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locked Re: Owner needing approval for posts?

Mark Fletcher
 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
When I first launched, the idea was that private groups would require a subscription. I quickly changed that. Private groups are completely free. Right now, the only thing I charge for is more storage space for files/attachments and the ability to directly add members.

Last word of the first sentence should be 'fee', just to be more clear.

Thanks,
Mark 
locked Re: A couple of questions

Shal Farley
 

Brenda,

Still can't figure out how to read messages in numbered order one after
another without hitting back and reading the next one. Is there a next
button anywhere?
I don't think there is.

Mark, please take that as a feature request.

I keep forgetting to mention it, but I often use Message View and having a Next and Previous that operate in message number order would be handy. Probably similar for Next and Previous topic in "Thread View".

In Classic Yahoo Groups Next/Prev were simple links, as were the message subjects in the Messages list; so browser-history link coloring worked well enough for users to distinguish read and unread messages. Mostly. I don't know if that would work here, and take some pressure off of the "Keep track of read/unread messages" item in your to-do list.

-- Shal
locked Re: A couple of questions

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark Fletcher wrote:>>Hmm. I liked Shal's idea to keep things on the cookie, because I don't want to have a million different preferences for people to have to check and review. But I could do the same thing with the database; when you change sort direction or message view, it could save that in the database and remember it that way.<<

That would be nice, as I shut down my computer often, it's not left on so cookies get deleted a lot. But I realize I'm different in that aspect. ;)

Mark wrote:>>This is on the single message view? There are no next/prev buttons there at the moment. Is that how you'd normally prefer to view group archives, single messages at a time?<<

Me, yes. I know it's weird, different, etc. But my biggest problem of trying to find a new place to host both MM and Hollow Tree, is that I always prefer to read messages on the actual site in chronological order, AND write message numbers down on a notepad to reply to later. So a Next, Previous would be awesome. I still want to read all 500+ messages in the Beta group, and that would make it really easier.

One thing I hated about Yahoo NEO, is I could no longer do that, and had to read everything in E-mail and post from E-mail because I could not handle the blinding white of the interface. But E-mail doesn't feel like a group, and this does. :)

Thanks,
Brenda
locked Re: Sticky Posts #suggestion

RS
 

Good point.  It might have to be just the original message when in message view. People would just have to follow the thread to see everything else ("view thread" shortcut button?)

Or maybe allow stickiness to be by thread or by message.  So if a mod posts a message and wants only that message to be sticky, they choose that option, but if a whole thread is relevant, they could stick the thread.  Sticky messages for the message view, and sticky threads for the thread view?  Then, in message view, maybe a flag for messages that are actually part of a sticky thread, but not specifically stick themselves.  That might be too complicated though.  The simplicity of the site is a big appeal. :)
locked Re: Owner needing approval for posts?

Mark Fletcher
 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:
My concern on that is, someone in MM seems to think non-public groups aren't free, and I wouldn't want the Mods group to be public. Is that true?

When I first launched, the idea was that private groups would require a subscription. I quickly changed that. Private groups are completely free. Right now, the only thing I charge for is more storage space for files/attachments and the ability to directly add members.

Mark 
locked Re: Owner needing approval for posts?

Nightowl >8#
 

My concern on that is, someone in MM seems to think non-public groups aren't free, and I wouldn't want the Mods group to be public. Is that true?

Still learning my way around the site...
Brenda

On 1/11/2015 4:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
A good idea I've noticed a few people doing is having a Mods subgroup
for their group, so the moderators can discuss group operations.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Feathered Leader
<featheredleader@att.net <mailto:featheredleader@att.net>> wrote:

Thanks, that explains it. :)

Brenda
locked Re: Empty messages

Mark Fletcher
 

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Chris Leong <walkraft@...> wrote:

I accidentally sent an empty message to my group. Perhaps there should be a warning in the interface if you try to do this?


Excellent idea. I'll add that.

Thanks,
Mark 
locked Re: A couple of questions

Mark Fletcher
 

Hmm. I liked Shal's idea to keep things on the cookie, because I don't want to have a million different preferences for people to have to check and review. But I could do the same thing with the database; when you change sort direction or message view, it could save that in the database and remember it that way.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Still can't figure out how to read messages in numbered order one after another without hitting back and reading the next one. Is there a next button anywhere?

This is on the single message view? There are no next/prev buttons there at the moment. Is that how you'd normally prefer to view group archives, single messages at a time?

Thanks,
Mark
locked Re: Owner needing approval for posts?

Mark Fletcher
 

A good idea I've noticed a few people doing is having a Mods subgroup for their group, so the moderators can discuss group operations.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Thanks, that explains it. :)

Brenda
locked Re: pictures #suggestion

Mark Fletcher
 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:21 PM, <dalemonator@...> wrote:

Quick questions:

When I put a picture in the message body in an email, and send it in, it seems to attach and display with no problems.  However, when I use the website, it appears to insert correctly, but it doesn't successfully attach when I hit send. Doesn't come through in my inbox, or show in the Archives.

