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Re: Editing messages
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Linda Star-Freedman <donlin2@...> wrote:
That's how it works right now. There's an Edit Archives permission for moderators, and the original poster can also edit/delete their own message. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Editing messages
Linda
Hi Mark,
Permission to Edit should be
addressed in Group Settings. I think only the original poster or a
moderator should be permitted to edit messages...
Thanks,
Linda
From: Mark Fletcher
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:34 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Editing messages Ok, it's clear that I need to add functionality around editing
archived messages. Here's what's been asked for:
- On an edit, the message gets resent to the group
- Edits from members who are moderated (or are in a moderated group), must
be approved by the moderators
- Keep a list of revisions of each change (what changed and who made the
change)
- Ability to delete all of my messages from the group
Am I missing anything? I'll need to ponder how best to do some of
this.
Thanks,
Mark
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Mark,
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Re: Message threads versus topics
It may be worth checking out how Discourse handles replies. Discourse lists all messages linearly, but adds indicators to let you know which message a message is a reply to and also allows you to open a list of replies inline: http://www.discourse.org/. You can see this in the third image down the page.
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Re: Editing messages
"On an edit, the message gets resent to the group" - if this is the case, then there should be a prominent message telling people that their edit will cause another message to be sent
On 18 November 2014 10:34, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Attachments
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Everything's feasible in the exciting world of computer science! :) My concern with this comes back to abuse. I don't want groups.io to become an image serving company. I would want to come up with a system to throttle image serving in case a URL gets out in the wild and becomes popular.. I can do it, but it'll be some work and I'm not sure about where this would rank in terms of priorities. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Editing messages
Ok, it's clear that I need to add functionality around editing archived messages. Here's what's been asked for: - On an edit, the message gets resent to the group - Edits from members who are moderated (or are in a moderated group), must be approved by the moderators - Keep a list of revisions of each change (what changed and who made the change) - Ability to delete all of my messages from the group Am I missing anything? I'll need to ponder how best to do some of this. Thanks, Mark
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Mark,
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Re: Message threads versus topics
I think the first priority is to have the original message included in the reply, like a proper email client, so that people can reply in-line. I will bump that up in the todo list. Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:46 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:
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Re: Attachments
Mark,
It's easy enough to include links back to the website to view theIs it feasible to make those links work, regardless of whether the user is signed in? That's valuable for email-only members. The only "trick" to this I'm aware of is to include a randomly generated value in the URL so that having one such link in hand doesn't allow one to discover others. -- Shal
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Re: Bug in the Moderator Activity log
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Oops: That should be fixed now. But thank you, by the way, for making the names in that log be links to the membership record. Likewise the Subject lines of messages in the Messages and Member Activity logs. Very nice. Events likewise please? You're welcome, and logging of calendar events is much better now, including clickable calendar events (but only for newly created activity log events, everything before a couple minutes ago didn't have the data logged for that). Thanks, Mark
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Re: Message threads versus topics
Judy F.
Mark, I reply at the top of a message and if the message has a lot of questions, I do my reply below each question in BOLD. Is there a way that the various reply options could be offered and the member can decide what they like best?
Judy F. SW Florida - USA
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Hmm. I fall into the camp that dislikes the staggered message presentation view like this. I really dislike how Reddit does things, for example.
Is there much demand for a view like this?
We do have an expanded view, which displays messages in pure date order. It's not currently accessible anywhere, except by appending ?expanded=1 to a messages link, like:
If people like that view, I could add a toggle in the messages view.
