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locked Re: Language Localisation

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 03:19 am, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com> wrote:

I had to use Yahoo (or maybe Google) since they were the only group service
providers I was familiar with which allowed a French-language group
framework.

So the point of my moan is to plead for a groups.io "à la française" -
aussitôt que possible!
Maybe Mark could search to system like OneSky
https://www.oneskyapp.com/how-it-works/translation-management-system/


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Not interesting?


About poll.Some ideas with this service: http://updwn.co/"See what everybody thinks. Updwn lets you make simple, beautiful, real-time polls."

  • Up or Down (+1 0 or -1)
  • Realtime with possibility to add new option. But no notification of the news options

-- Dreadaxe


locked WYSIWYG HTML Editor and quote option

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Could you add button to quoting select text with WYSIWYG HTML Editor?

--
Dreadaxe


locked Stylish Blockquotes

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Possibility to change the style of the blockquote the messages of a specific group.


locked Delete selection of messages

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

Maybe it's possible to give the possibility to delete lot of messages by batch

--
Dreadaxe


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

Another transferee is having problems this morning. I was surprised to find a membership application from her and had to explain that the transfer process had already added her. This seems to be another case of missing emails. I'm not sure. 

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:19 AM, J_Olivia Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Thanks, Mark.  

It's unclear what happened in this case, since the invitation (and his acceptance of it, or attempt to accept - he did THINK he'd accepted, as he told me he had, which is still the "confusing invitation" issue) - the invitation and his application to join the group (and my approval of that) happened concurrently. I'm not sure which one went through the system first. Last night, the NC appeared next to his hame. I tried to email him some instructions to log in, create a password, etc., and this morning the NC was gone. I'm still not sure what happened.

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark




locked Re: Updates to Trello

 

Yay! 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Beta Integration <beta@groups.io> wrote:
[Beta] New card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was added to list "Member Management".


[Beta] The description of card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was changed to:

Both for security for the user (they can see if someone else is logging into their account), and also to track potential trolls.


[Beta] The yellow label "Member Management" was added to the card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times.".



locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was added to list "Member Management".


[Beta] The description of card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times." was changed to:

Both for security for the user (they can see if someone else is logging into their account), and also to track potential trolls.


[Beta] The yellow label "Member Management" was added to the card "Track IP address/client per member/log in times.".


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

Thanks, Mark.  

It's unclear what happened in this case, since the invitation (and his acceptance of it, or attempt to accept - he did THINK he'd accepted, as he told me he had, which is still the "confusing invitation" issue) - the invitation and his application to join the group (and my approval of that) happened concurrently. I'm not sure which one went through the system first. Last night, the NC appeared next to his hame. I tried to email him some instructions to log in, create a password, etc., and this morning the NC was gone. I'm still not sure what happened.

J

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark



locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Make the invite system more clever" was added to list "Invitations".


[Beta] The pink label "Invitations" was added to the card "Make the invite system more clever".


[Beta] The description of card "Make the invite system more clever" was changed to:

I suppose the system could be a touch more clever, and if a user is attempting to use either of those methods, check to see if there's an outstanding invite for that user and automatically approve them. And conversely, at the time a moderator is sending invitations the system could check to see if that user is already pending approval, and automatically approve them. This action could be noted in the Invitation results page (Pending membership approved, rather than Invitation sent).


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:05 AM, J_catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?


If someone is not confirmed, they are treated like they are not subscribed to the group. If archives are private, they can't see them, etc.


Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.

If the person didn't click on the invite link, but instead became a member through just joining the group the 'normal' way, that could explain what you're seeing.

Notes on invites: People who accept invite links are automatically confirmed if they weren't before, and they do not become pending members if the list is restricted, they are normal members. If you have your group set to New Users Moderated, then they do get set with the NuM status.

Hope this helps.
Mark


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?

Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.
J

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

Successfully sending an invitation will take you to a new page with a summary. In my case, it said

Invite Summary
Invites Processed: 1
Invites Sent: 1

If you see anything else, there was a problem with the information you entered.

Any time an invitation is no longer needed, you can select the check box to the left of it, then go to the Actions box at the bottom of the page and choose Cancel/Remove Invite.

Duane





locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Duane
 

Successfully sending an invitation will take you to a new page with a summary. In my case, it said

Invite Summary
Invites Processed: 1
Invites Sent: 1

If you see anything else, there was a problem with the information you entered.

Any time an invitation is no longer needed, you can select the check box to the left of it, then go to the Actions box at the bottom of the page and choose Cancel/Remove Invite.

Duane


locked Re: HTML digest mockups

Maria
 

forgot to add:

10 - the attachments: hopefully if they are images they will be seen as thumbnails (as in digest #1?) so that a digest for an image heavy group could give the reader of glimpse of what is on the new messages.




locked Re: HTML digest mockups

Maria
 

Thank you for sharing these. Overall i prefer the one with the blue banner ( not sure if that is #1 or #2). It feels more solid, more graphic, perhaps easier to look at on an iphone. That said, here are some suggestions and questions:

1- the rectangular slanted blue box on "messages" looks clunky

2- will the topics hyperlink to the messages?

