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locked Re: New Feature: Polls

 

I just wanted to check on something. I see that plain text posts take me to the web page to vote. So if I have a group set to plain text, and someone is only getting emails from the group and didn't have a login set up, would they be able to vote? I don't see this as a big problem, but a reason to set up a login password.

Dano


locked Re: Another interesting poll

Duane
 

When creating a Poll, there's an option to show results now or when it's closed. This one won't show the results until it's closed. It would be nice to have a line that says "Results available after the poll closes" where the Show Results button is for this type.

Duane


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Duane
 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 09:18 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
One nice thing about treating polls as specialized messages is that when
you edit a poll, it gets resent to the group, and you can view the diffs
between different versions.

Mark
I keep forgetting about that. I usually edit as Moderator and always select Save Without Sending in that case.

Thanks,
Duane


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Terry S
 

The only existing answer that should be changed when someone casts a second vote is the first vote cast by that voter. 

If the pollster is adding a new answer or changing an existing answer, then all answers should be changed and the voters notified that their votes have been canceled out due to an editing change and they should cast a new vote.

Does that make sense?

Terry S
--
"When women are depressed, they eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking." - Elayne Boosler



On 10/27/2015 8:10 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

Question:  If you start a poll, then need to add or change a choice later, what happens?
1) The new choice/edit is added, but no existing votes change.
2) The new choice/edit is added and all votes are reset.
3) Polls can't be changed after there are any votes.


Right now, existing answers are not erased when a poll is edited. Should they be?

Thanks,
Mark 




locked Re: Another interesting poll

Terry S
 

I found no 'Show Results' button on this poll.

I'm using the latest version of Firefox and Windows XP.

Terry S
--
"When women are depressed, they eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking." - Elayne Boosler


On 10/27/2015 8:09 PM, JohnF via Groups.io wrote:

A new poll has been created:

What do you think of polls that offer multiple choices and don't show the results immediately?

1. I love them!
2. I hate them!
3. I selected both of the above just to be obnoxious!

Vote Now





locked Re: New Feature: Polls

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

That's the way Yahoo did it and I hated it.  When you thought of a new choice a day or two later, you started over or didn't add it.  As Carlos said, it was a pain for group members.  In some cases, we started a new poll after the first one closed with the new choices and the top ones from the old just so we could get a better idea of what the best response was.  I vote for leaving existing votes.  Many of those that are interested would check on the status and see the new choices..

One nice thing about treating polls as specialized messages is that when you edit a poll, it gets resent to the group, and you can view the diffs between different versions.

Mark


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Duane
 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 05:10 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Right now, existing answers are not erased when a poll is edited. Should
they be?

Thanks,
Mark
That's the way Yahoo did it and I hated it. When you thought of a new choice a day or two later, you started over or didn't add it. As Carlos said, it was a pain for group members. In some cases, we started a new poll after the first one closed with the new choices and the top ones from the old just so we could get a better idea of what the best response was. I vote for leaving existing votes. Many of those that are interested would check on the status and see the new choices.

Duane


locked Early Emails Shown #bug

 
Edited

An email mentioned early in the message, like nobody@nowhere.com, is edited out when viewing the message, but on the messages list where the first line of each message is shown, the email is displayed in full, even to users who are not logged in. It is edited out in Thread View but not Message View.

I noticed because many replies start with the "On date, user <email> wrote:" types of quotes. These email addresses show up in the messages list.

JohnF


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

 

How about giving the user editing the poll the choice to discard or keep all previous answers, and the user will decide which is most appropriate in their situation.

JohnF


locked Re: Another interesting poll

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:15 PM, JohnF via Groups.io <johnf1686@...> wrote:

Of course, one minor detail: It didn't ask me when the poll is considered closed, and I don't see a "Close Poll" option as the poll creator.  Nor can I see the results so far myself, either, so I'm in the dark as much as everyone else.

Right now, to close a poll (or to edit it), hit the Edit link when viewing a poll in the archives. It’ll bring back the Add Poll page with your existing poll, and a button at the bottom to Close It (or Reopen an already closed poll).

Mark


locked Re: Another interesting poll

 

My real point of creating that poll, of course, is to see what it would be like. It looks like votes are cast the instant you check a box or select a radio button, because you can't show results if the option to hide them until the poll has closed has been selected.

Of course, one minor detail: It didn't ask me when the poll is considered closed, and I don't see a "Close Poll" option as the poll creator. Nor can I see the results so far myself, either, so I'm in the dark as much as everyone else.

I would suggest a "Cast Vote" or "Change Vote" button, because people aren't used to having checkboxes and radio buttons having immediate effect on the web. And of course, if I say not to display results until the poll closes, I should be able to say when the poll closes, too.


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Carlos
 


1 sounds like the most flexible.  It also means less work for members who have already voted.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] New Featu Polls

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

Question:  If you start a poll, then need to add or change a choice later, what happens?
1) The new choice/edit is added, but no existing votes change.
2) The new choice/edit is added and all votes are reset.
3) Polls can't be changed after there are any votes.


