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locked Re: rights and privliges of a co-owner verses a owner verses a moderator

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
LOL, that depends on the lists. Or so I believe, anyway.

----- Original Message -----
From: marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@gmail.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 4:25 am
Subject: [beta] rights and privliges of a co-owner verses a owner verses a moderator



Hi.
Was just intrested to know.
What rights and privliges does a owner , co-owner and moderator have on a group?
Just curious.
A friend asked me about this today.
So.
What happens if a co-owner does an action, could they then be kicked off the group, for doing some type of action, deemed inapropiate to the owner's wishes on how the groups Is managed.
What grounds could the co-owner or moderator or co-moderator could get be kicked off the admin, or being a member of that group.
Did try to find that out goolinggoogling, and could not seem to get to the help topics on the site.
Still looking for that link.
Marvin.
Sent from a Braille Sense


locked rights and privliges of a co-owner verses a owner verses a moderator

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi.

Was just intrested to know.

What rights and privliges does a owner , co-owner and moderator have on a group?

Just curious.

A friend asked me about this today.

So.

What happens if a co-owner does an action, could they then be kicked off the group, for doing some type of action, deemed inapropiate to the owner’s wishes on how the groups Is managed.

What grounds could the co-owner or moderator or co-moderator could get be kicked off the admin, or being a member of that group.

Did try to find that out goolinggoogling, and could not seem to get to the help topics on the site.

Still looking for that link.

Marvin.


locked Re: Group storage maxed out, deleting emailed photos is too cumbersome

 

Also there's no way to see if any of the photos are huge so I can delete those larger files first. Sort by file size?



locked Group storage maxed out, deleting emailed photos is too cumbersome

 

To delete older photos from the emailed photos folder I currently have to go to 

*Photos > Emailed Photos > Sort By > Posted 1-9. 
Then click on the oldest photo. 
Then click delete.
Repeat from * for each photo I want to delete.

My group space is currently maxed out so I can't upload any files. I'm sitting here deleting photos one at a time and it's taking forever/not changing anything about the max space. Over 4,700 photos have been sent through this group and we don't need to keep most of them. 

Is there a quick fix for deleting photos or giving us the ability to set a limit on the length of time a photo that is included in a group email is stored on the group site? Or a setting to allow photos to pass through the group and out to email but not be stored on the group site?

Would love to be able to just do batch deletes in this folder to get it cleaned up and bring down the group's storage volume quickly.

Mark, if you can do a batch delete in the Emailed Photos folder, my trishtrans group doesn't need anything saved in that folder that was posted more than 30 days ago.

Thanks
Trish


locked Re: Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

Carlos
 


Thanks.  They did receive the Email containing the link.  It seems that I should have paid closer attention to the text of the message.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
One of my members unintentionally marked a message from the group as spam and was automatically unsubscribed.  Short of having to wait the 3 days, is there any way I can allow this member to immediately resubscribe?


locked Re: Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

 

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
One of my members unintentionally marked a message from the group as spam and was automatically unsubscribed.  Short of having to wait the 3 days, is there any way I can allow this member to immediately resubscribe?
_._,_._,_
They should have received an email after they hit the spam button. The email contains a link to automatically resubscribe. Please let me know if they didn't receive the email or had problems with it.

Thanks,
Mark 


locked Re: Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

Carlos
 

Thanks.  Indeed that would work.  Although I'm still curious if there's any way an owner can override this.

----- Original Message -----
From: Linda
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

Have him subscribe with an alternate email address.
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 8:49 PM
Subject: [beta] Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members
 
One of my members unintentionally marked a message from the group as spam and was automatically unsubscribed.  Short of having to wait the 3 days, is there any way I can allow this member to immediately resubscribe?


locked Re: Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

Linda
 

Have him subscribe with an alternate email address.
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 8:49 PM
Subject: [beta] Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members
 
One of my members unintentionally marked a message from the group as spam and was automatically unsubscribed.  Short of having to wait the 3 days, is there any way I can allow this member to immediately resubscribe?


locked Marking as spam automatically unsubscribes members

Carlos
 

One of my members unintentionally marked a message from the group as spam and was automatically unsubscribed.  Short of having to wait the 3 days, is there any way I can allow this member to immediately resubscribe?


locked Re: Digest headers

ro-esp
 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 09:58 pm, JohnF <johnf1686@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 08:20 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
This is a digest of messages sent to the Group Name group.

