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locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

I'm not talking about that page. The page arrived. I'm just asking, again, what NC means in terms of its effects - not in terms of what the user did or didn't do in response to the confirm email. Is it just informational or does it affect the user's status/permissions in any way? How does it go away once it's been set - what should the moderator or user do?

Also: it seems incorrect that in the 'outstanding invitations' page the invitation is marked 'sent' rather than 'accepted,' even though the member is listed in the actual (not pending) members list. Possibly this is related to the NC designation. But I find the situation at least confusing.
J

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote:

Successfully sending an invitation will take you to a new page with a summary. In my case, it said

Invite Summary
Invites Processed: 1
Invites Sent: 1

If you see anything else, there was a problem with the information you entered.

Any time an invitation is no longer needed, you can select the check box to the left of it, then go to the Actions box at the bottom of the page and choose Cancel/Remove Invite.

Duane





locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Duane
 

Successfully sending an invitation will take you to a new page with a summary. In my case, it said

Invite Summary
Invites Processed: 1
Invites Sent: 1

If you see anything else, there was a problem with the information you entered.

Any time an invitation is no longer needed, you can select the check box to the left of it, then go to the Actions box at the bottom of the page and choose Cancel/Remove Invite.

Duane


locked Re: HTML digest mockups

Maria
 

forgot to add:

10 - the attachments: hopefully if they are images they will be seen as thumbnails (as in digest #1?) so that a digest for an image heavy group could give the reader of glimpse of what is on the new messages.




locked Re: HTML digest mockups

Maria
 

Thank you for sharing these. Overall i prefer the one with the blue banner ( not sure if that is #1 or #2). It feels more solid, more graphic, perhaps easier to look at on an iphone. That said, here are some suggestions and questions:

1- the rectangular slanted blue box on "messages" looks clunky

2- will the topics hyperlink to the messages?

3- can you separate the messages by a think line as you do in the other digest? this is very helpful

4- can groups have their own name on the banner ? Maybe with the higher pricing plans?

5- is their a way to reply to the sender via email/digest rather than having to go to the web browser to do so? So many of our members participate via email and love to have a copy of their emails in their sent box.

6- is there a way to have a sub-section of hyperlinked subjects for popular topics (maybe they are ongoing or maybe they were in past digests and people missed them) on the bottom of the digest - so that members can catch us with the main discussions they may have missed? These would just be the top 10 discussions in past 30 days or so. Just titles with links to the topic.

7- can each topic be represented by the hashtag assigned to it and have that correspond to a  color in the tag for the hashtag? and have this hastag in turn link the reader to the web browser version of the index of those hashtagged topics?

8 - the black bar at top - I wonder if grey would feel less heavy - visually? or a color?

9 - will the replies ( the 1b/ 1c etc) be listed as indented - threaded replies that contain the original post or will they be clipped so that the digest looks neat?

Thank you so much for your work on this!


Maria





locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

 

I now have one member who sent a membership request concurrently with my sending him an invitation (unbeknownst to each other at the time). I accepted his membership request and it turned out he'd already accepted the invitation as well. There are two things I don't know how to interpret or do about at this point: (1) His invitation shows up as "sent" (not as "accepted") in the pending invitations, and (2) His name has "NC" next to it in the members list. I understand "NC" means "did not click on the confirm link" in the email. But what are the ramifications of that? Is this related, or equivalent, to his not having created a password? What should be the next steps? Very confused. Thanks.

J


locked Update on group deletion

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Morning all

Just an update on group deletion for screen reader users.

There may be no code changes internally, but there is absolutely no feedback after clicking the "delete group" button. You have to do it through trial and error. For me, if you tab twice you should focus in the box where you type the words "I understand". After that, pressing return should activate something and the group is deleted. But if there are no code changes internally, how come all of a sudden we don't get any feedback at all like we used to? I tried both Safari and Google Chrome with the same results. And no, this is not a VoiceOver issue at all; it does not work with any screen readers on any platform.

I therefore suggest you all attempt to duplicate my observations and help the Groups.io team out, as something has changed for sure. Thanks, and hope you find this update helpful.


locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Ro
 

Or perhaps I dont know what I am doing?  After all, I tried to send an invite 3 times before noticing the tiny error message at the bottom.   An invite not sent should not look like you have sent it, returning you to the invite screen, with only a tiny red message at the bottom that you have to scroll down the page to even see.  And if you leave the invite screen to check Outstanding invitations and return, the error message is of course, gone.   For those of us challenged on such matters, we need such error messages at the TOP, clearly visible, perhaps with lights and sirens and a robotic voice shouting "Danger Will Robinson, Danger"!!!

At this point, I have doubts that I have even sent a successful invite.   I will exercise more caution in the future. Tish!


Ro

with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.




> To: beta@groups.io
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:28:20 -0800
> Subject: [beta] Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations
> From: txpigeon@...
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> Ro,
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> Hmm, I just sent an invitation to another of my email addresses (it does have an IO account w/password). Initially it showed Sent and Success. I accepted the invitation and it changed to Accepted and Success. The group is set for NuM, remove after 1 post, but does not require approval of join requests. Maybe that's what caused yours to act differently - needing approval. In that case, I think it should be changed so that the Outstanding Invitations page shows Approval Pending or something similar.
>
> Duane
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locked Re: questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations

Duane
 

Ro,

Hmm, I just sent an invitation to another of my email addresses (it does have an IO account w/password). Initially it showed Sent and Success. I accepted the invitation and it changed to Accepted and Success. The group is set for NuM, remove after 1 post, but does not require approval of join requests. Maybe that's what caused yours to act differently - needing approval. In that case, I think it should be changed so that the Outstanding Invitations page shows Approval Pending or something similar.

Duane


locked Invite flow redux

 

In "questions (suggestions?) re "status" and "reason" columns in invitations"
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/5241

Ro wrote:

I really think a NOTICE needs to go to the owner/mods that the person
has accepted the invite and is awaiting approval.
Click the Subscription page on that group.
Check the "Email when there are members needing approval." box.
Click the "Save" button at the bottom.

If that was already checked, look for any place your email service or software may have put the notification (such as a spam folder). If you still can't find the notification you may be having deliverability problems with your email service.

I would suggest having a look at the Email Delivery History tab of your Subscription page for that group. But it appears that notifications are not covered by the history mechanism (that's a wish-list item of mine).

Frankly, if we send an invite, why do we need to approve? ... Approval
needs to be AUTOMATIC.
It is (unless that has broken recently). But it is also possible that the member went to the group page and clicked the "Apply For Membership To This Group" button, or used the +subscribe email command, rather than responding to your invitation.

I suppose the system could be a touch more clever, and if a user is attempting to use either of those methods, check to see if there's an outstanding invite for that user and automatically approve them. And conversely, at the time a moderator is sending invitations the system could check to see if that user is already pending approval, and automatically approve them. This action could be noted in the Invitation results page (Pending membership approved, rather than Invitation sent).



-- Shal
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Invite flow redux

 

It's an unsolved problem but one that can seriously hamper efforts to invite new members. I plan on adding a boilerplate explanation to every invitation. Couldn't the system instead insert such an explanation for now?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote:

In "can only be logged in under one email address in same browser?", J wrote:
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/5234

It seems now that clicking on "accept invitation" requires creation of a
password in order to even result in email subscription. It does not
subscribe the member to the group;
Perhaps this can be clarified by changing it to say "visit web site to accept invitation", or some other wording that lets the person know that they'll need to do something at the web site to actually accept the invitation.

(1) replying to the invitation email subscribes the member to the group
(as an email subscriber); but
Correct.

(2) clicking on "accept invitation" does NOT subscribe the member to the
group in any way, even just as an email subscriber.
Which it cannot, due to the auto-click problem...
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/4383

Instead, the invitee is taken to the group's page and MUST log in to be
able to join (or subscribe).
That was correct, and may still be. But maybe now the link in an invitation can be made to log the person in automatically. They'd still need to take an action at the site to accept the invitation though.

And it wouldn't work for those who have an auto-click email client. An unsolved problem for another day.

-- Shal





locked Invite flow redux

 

In "can only be logged in under one email address in same browser?", J wrote:
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/5234

It seems now that clicking on "accept invitation" requires creation of a
password in order to even result in email subscription. It does not
subscribe the member to the group;
Perhaps this can be clarified by changing it to say "visit web site to accept invitation", or some other wording that lets the person know that they'll need to do something at the web site to actually accept the invitation.