Right now, existing answers are not erased when a poll is edited. Should they be?

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

Question:  If you start a poll, then need to add or change a choice later, what happens?
1) The new choice/edit is added, but no existing votes change.
2) The new choice/edit is added and all votes are reset.
3) Polls can't be changed after there are any votes.


Right now, existing answers are not erased when a poll is edited. Should they be?

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Another interesting poll

 

What do you think of polls that offer multiple choices and don't show the results immediately?

Results

See Who Responded


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Jim Poston <poston@...> wrote:

Polls are awesome!

Thanks!
 
The layout is a little confusing.  Is your vote recorded when you click a
radio button?  Or when you Show Results?  When you Show Results,
there's a link to Vote.

Your vote is recorded when you check the radio or checkbox button (which is used depends on whether your poll allows multiple responses). Show Results and Vote just toggle the display back and forth.

(I’ve fixed the poll display for long answers).


Mark


locked Re: an up-date regarding my friend not getting messages

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello Mark,
I am a BT internet user, their site is horrible, generally, not much you can do. Other provider is also having issues with them.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io
To: beta@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:03:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [beta] an up-date regarding my friend not getting messages

Hi Adrien,

Your friend is Amanda with a btinternet.com account, right? Her account was
bouncing. Normally, when you go to the website and your account is
bouncing, it'll display a banner saying as such with a link to unbounce
your account. There was a bug, so that banner didn't display for her. I've
fixed that and I've unbounced her account.

Unfortunately, I've noticed over the past several months that btinternet.com
has had issues. They will not accept email from us for periods of time,
which explains her bouncing status. I've tried to find contact information
or guidelines so that we can register with them, as I've done with several
other ISPs, but their website is a bit impenetrable. So I'm not sure what I
can do.

Please pass this along to her, as I'm not sure my support email response
will get back to her.

Thanks,
Mark

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Adrien Collins <
adriencollins22160@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

Have just heard from my friend, she thought she had fixed
the problem but she still isn't getting mail from any
groups.io group, not sure what else to suggest to her, I am
wondering if her isp is blocking the domain.

Regards

Adrien


locked Re: an up-date regarding my friend not getting messages

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Well, what's the email provider?

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@gmail.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:51 pm
Subject: [beta] an up-date regarding my friend not getting messages



Hi

Have just heard from my friend, she thought she had fixed
the problem but she still isn't getting mail from any
groups.io group, not sure what else to suggest to her, I am
wondering if her isp is blocking the domain.

Regards

Adrien




Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: Either a bug-let or my error -- not sure which

 

Hi Jennifer,

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Jennifer Christian <jhchristian@...> wrote:

When I direct add a person who wants to get the Daily Digest to my group, I enter their name into the text box this way:   First Last<email@...>digest.

I then get a pop up screen saying the person has been added successfully.   When I go to the Members List, they are now there, but shown as having a "Single" rather than "Digest" subscription. 


I just tested it and it worked ok for me. There has to be at least one space between the > and the word digest, so like ‘First Last <email@...> digest’. Could that have been the issue?

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: New Feature: Polls

Duane
 

From my experiment: Your first vote is recorded when you Show Results, I think. (I forgot to Show Results before I voted.) If you change your mind, click Vote and it gives the choices with yours selected. If you choose a different one and Show Results, it shows the changed tallies. And you can change again any time.

I'd like to be able to set an automatic closing date when I start one. A month would probably be normal, though there could be "emergencies" when a week or two would be needed.

I'd like to see a forever hashtag #poll for these, automatically added if it's forgotten.

I think that I'd rather have them closed/locked by default, so no replies are possible. I can't really think of a situation where discussion would be needed, but I'm sure it could happen.

Question: If you start a poll, then need to add or change a choice later, what happens?
1) The new choice/edit is added, but no existing votes change.
2) The new choice/edit is added and all votes are reset.
3) Polls can't be changed after there are any votes.

Duane


locked Re: an up-date regarding my friend not getting messages

 

Hi Adrien,

Your friend is Amanda with a btinternet.com account, right? Her account was bouncing. Normally, when you go to the website and your account is bouncing, it’ll display a banner saying as such with a link to unbounce your account. There was a bug, so that banner didn’t display for her. I’ve fixed that and I’ve unbounced her account.

Unfortunately, I’ve noticed over the past several months that btinternet.com has had issues. They will not accept email from us for periods of time, which explains her bouncing status. I’ve tried to find contact information or guidelines so that we can register with them, as I’ve done with several other ISPs, but their website is a bit impenetrable. So I’m not sure what I can do.

Please pass this along to her, as I’m not sure my support email response will get back to her.

Thanks,
Mark

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...> wrote:
Hi

Have just heard from my friend, she thought she had fixed
the problem but she still isn't getting mail from any
groups.io group, not sure what else to suggest to her, I am
wondering if her isp is blocking the domain.

Regards

Adrien