The Post and Reply boxes on the website do not currently support images or other attachments. It's on the todo list. 

Also, I noticed when a picture goes through it shows on the main page.  When I hover over it, it shows as some kind of link.  However, clicking on it doesn't seem to change anything.  Wondering what it should do, or if it's still being worked on?

Thanks for the bug report. I've fixed it; clicking on a photo will take you to the message the photo appears in.

Thanks,
Mark
locked Re: Sticky Posts #suggestion

Mark Fletcher
 

Dalemonator,

You can mark a thread as sticky or closed right now. When viewing a thread, at the top right, there is an 'Edit Thread' button. There you can mark the thread sticky or closed, and change the subject. You can't currently edit any hashtags, but that update is coming this week. (Nice use of the #suggestions hashtag, btw).

I'm not sure how this would work in the message or expanded views however, since those are message based, not thread based.  Should all the messages in a sticky thread appear at the top of the message view, for example?

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:57 AM, <dalemonator@...> wrote:

Some groups might like to be able to post certain messages or topics as "sticky" so that they always appear at the top of the list (group etiquette, hot new info, etc.).  Since not everyone's need for this would be the same, perhaps when you make a post a sticky, you could specify if it appears at the top of the Thread, Message or Expanded views or all three.  Mods and Owners would seem to make sense as the ones who could be assigned this power. 



locked Re: To Mark -- Regarding the Blog Post

Mark Fletcher
 

Hi Brenda,

I'm flattered. No need for my approval on anything!

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Mark,

I'm assuming you are familiar with the Yahoo Crusade Blog. :)

I have created a graphic with the S.S. GROUPS.IO rescue boat speeding away from the sinking Yatanic...do you need to approve it before I post it?

Also, I need to know if I can link back to your Blog as well as to this site.

Thanks,

Brenda
Nightowl >8#
locked Re: Owner needing approval for posts?

Nightowl >8#
 

Thanks, that explains it. :)

Brenda
locked Re: Owner needing approval for posts?

RS
 

 
I actually just fixed that.  You were set to the "default policy".  I switched you to "override-can post".  :) 
 

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 1:37 PM
From: "Feathered Leader" <featheredleader@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Owner needing approval for posts?

Hey Mark,

I'm set up as approved to post, as co-owner of the group with Tyger, but I'm getting mail telling me I need to approve my posts.

However, the posts are appearing fine in the group. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Brenda

 
 
locked Owner needing approval for posts?

Nightowl >8#
 

Hey Mark,

I'm set up as approved to post, as co-owner of the group with Tyger, but I'm getting mail telling me I need to approve my posts.

However, the posts are appearing fine in the group. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

Brenda
locked To Mark -- Regarding the Blog Post

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark,

I'm assuming you are familiar with the Yahoo Crusade Blog. :)

I have created a graphic with the S.S. GROUPS.IO rescue boat speeding away from the sinking Yatanic...do you need to approve it before I post it?

Also, I need to know if I can link back to your Blog as well as to this site.

Thanks,

Brenda
Nightowl >8#
locked pictures #suggestion

RS
 

Quick questions:

When I put a picture in the message body in an email, and send it in, it seems to attach and display with no problems.  However, when I use the website, it appears to insert correctly, but it doesn't successfully attach when I hit send. Doesn't come through in my inbox, or show in the Archives.

Am I missing something on this option, or is there a known bug here?

Also, I noticed when a picture goes through it shows on the main page.  When I hover over it, it shows as some kind of link.  However, clicking on it doesn't seem to change anything.  Wondering what it should do, or if it's still being worked on?


Thanks!  Still really liking this.
locked Re: A couple of questions

Nightowl >8#
 

Right Shal,

I have my browser set to delete cookies at the end of every Internet session, so cookies won't work for me. I prefer a default method.


Still can't figure out how to read messages in numbered order one after another without hitting back and reading the next one. Is there a next button anywhere?

Brenda
locked Re: Groups.io

Nightowl >8#
 

You're welcome, Diane.

I'm trying to put together a Blog post to put on the Yahoo Crusade Blog also, but it's not finished yet. Meanwhile, everyone spread the word any way you can.

Brenda

Nightowl >8#
locked Re: A couple of questions

Shal Farley
 

Mark, Brenda,

Brenda, you can't currently set a default for message view or ordering.
I'll add that to the todo list for consideration.
To me it seems more natural if my view choices (including ordering) are simply remembered as I navigate the site and from session to session. That avoids the extra (perceived) complexity of having to go find and change the selection in my Profile or Subscription pages (or wherever they would be).

I think Yahoo Classic used to do this by setting one or more non-expiring cookies with the user's view choices. But in these cookie-phobic days that might be better stored as user data in the server.

-- Shal
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