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locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Duane
 

It didn't reset the vote on mine, thank goodness (and Mark ;>) Those that have already voted can go back and change their selection if a newer choice fits better.

Duane


locked Re: Invite flow redux

Sylvester <sylvester2007dc@...>
 

When I invite someone I am asking them to walk through the door so to speak. I would not want to stop them and say 'now I approve you'. That is 2 steps instead of one.
As an owner or moderator I have two options that require a different response on its own merit.

1. Invite, with an open door.
2. Let them join through subscription and approve them.

When I amasking for an addition email notification I am also adding extra steps as a owner or moderator.

I have always viewed it this way, if they don't accept the invite, they are the ones missing out.....🙃🙃🙃🙃
As an owner, I have too much on my plate to worry about tracking invites that do not respond...........

But I am sure there maybe be other groups that may have more time to track invites or other reasons the may need this function😀

Diane

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Diana Gregory <diana@catsandme.net> wrote:

On 1/18/2016 8:45 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I really think a NOTICE needs to go to the owner/mods that the person
has accepted the invite and is awaiting approval.
If that was already checked, look for any place your email service or software may have put the notification (such as a spam folder). If you still can't find the notification you may be having deliverability problems with your email service.
Question - why would someone need to be approved if they are responding
to an invitation? They're approving your invitation to join, so I
would assume you want them to join.

I haven't done invitations in so long that I don't know how they work
on other services. Usually I either have an off-line okay to add them
to a list - or they are asking to join a list.

Diana




locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:08 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I don't know what's been happening with others, but of the five invitations I've sent out that have been accepted (the rest were part of the mass transfer), two have had difficulty. The first was resolved (it was an issue of a concurrent invitation and membership application). But the second one is still messed up. This person accepted the invitation but didn't at first click on "confirm" so he ended up NC. (I would prefer that the boilerplate invitation emphasize this requirement.)

He would not end up as NC this way. I believe he must have registered with Groups.io on his own at some point, and not replied/clicked on the confirmation email.
 

I saw the NC and emailed him, asking him to either log on from one route or another, or find the confirmation email and reply to it. He responded as follows:

"I just went in and changed the email address I want to use and set a password.  These changes were acknowledged, but it won't let me log in, either with my regular email address or the changed one."


It sounds like there are 2 email addresses involved for him. Can you send me off-list his email address, and I'll investigate?

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Sylvester <sylvester2007dc@...>
 

When you add new options.
Does it restart the counter to 0?

Diane


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

I think Polls are about as close to real time as they can get. As soon as someone makes a choice, the totals are updated. There's nothing that I know of to prevent you from adding more options. I've done it on a couple.

Duane






locked Re: Signature LInes

 

On 18 Jan 2016 at 1:08, D R Stinson wrote:

If
it's not on the TO DO list, how can some people have one? Some
posters in here have a signature line. How are they doing that?
Maybe they're
adding it manually when they compose their message. It's certainly easy enough
to do. Even simpler, compose in a word processing program that automagically
adds it and then just paste it into a message. Dano
There is a difference between signature lines added by the group to all
messages sent from the group (that is or was an option with Yahoo), and
signature lines added to an individual's messages by his/her email client. I
have a set of lines added to the bottom of all my messsages, and they will show
under this message if groups.io does not remove them, but they are set by me in
my email client (Pegasus Mail) it allows me a choice of alternatives, all
pre-written, with the default as used here. It's already on the bottom of the
message before it reaches the groups.io system

Jim Fisher
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locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

p.s. I am telling people, over and over again, that Groups.io is ridikulusly better than Yahoo, but am constantly having to apologize for these invitation, password, login, and join issues. I tell members it's Groups.io's "one remaining weakness" (or "stumbling block" or "rocky thing" etc.) I am always apologizing for it and trying to explain it away, and telling people it will be fixed soon. 

These issues were my worry at the very start and the reason I delayed transferring as long as I did. I'm still really glad I transferred (and have even created a new group here from scratch for a different purpose), but IMHO these issues should take top priority! 

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:08 PM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I don't know what's been happening with others, but of the five invitations I've sent out that have been accepted (the rest were part of the mass transfer), two have had difficulty. The first was resolved (it was an issue of a concurrent invitation and membership application). But the second one is still messed up. This person accepted the invitation but didn't at first click on "confirm" so he ended up NC. (I would prefer that the boilerplate invitation emphasize this requirement.) I saw the NC and emailed him, asking him to either log on from one route or another, or find the confirmation email and reply to it. He responded as follows:

"I just went in and changed the email address I want to use and set a password.  These changes were acknowledged, but it won't let me log in, either with my regular email address or the changed one."

The person, by the way, is one the smartest people I know. And he's completely flummoxed, as am I. I did notice, in the activity log, that the system logged his email changes as if he changed from one email address to same one - i.e., nothing changed. And there are two entires to that effect. I wonder if the system invalidated email address #1, which is identical to email address #2, the one he wanted to "change" to, and therefore won't let him log on because it's been invalidated? That's just a wild guess. I can't imagine this person would intentionally "change" from one email address to the same one, twice in a row. But even if he did, I would think he'd still be able to log on.

