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locked Re: "P" next to member name

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

 I have gone over it with Shal and I have everything in order now

Thank you Terry for your support in helping me. :)

Vickie

 









From: Terry S <apacapacas@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

Vickie - Before P, a member should be NuM - answer the questionnaire, and then be approved.  Blank should then fall into place (default policy) rather than Override: Not Moderated (P). 

At least, that's how I understand it.

Terry S
--
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling, 1901 - 1994



On 1/7/2016 7:08 PM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:
 Terry the subject was about an option that is not available. 
Before P, member should reply to the questionnaire and not able to read or participate
with the group until 1- the  questionnaire is submitted to moderator and  once the member submits
the first post to the forum for moderation .  P would then fall into place.

Vickie

 











From: Terry S <apacapacas@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

Vickie - How can a member participate in the group if he can't read messages until after he has a "P" by his name?

Terry S
--
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling, 1901 - 1994





On 1/6/2016 7:25 PM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:
Shal >>>>P' ~ may post without moderation,
                   'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and 
                    'NP' ~ not allowed to post. 


 
" M "  Will  newbie members be able to read messages anyway?
 I prefer they not see group messages until they have P status
From experience newbie members  won't bother to reply   to  the questionnaire sent to them
upon joining  because some just want  to  get the group  members emails in the forum. 

M  though they are moderated   ideally they should not be able to read the group forum or members emails
or receive group messages. until status   is  changed to P 
In my group privacy is very important and members emails is very important to them to keep private  the group private until the member
shows participation with the group.


 
Vickie




From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: The badges on the My Groups page currently match those on the Members list.]

J,

> So in a group that is all moderated, does an unmoderated member have a
> 'P' next to their name?

In any kind of group, a member with the "Not moderated" override would have a 'P' next to their name.

> I just find it confusing to have a separate notation 'P' that really
> just means 'not M.'

'P' does not mean 'not M'.

There are five cases, all of which are of interest to a moderator looking at their Members list:

'P' = Override: not moderated,
'M' = Override: moderated,
'NuM' = Override: new user moderated,
'NP' = Override: not allowed to post, and of course
(blank) = Default group policy

Even in the case of a member looking at their Your Groups list, there are an irreducible three cases, if you combine the effect of group and individual settings:

'P' ~ may post without moderation,
'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and
'NP' ~ not allowed to post.

NOTE: the above meanings on the Your Groups list is a suggestion only. Currently they are implemented to exactly match your Posting Privilege in each group (the top five cases), unaltered by the group's settings. If you show no badge for a group, then you must refer to the group's settings to see how your posts would be handled.

-- Shal



















locked Re: "P" next to member name

Terry S
 

Vickie - Before P, a member should be NuM - answer the questionnaire, and then be approved.  Blank should then fall into place (default policy) rather than Override: Not Moderated (P). 

At least, that's how I understand it.

Terry S
--
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling, 1901 - 1994



On 1/7/2016 7:08 PM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:
 Terry the subject was about an option that is not available. 
Before P, member should reply to the questionnaire and not able to read or participate
with the group until 1- the  questionnaire is submitted to moderator and  once the member submits
the first post to the forum for moderation .  P would then fall into place.

Vickie

 











From: Terry S <apacapacas@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

Vickie - How can a member participate in the group if he can't read messages until after he has a "P" by his name?

Terry S
--
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling, 1901 - 1994





On 1/6/2016 7:25 PM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:
Shal >>>>P' ~ may post without moderation,
                   'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and 
                    'NP' ~ not allowed to post. 


 
" M "  Will  newbie members be able to read messages anyway?
 I prefer they not see group messages until they have P status
From experience newbie members  won't bother to reply   to  the questionnaire sent to them
upon joining  because some just want  to  get the group  members emails in the forum. 

M  though they are moderated   ideally they should not be able to read the group forum or members emails
or receive group messages. until status   is  changed to P 
In my group privacy is very important and members emails is very important to them to keep private  the group private until the member
shows participation with the group.


 
Vickie




From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: The badges on the My Groups page currently match those on the Members list.]

J,

> So in a group that is all moderated, does an unmoderated member have a
> 'P' next to their name?

In any kind of group, a member with the "Not moderated" override would have a 'P' next to their name.

> I just find it confusing to have a separate notation 'P' that really
> just means 'not M.'

'P' does not mean 'not M'.

There are five cases, all of which are of interest to a moderator looking at their Members list:

'P' = Override: not moderated,
'M' = Override: moderated,
'NuM' = Override: new user moderated,
'NP' = Override: not allowed to post, and of course
(blank) = Default group policy

Even in the case of a member looking at their Your Groups list, there are an irreducible three cases, if you combine the effect of group and individual settings:

'P' ~ may post without moderation,
'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and
'NP' ~ not allowed to post.

NOTE: the above meanings on the Your Groups list is a suggestion only. Currently they are implemented to exactly match your Posting Privilege in each group (the top five cases), unaltered by the group's settings. If you show no badge for a group, then you must refer to the group's settings to see how your posts would be handled.