(1) replying to the invitation email subscribes the member to the group
(as an email subscriber); but
Correct.

(2) clicking on "accept invitation" does NOT subscribe the member to the
group in any way, even just as an email subscriber.
Which it cannot, due to the auto-click problem...
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/4383

Instead, the invitee is taken to the group's page and MUST log in to be
able to join (or subscribe).
That was correct, and may still be. But maybe now the link in an invitation can be made to log the person in automatically. They'd still need to take an action at the site to accept the invitation though.

And it wouldn't work for those who have an auto-click email client. An unsolved problem for another day.

-- Shal


locked Re: Password reset

 

It makes sense that you dont have to know the old one. Same as 'forgot password.'

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2016, at 6:35 PM, JohnF via Groups.io <johnf1686=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

With Mark's new log-in-via-email-link feature, your member can just go to the login page, click the button to email a link to log in, check her email within 15 minutes, and click the link to log in. Then she can change her password in her profile. (It appears Groups.io lets you change your password without having to know the old one.)

JohnF





locked Re: Lost passwords, no passwords and reset password, oh my

 

Mark,

My testing of the log-in-via-emailed-link method has gone pretty well, but I noticed something I wanted to point out.

I'm currently on a Linux computer. It apparently doesn't have the expected fonts, because on the login page, the buttons are too small to hold their text. They look like:

Email me a link to l...
Sign in with Faceb...
Sign in with Google

I could figure out what "Faceb..." is, but "Email me a link to l..." wouldn't work if I didn't already know what it was.

I checked Brenda's Windows 10 computer, and it shows the full descriptions on the buttons with room to spare, so it's obviously a font issue on my end.

You could probably resolve this by making the buttons slightly longer (as well as the fields above them, as their lengths match). However, it might be better to just change the text to "Sign in by Email", which would better match the other button descriptions, and would probably be short enough to fit. I could let you know if you want to try it.

JohnF


locked Re: Password reset

 

With Mark's new log-in-via-email-link feature, your member can just go to the login page, click the button to email a link to log in, check her email within 15 minutes, and click the link to log in. Then she can change her password in her profile. (It appears Groups.io lets you change your password without having to know the old one.)

JohnF


locked Password reset

weebeequilting <weebee.1@...>
 

I have a link sent to me by Mark that can take my members to a password reset page.  I just shared it with a member and she is getting a 404 error message.  Help!  Where can I tell her to go to reset her password!


Janice B

AZ


locked Permissions update

 

Hi All,

I've gone through and made all the permissions uniform for the Calendar, Photos, Files and Database. Moderators can edit/delete everything. Normal subscribers can edit/delete their own stuff.

In addition, for the wiki, I added the ability to lock a page so that only moderators can edit/delete it.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Lost passwords, no passwords and reset password, oh my

 

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

I just remembered the issue about auto-clicking email clients. Is that an issue here?
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/4383

I think I'd rather say "tough luck" to them than lose this feature.

Agreed. In this case, auto clicking will just mean that these people will think the feature doesn't work.

Mark


locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "Lock/unlock pages/moderation" by Mark Fletcher:

Done! When moderators create/edit pages, there's now a checkbox that lets you lock the page so that only moderators can edit it.


[Beta] The card "Lock/unlock pages/moderation" was archived.


locked Re: Lost passwords, no passwords and reset password, oh my

 

Mark,

I just pushed this to the site. Please let me know what you think.
I just remembered the issue about auto-clicking email clients. Is that an issue here?
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/4383

I think I'd rather say "tough luck" to them than lose this feature.

-- Shal


locked Re: Transfering archives of lists hosted on Freelists?

 

Hi Joseph,

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

With the number of lists moving to Groups.IO growing (especially from Yahoo! Groups), I was wondering if you can support transferring message archives from lists hosted by Freelists.org. I ask because there is a group that I moderate at Freelists that wish to join an existing Groups.IO group as a subgroup. Please let us (Freelists users) know if you need more information.


If you can get me the archives in mbox format, then I can definitely import them.

Cheers,
Mark