J



locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

I don't know what's been happening with others, but of the five invitations I've sent out that have been accepted (the rest were part of the mass transfer), two have had difficulty. The first was resolved (it was an issue of a concurrent invitation and membership application). But the second one is still messed up. This person accepted the invitation but didn't at first click on "confirm" so he ended up NC. (I would prefer that the boilerplate invitation emphasize this requirement.) I saw the NC and emailed him, asking him to either log on from one route or another, or find the confirmation email and reply to it. He responded as follows:

"I just went in and changed the email address I want to use and set a password.  These changes were acknowledged, but it won't let me log in, either with my regular email address or the changed one."

The person, by the way, is one the smartest people I know. And he's completely flummoxed, as am I. I did notice, in the activity log, that the system logged his email changes as if he changed from one email address to same one - i.e., nothing changed. And there are two entires to that effect. I wonder if the system invalidated email address #1, which is identical to email address #2, the one he wanted to "change" to, and therefore won't let him log on because it's been invalidated? That's just a wild guess. I can't imagine this person would intentionally "change" from one email address to the same one, twice in a row. But even if he did, I would think he'd still be able to log on.

J


locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

On 1/18/2016 8:45 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I really think a NOTICE needs to go to the owner/mods that the person
has accepted the invite and is awaiting approval.
If that was already checked, look for any place your email service or software may have put the notification (such as a spam folder). If you still can't find the notification you may be having deliverability problems with your email service.
Question - why would someone need to be approved if they are responding
to an invitation? They're approving your invitation to join, so I
would assume you want them to join.

I haven't done invitations in so long that I don't know how they work
on other services. Usually I either have an off-line okay to add them
to a list - or they are asking to join a list.

Diana


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

It's a little a brainstorming poll. It's very usefull to my opinion.


locked Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Benoit Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Le Mardi 19 janvier 2016 21h27, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> a écrit :

If you have your Profile set to prefer HTML posting, all you have to do is select the text that you want to include and click
Reply. The selected text is inserted in the Reply box for you.

Thanks for you answer.

Even if you have your preference set to Plain Text, it will place
the selected text, but obviously not in HTML mode.
:(


locked Re: WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Duane
 

If you have your Profile set to prefer HTML posting, all you have to do is select the text that you want to include and click Reply. The selected text is inserted in the Reply box for you. Even if you have your preference set to Plain Text, it will place the selected text, but obviously not in HTML mode.

Duane


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Duane
 

I think Polls are about as close to real time as they can get. As soon as someone makes a choice, the totals are updated. There's nothing that I know of to prevent you from adding more options. I've done it on a couple.

Duane


locked Re: Language Localisation

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 03:19 am, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com> wrote:

I had to use Yahoo (or maybe Google) since they were the only group service
providers I was familiar with which allowed a French-language group
framework.

So the point of my moan is to plead for a groups.io "à la française" -
aussitôt que possible!
Maybe Mark could search to system like OneSky
https://www.oneskyapp.com/how-it-works/translation-management-system/


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Not interesting?


About poll.Some ideas with this service: http://updwn.co/"See what everybody thinks. Updwn lets you make simple, beautiful, real-time polls."

  • Up or Down (+1 0 or -1)
  • Realtime with possibility to add new option. But no notification of the news options

-- Dreadaxe


locked WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Could you add button to quoting select text with WYSIWYG HTML Editor?

--
Dreadaxe


locked Stylish Blockquotes

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Possibility to change the style of the blockquote the messages of a specific group.


locked Delete selection of messages

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Maybe it's possible to give the possibility to delete lot of messages by batch

--
Dreadaxe


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

Another transferee is having problems this morning. I was surprised to find a membership application from her and had to explain that the transfer process had already added her. This seems to be another case of missing emails. I'm not sure. 

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:19 AM, J_Olivia Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Thanks, Mark.  

It's unclear what happened in this case, since the invitation (and his acceptance of it, or attempt to accept - he did THINK he'd accepted, as he told me he had, which is still the "confusing invitation" issue) - the invitation and his application to join the group (and my approval of that) happened concurrently. I'm not sure which one went through the system first. Last night, the NC appeared next to his hame. I tried to email him some instructions to log in, create a password, etc., and this morning the NC was gone. I'm still not sure what happened.

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark




locked Re: Updates to Trello

 

Yay! 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Beta Integration <beta@groups.io> wrote:
[Beta] New card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was added to list "Member Management".


[Beta] The description of card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was changed to:

Both for security for the user (they can see if someone else is logging into their account), and also to track potential trolls.


[Beta] The yellow label "Member Management" was added to the card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times.".



locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was added to list "Member Management".


[Beta] The description of card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was changed to:

Both for security for the user (they can see if someone else is logging into their account), and also to track potential trolls.


[Beta] The yellow label "Member Management" was added to the card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times.".