-- Shal
















locked Re: question regarding linking groups with another email address

Steph Mathews <hsrsp@...>
 

Thanks Mark, I think I know how I'm going to do this.  I'll write you off list if I need assistance.  Steph


-----Original Message-----
From: markf@corp.groups.io
Sent: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 16:53:48 -0800
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] question regarding linking groups with another email address

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steph <hsrsp@...> wrote:
Good evening all,
I just discovered that my other email address that is with my ISP is registered with Groups.io.  Without unsubscribing from my groups especially groups that I own and re-subscribing to them with my other email address, is there a way I can link my groups with my other address?  Thanks!

Currently there is no way to "merge" email addresses in the system. If the other email address is not subscribed to anything, I can just delete it for you and then you can change your other account to use that email address. Send me an email off-list with the email address you'd like to delete, and I can take care of it.

Mark 


locked Re: question regarding linking groups with another email address

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
What happens, if you change it through the profile?

----- Original Message -----
From: Steph <hsrsp@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:48 am
Subject: [beta] question regarding linking groups with another email address



Good evening all,
I just discovered that my other email address that is with my ISP is registered with Groups.io. Without unsubscribing from my groups especially groups that I own and re-subscribing to them with my other email address, is there a way I can link my groups with my other address? Thanks!


Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: question regarding linking groups with another email address

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steph <hsrsp@...> wrote:
Good evening all,
I just discovered that my other email address that is with my ISP is registered with Groups.io.  Without unsubscribing from my groups especially groups that I own and re-subscribing to them with my other email address, is there a way I can link my groups with my other address?  Thanks!

Currently there is no way to "merge" email addresses in the system. If the other email address is not subscribed to anything, I can just delete it for you and then you can change your other account to use that email address. Send me an email off-list with the email address you'd like to delete, and I can take care of it.

Mark 


locked Re: Blank lines behaving oddly in plain text messages #bug

 

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Shal Farley <shalfarley@...> wrote:

There's still something odd happening to blank lines in plain text messages, at least those I submit by email. For example, compare the presentation of this message with its view source:
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/4847

A blank line disappeared after the paragraph "It goes away when you take it away." And extras appeared after each quote.

And I think the quote bars are being a little greedy about extending into the blank lines above and below them.

Good catch. I've fixed the missing blank line as well as removing some of the greed around the block quotes.

The code to do all that is a bit messy. I spent the day working to clean it up a bit and add some test cases. Please let me know if you see any other issues.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked question regarding linking groups with another email address

Steph Mathews <hsrsp@...>
 

Good evening all,
I just discovered that my other email address that is with my ISP is registered with Groups.io. Without unsubscribing from my groups especially groups that I own and re-subscribing to them with my other email address, is there a way I can link my groups with my other address? Thanks!


locked Re: SPOILER SPACE TEST

 

Rajmund,

Hello Shal, is anyone welcome to join for test purposes?
Sure.

-- Shal


locked Re: "P" next to member name

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

 Terry the subject was about an option that is not available. 
Before P, member should reply to the questionnaire and not able to read or participate
with the group until 1- the  questionnaire is submitted to moderator and  once the member submits
the first post to the forum for moderation .  P would then fall into place.

Vickie

 











From: Terry S <apacapacas@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

Vickie - How can a member participate in the group if he can't read messages until after he has a "P" by his name?

Terry S
--
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling, 1901 - 1994





On 1/6/2016 7:25 PM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:
Shal >>>>P' ~ may post without moderation,
                   'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and 
                    'NP' ~ not allowed to post. 


 
" M "  Will  newbie members be able to read messages anyway?
 I prefer they not see group messages until they have P status
From experience newbie members  won't bother to reply   to  the questionnaire sent to them
upon joining  because some just want  to  get the group  members emails in the forum. 

M  though they are moderated   ideally they should not be able to read the group forum or members emails
or receive group messages. until status   is  changed to P 
In my group privacy is very important and members emails is very important to them to keep private  the group private until the member
shows participation with the group.


 
Vickie




From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: The badges on the My Groups page currently match those on the Members list.]

J,

> So in a group that is all moderated, does an unmoderated member have a
> 'P' next to their name?

In any kind of group, a member with the "Not moderated" override would have a 'P' next to their name.

> I just find it confusing to have a separate notation 'P' that really
> just means 'not M.'

'P' does not mean 'not M'.

There are five cases, all of which are of interest to a moderator looking at their Members list:

'P' = Override: not moderated,
'M' = Override: moderated,
'NuM' = Override: new user moderated,
'NP' = Override: not allowed to post, and of course
(blank) = Default group policy

Even in the case of a member looking at their Your Groups list, there are an irreducible three cases, if you combine the effect of group and individual settings:

'P' ~ may post without moderation,
'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and
'NP' ~ not allowed to post.

NOTE: the above meanings on the Your Groups list is a suggestion only. Currently they are implemented to exactly match your Posting Privilege in each group (the top five cases), unaltered by the group's settings. If you show no badge for a group, then you must refer to the group's settings to see how your posts would be handled.

-- Shal













locked Re: "P" next to member name

Terry S
 

Vickie - How can a member participate in the group if he can't read messages until after he has a "P" by his name?