3- can you separate the messages by a think line as you do in the other digest? this is very helpful

4- can groups have their own name on the banner ? Maybe with the higher pricing plans?

5- is their a way to reply to the sender via email/digest rather than having to go to the web browser to do so? So many of our members participate via email and love to have a copy of their emails in their sent box.

6- is there a way to have a sub-section of hyperlinked subjects for popular topics (maybe they are ongoing or maybe they were in past digests and people missed them) on the bottom of the digest - so that members can catch us with the main discussions they may have missed? These would just be the top 10 discussions in past 30 days or so. Just titles with links to the topic.

7- can each topic be represented by the hashtag assigned to it and have that correspond to a  color in the tag for the hashtag? and have this hastag in turn link the reader to the web browser version of the index of those hashtagged topics?

8 - the black bar at top - I wonder if grey would feel less heavy - visually? or a color?

9 - will the replies ( the 1b/ 1c etc) be listed as indented - threaded replies that contain the original post or will they be clipped so that the digest looks neat?

Thank you so much for your work on this!


Maria





locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

I now have one member who sent a membership request concurrently with my sending him an invitation (unbeknownst to each other at the time). I accepted his membership request and it turned out he'd already accepted the invitation as well. There are two things I don't know how to interpret or do about at this point: (1) His invitation shows up as "sent" (not as "accepted") in the pending invitations, and (2) His name has "NC" next to it in the members list. I understand "NC" means "did not click on the confirm link" in the email. But what are the ramifications of that? Is this related, or equivalent, to his not having created a password? What should be the next steps? Very confused. Thanks.

J


locked Update on group deletion

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Morning all

Just an update on group deletion for screen reader users.

There may be no code changes internally, but there is absolutely no feedback after clicking the "delete group" button. You have to do it through trial and error. For me, if you tab twice you should focus in the box where you type the words "I understand". After that, pressing return should activate something and the group is deleted. But if there are no code changes internally, how come all of a sudden we don't get any feedback at all like we used to? I tried both Safari and Google Chrome with the same results. And no, this is not a VoiceOver issue at all; it does not work with any screen readers on any platform.

I therefore suggest you all attempt to duplicate my observations and help the Groups.io team out, as something has changed for sure. Thanks, and hope you find this update helpful.


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Ro
 

Or perhaps I dont know what I am doing?  After all, I tried to send an invite 3 times before noticing the tiny error message at the bottom.   An invite not sent should not look like you have sent it, returning you to the invite screen, with only a tiny red message at the bottom that you have to scroll down the page to even see.  And if you leave the invite screen to check Outstanding invitations and return, the error message is of course, gone.   For those of us challenged on such matters, we need such error messages at the TOP, clearly visible, perhaps with lights and sirens and a robotic voice shouting "Danger Will Robinson, Danger"!!!

At this point, I have doubts that I have even sent a successful invite.   I will exercise more caution in the future. Tish!


Ro

with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.




> To: beta@groups.io
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:28:20 -0800
> Subject: [beta] Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations
> From: txpigeon@...
>
> Ro,
>
> Hmm, I just sent an invitation to another of my email addresses (it does have an IO account w/password). Initially it showed Sent and Success. I accepted the invitation and it changed to Accepted and Success. The group is set for NuM, remove after 1 post, but does not require approval of join requests. Maybe that's what caused yours to act differently - needing approval. In that case, I think it should be changed so that the Outstanding Invitations page shows Approval Pending or something similar.
>
> Duane
>
>
>
>
>


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Duane
 

Ro,

Hmm, I just sent an invitation to another of my email addresses (it does have an IO account w/password). Initially it showed Sent and Success. I accepted the invitation and it changed to Accepted and Success. The group is set for NuM, remove after 1 post, but does not require approval of join requests. Maybe that's what caused yours to act differently - needing approval. In that case, I think it should be changed so that the Outstanding Invitations page shows Approval Pending or something similar.

Duane


locked Invite flow redux

 

In "questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations"
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/5241

Ro wrote:

I really think a NOTICE needs to go to the owner/mods that the person
has accepted the invite and is awaiting approval.
Click the Subscription page on that group.
Check the "Email when there are members needing approval." box.
Click the "Save" button at the bottom.

If that was already checked, look for any place your email service or software may have put the notification (such as a spam folder). If you still can't find the notification you may be having deliverability problems with your email service.

I would suggest having a look at the Email Delivery History tab of your Subscription page for that group. But it appears that notifications are not covered by the history mechanism (that's a wish-list item of mine).

Frankly, if we send an invite, why do we need to approve? ... Approval
needs to be AUTOMATIC.
It is (unless that has broken recently). But it is also possible that the member went to the group page and clicked the "Apply For Membership To This Group" button, or used the +subscribe email command, rather than responding to your invitation.

I suppose the system could be a touch more clever, and if a user is attempting to use either of those methods, check to see if there's an outstanding invite for that user and automatically approve them. And conversely, at the time a moderator is sending invitations the system could check to see if that user is already pending approval, and automatically approve them. This action could be noted in the Invitation results page (Pending membership approved, rather than Invitation sent).



-- Shal
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum