; which it is in a lot of canine/feline health groups, but isn't in just chatty groupsI'm not interested in chatty groups, I'm talking discussion-type groups. In those you NEED to be able to quote the pieces you're commenting, and put your comments below them. Being able to read the previous message afterwards won't do. Of course quoting and trimming customs vary from group to group, but lots of people hate it when all previous messages in a thread are sent along (=TOFU). An autotrim-option would mean you never have to remind people to not send along superfluous pieces of quote. If you want nothing to be deleted, all you have to do is type something BELOW what you want quoted. I've found that this custom prevents a lot of (unnecesary) replies to things that weren't said, but merely misremembered. As to different ways of quoting , I'm fine with what I call(ed) TRADITIONAL quoting, like the pioneers in "usenet" had even before I sent my first e-mail. With a > for every time it's been quoted As to HTML. What would I (or any EMAIL-list) need that for? [Yes, I am a bit of a "dinosaur" :-)] groetjes, Ronaldo
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Re: trimming and e-mail
Laurence, Plain text emails are passed through unmodified, except for the addition of the message footer. In addition, you can set your group for plain text only, which means that any HTML messages will be converted to plain text (if they contain a plain text part, that will be used, otherwise the HTML will be converted to plain text). If the group is not set to plain text only, HTML messages are sent through unconverted. Mark
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@...> wrote: On 12/10/2014 17:57, Mark Fletcher wrote:
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Re: trimming and e-mail
Laurence Taylor
On 12/10/2014 17:57, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi Ronaldo,On that subject, is it possible to send plain text messages (no MIME codes, no odd symbles, just good old 7-bit, like this one is) and have them pass through unmolested? Also, what happens if someone sends something written in HTML? Does your system try to extract the text, or is it left up to the recipient's mail reader? -- rgds LAurence
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Re: A suggestion...
butterandpeanuts,
I understand your premium version permits that, eg direct insertion ofDone and did. See: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/thread/pricing_changes/1595 I had the same question and Mark provided a solution. A "group transfer" plan: one-time $10 fee. -- Shal
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Well...
So I created a group, put up a post without a hashtag (in my settings I said one was required), and hit post, etc. I thought it posted.
Then I get an email saying I didn't include a hashtag and gives me a link. That's sorta weird that I have to wait till I get an email back to tell me no hashtag was included... I click on the link, and it doesn't allow me to EDIT the post to add the hashtag. Also, I'm getting weird action when I try and add a new line that has spaces between the lines.
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A suggestion...
So I'm in the kick the tire stage. My Yahoo group has about 1700 folks,
and I suspect that the free version is probably adequate. One obstacle is getting all those members over to the new site without going the invite option. I understand your premium version permits that, eg direct insertion of membership. For us, that is a one time event/need. So to induce groups to move over to yours without having to go through the invite hassle, why not offer a one time fee OR free window time period, to transfer their membership? I suspect many groups with minimal needs, would find the offer very attractive as an easy way to migrate their group. Separately, i tried to post this here via email, and it came back as undeliverable. Just a suggestion.
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Re: Join flow
David P. Dillard
I just created a group and these groups do look great, I hope to be sending a message soon and will see how the service is working.
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Thanks so much for putting this all together. Can one imagine hearing from the owner of Google or of Yahoo to regularly interact regarding how the groups are going and what is being done with them? Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@temple.edu
On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi Shal,
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