Thanks, Mark
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Mark,
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Re: Message threads versus topics
Mark,
Hmm. I fall into the camp that dislikes the staggered messageI don't use Reddit, but in any case I wouldn't want this as my only view - date sorted is more often useful. But some times I really need to be able see the proper context for a reply. It can help a lot when the person forgot to quote anything. At the moment I resort to searching for the In-Reply-To value among the Message-ID values in my email folder - which is really clumsy. Only lucky that my email client lets me search among the message headers. Maybe here in the 21st century there's a better way to visualize this than as an indented hierarchy view. Without getting too cutesy. Something like Fossil's timeline view (directed lines drawn beside the chronological list) for example might be overboard. http://fossil-scm.org/xfer/timeline -- Shal
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Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) / Mark / bcc
Cherrill <cdjamieson@...>
I use bcc a lot so that I can send the same message to several different places or different people;
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I believe I have seen the ‘undisclosed recipients’ on my other groups. I do that so I don’t put other peoples or other groups emails out to any other people. Cherrill "the most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love and to let it come in"
On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote: Ok, I understand now. You sent a message just using BCC, with no To or CC fields. Your email program doesn't insert a To header in that case. Other email programs, like Gmail, will add a To header like 'To: undisclosed-recipients;'. As a simple anti-spam check, we check to see that a message contains at least one To or CC header, because some spam are missing those fields. I guess I need to remove that check. Thanks, Mark On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Cherrill <cdjamieson@...> wrote:
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Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) / Mark / bcc
Ok, I understand now. You sent a message just using BCC, with no To or CC fields. Your email program doesn't insert a To header in that case. Other email programs, like Gmail, will add a To header like 'To: undisclosed-recipients;'. As a simple anti-spam check, we check to see that a message contains at least one To or CC header, because some spam are missing those fields. I guess I need to remove that check. Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Cherrill <cdjamieson@...> wrote:
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Delivery Status Notification (Failure) / Mark / bcc
Cherrill <cdjamieson@...>
I just tried a test message to both groups via bcc and this is the messsage I just got back.
Cherrill "the most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love and to let it come in" Begin forwarded message: Date: November 17, 2014 at 11:37:03 AM MST To: cdjamieson@... From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAILER-DAEMON@...> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) The following message to <coffeechocolatechitchat@groups.io> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 500-'Error: malformed email' Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp-out-01.shaw.ca Final-Recipient: rfc822;coffeechocolatechitchat@groups.io Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) Remote-MTA: dns; [66.175.222.12] Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 500-'Error: malformed email' (delivery attempts: 0) From: Cherrill <cdjamieson@...> Date: November 17, 2014 at 11:37:02 AM MST Subject: testing just a test message Cherrill "the most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love and to let it come in"
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Re: What is Facebook 2 (was Calendar is live)
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Yeah, that's a missing feature. It's on the todo list. Many of us were more comfortable with a Reply interface that more closely resembled an email message composition window after clicking "Reply". Not sure I understand. Click Reply and have it refresh to a new window instead of opening up inline? Thanks, Mark
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Re: Attachments
It's easy enough to include links back to the website to view the attachments, and that's on the todo list. Thanks, Mark
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@...> wrote: On 16/11/2014 01:27, Shal Farley wrote:
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Re: Message threads versus topics
Hmm. I fall into the camp that dislikes the staggered message presentation view like this. I really dislike how Reddit does things, for example. Is there much demand for a view like this? We do have an expanded view, which displays messages in pure date order. It's not currently accessible anywhere, except by appending ?expanded=1 to a messages link, like: If people like that view, I could add a toggle in the messages view. Thanks, Mark
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote: Mark,
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Re: Bug in message formatting - strikethrough doesn't "stick".
Shal, The issue was with what CSS we allow when displaying messages in the archive. We have to 'cook' any HTML messages before displaying them, to ensure that no malicious stuff is presented (javascript pointing to malware, for example). We're very conservative with what CSS is displayed. The HTML widget on the site generates strikethrough using the text-decoration CSS tag, which we were not permitting. I've whitelisted it, and now strikethrough should display. There are multiple ways to generate strikethrough (it's unclear to me which is best). Your email client probably generated strikethrough using an HTML tag, which we support. Thanks, Mark
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
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Re: questionbcc
Cherrill <cdjamieson@...>
Both my message and my co-owners message were sent on Saturday, but I don’t remember what time.
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My co-owners message was a picture which shows on our home page because I re-sent it for her on Sunday. They both were sent bcc to coffeechocolatechitchat@groups.io as well as our yahoo group. Both got to the yahoo group but we got notification that both were rejected by .io. thank you Cherrill "the most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love and to let it come in"
On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote: Hi Cherrill, I couldn't think of any reason why a message BCCed to a group on Groups.io wouldn't work, and I just tested it with a message to one of my groups, and it worked fine. If you send me the time you sent the message and the name of the group you sent it to, I can look through the logs and tell you why it was rejected (the reason should also be listed in the activity log for your group). Mark On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Cherrill <cdjamieson@...> wrote:
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Re: Attachments
Laurence Taylor
On 16/11/2014 01:27, Shal Farley wrote:
The key advantage is that allows members who read the group's archiveWould it be possible to have an option to include attachments in a digest? Another (now defunct) list operator used to do this, but I think if it is to be done it should be an option for the subscriber. There are groups where I take the digest because I am interested in the conversations but not in the attachments. -- rgds LAurence <><
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