Terry S
--
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling, 1901 - 1994





On 1/6/2016 7:25 PM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:
Shal >>>>P' ~ may post without moderation,
                   'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and 
                    'NP' ~ not allowed to post. 


 
" M "  Will  newbie members be able to read messages anyway?
 I prefer they not see group messages until they have P status
From experience newbie members  won't bother to reply   to  the questionnaire sent to them
upon joining  because some just want  to  get the group  members emails in the forum. 

M  though they are moderated   ideally they should not be able to read the group forum or members emails
or receive group messages. until status   is  changed to P 
In my group privacy is very important and members emails is very important to them to keep private  the group private until the member
shows participation with the group.


 
Vickie




From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] "P" next to member name

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: The badges on the My Groups page currently match those on the Members list.]

J,

> So in a group that is all moderated, does an unmoderated member have a
> 'P' next to their name?

In any kind of group, a member with the "Not moderated" override would have a 'P' next to their name.

> I just find it confusing to have a separate notation 'P' that really
> just means 'not M.'

'P' does not mean 'not M'.

There are five cases, all of which are of interest to a moderator looking at their Members list:

'P' = Override: not moderated,
'M' = Override: moderated,
'NuM' = Override: new user moderated,
'NP' = Override: not allowed to post, and of course
(blank) = Default group policy

Even in the case of a member looking at their Your Groups list, there are an irreducible three cases, if you combine the effect of group and individual settings:

'P' ~ may post without moderation,
'M' ~ posts will be moderated, and
'NP' ~ not allowed to post.

NOTE: the above meanings on the Your Groups list is a suggestion only. Currently they are implemented to exactly match your Posting Privilege in each group (the top five cases), unaltered by the group's settings. If you show no badge for a group, then you must refer to the group's settings to see how your posts would be handled.

-- Shal










locked Re: SPOILER SPACE TEST

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello Shal, is anyone welcome to join for test purposes?

----- Original Message -----
From: Shal Farley <@Shal>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: [beta] SPOILER SPACE TEST



Brenda,

I'm going to test in here how spoiler space works...
You're welcome to use my test group for experiments, rather than run them here.

-- Shal
https://groups.io/g/shalstest



Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: TO MARK: Very Important Question

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Not Mark, but groups.io is the home page.

----- Original Message -----
From: Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:53 pm
Subject: [beta] TO MARK: Very Important Question



Mark,

If I want to send someone over here to join groups.io, what is the best link to send them to?

For example, what link if they want to simply create a groups.io account and browse ?

What link if they want to create their own group?

What link if they want to read Beta and check it out without joining yet?

I use bookmarks to get around in here, so I have no idea what links would be best for what.

Thanks,

Brenda





Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: SPOILER SPACE TEST

 

Brenda,

I'm going to test in here how spoiler space works...
You're welcome to use my test group for experiments, rather than run them here.

-- Shal
https://groups.io/g/shalstest


locked Re: how to schedule files to go out automatically?

Nightowl >8#
 

J_catlady wrote:>> If I were literally a salesperson for it, I'd be constantly having to explain this away, promise that it's coming soon, etc.<<

That's what I've had to do with the groups that need the database.

Fortunately, it's being implemented now and I can actually tell them it's in the works. :)

Hang in there, Olivia!

Brenda


locked TO MARK: Very Important Question

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark,

If I want to send someone over here to join groups.io, what is the best link to send them to?

For example, what link if they want to simply create a groups.io account and browse ?

What link if they want to create their own group?

What link if they want to read Beta and check it out without joining yet?

I use bookmarks to get around in here, so I have no idea what links would be best for what.

Thanks,

Brenda


locked Re: SPOILER SPACE TEST

Nightowl >8#
 

YAY!!!! It doesn't bunch up!!!!

This has been a test. :)

Brenda


locked SPOILER SPACE TEST

Nightowl >8#
 

Okay....

I'm going to test in here how spoiler space works...

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

SPOILER SPACE

Fooled ya! No spoiler here!

Brenda


locked Re: Modifying size of Wiki tables

 

I know they CAN be complicated, but it seems to me that adding or removing rows or columns shouldn't be too difficult.


locked Re: Suggestion group name and request to enhance pending message screen

Mark Fletcher
 

Hi Jennifer,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Christian <jhchristian@...> wrote:

What I would like:   In the pending message view, it would be very convenient to (a) SEE the author's email address AND (b) click a button that says "email to member".    Or maybe when we click the link to "see the member", the "send email to member" option would be right there.   In fact, that might be a solution to more than one problem.

I just changed it so that the sending email address is always displayed on that page. When viewing a pending message, if you click the 'View Member' button at the bottom, that takes you to their subscription, which has a button 'Send Message' that lets you email them.

Hope this helps.
Mark 


locked Re: "P" next to member name

Duane
 

You ARE misunderstanding. The system doesn't make any overrides, only you can do that. When you override the system, there should be an indicator that the system is no longer in control, such as P. Simply change the person to Default Group Policy, the P goes away, and they can post without moderation if the group isn't moderated.

The system ALLOWS overrides, but would never assign anyone a P on its own. Therefor, no reason for it to "deal with it".

Duane