The group email address is groupname@groups.io
The group home is at: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname
this could be shortened to one line:
This is a digest of groupname@iogroups.com, https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname


Do not reply to this email. To reply to one of the messages in the digest,
click on the link at the bottom of the message.
Like I said a long time ago, sometimes replying to a digest can be very practical, and if the subject is changed it should be accepted in the thread that the subject belongs to.
What you need to avoid is entire digests being sent back to the list, and having messages under pointless subjectlines.

Well, I guess the first question is, what happens if someone does reply to the message? Like "Get me off this list!" Does it go to someone, or > does it bounce, or does it post a new topic?
If it doesn't have a decent subjectline, it should not post a new topic, nor go to someone. It should trigger an automatic response saying things like

- please use a proper subjectline so your message will reach the right people
- if you want to unsubscribe, go here www.linkatdomain.xy or contact the moderator(s) here: address@groups.io
- please delete extraneous quotes before clicking "send"

groetjes, Ronaldo


locked Re: Digest headers

ro-esp
 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 08:20 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Right now, there's a lot of boilerplate at the top of digest messages.
At some point I will switch to HTML digests,
What for? I absolutely hate it when I receive a message, edit out extraneous and privacy-sensitive parts before I forward (part of) it, only to see that somehow automagically the entire thing appears in other places

but in the meantime, I've
gotten some complaints from people, especially when viewing emails on
phones, that all this boilerplate makes getting to the actual messages
difficult. I put the boilerplate there because people who want to
unsubscribe generally don't read to the end of the digests.
that's one of the unfortunate consequences of topposting/TOFU

What do you all think about moving some of this stuff to the bottom of digests?
I think that's where unsubscription-recipes are supposed to be...

[to be continued]
groetjes, Ronaldo


locked Re: Digest headers

Jennifer Christian
 

I like Mark's changes -- because I think list-serv emails should have the MOST catchy and important stuff at the top -- what the reader sees first. Personally I am much less likely to even READ emails that have boilerplate at the top. The CONTENT is what makes me engage and read on. As moderators, our goal is to ENGAGE and deliver real VALUE to our members -- not help cranky people unsubscribe (which admittedly is important and required by law, but not the POINT.) Thus, on every message and every screen, the goal is to MINIMIZE anything which is not NEW CONTENT or otherwise useful to the careless, fast-moving, fickle readers of today. So, Mark, if you could skip the line break between the two top sentences in your proposed simplified version, that will get the reader to the content even faster. One question: how will switching to HTML digests change things? Jennifer Christian


locked Thread Handling

 

Hi, I have some difficulty with Group members who only use E-mail and never visit the site.   They insist on including the full text of the original e-mail in each and every reply, and say they want this in order to be able to understand threads fully.

I do understand this, but it doesn't half clutter up the threads on the Web site!

Two things might help :

1. Is it possible to have the threads as a push-down stack, which is generally how people see e-mails when they arrive?

2. I notice that sometimes, previous e-mails included in an e-mail are suppressed and only open on pressing a little three dots symbol.   This seems like a great idea - is  there any way of making this happen all the time instead of just sometimes?

Best Regards
Alastair Sharp


locked Re: Digest headers

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello Linda,
LOL, sorry about that, I have missed that. Although, I think what got me mixed up to was the fact that many listers just respond to digests, and they just leave the subject. If necessary, they'll change the to field. Thanks again!

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda" <lindon@thetravelzine.com
To: beta@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 04:51:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [beta] Digest headers

Hi Rajmund.
It says: �쏱lease do not reply to this message. If you would like to reply to any of the messages listed below please click on the link of the message you would like to reply too.��
Linda

From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 2:08 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Digest headers

Hello,
Maybe mention to change the subject?


locked Re: Digest headers

Linda
 

Hi Rajmund.
It says: “Please do not reply to this message.  If you would like to reply to any of the messages listed below please click on the link of the message you would like to reply too.”
Linda
 

From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [beta] Digest headers
 
Hello,
Maybe mention to change the subject?


locked Re: Digest headers

Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
Maybe mention to change the subject?

----- Original Message -----
From: Steph <hsrsp@inbox.com>
To: beta@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:41 am
Subject: Re: [beta] Digest headers



Hello Mark,
This is how I think that this should go.

From: GroupName@groups.io
Subject: Digest of messages for 10/06/2015

For your information:
Please do not reply to this message. If you would like to reply to any of the messages listed below please click on the link of the message you would like to reply too.

List Preview of messages:

Digest Message Footer:
Information to unsubscribe and other group information.

That's my vote that you should do with this.


From: Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:20 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Digest headers


Hi All,


Right now, there's a lot of boilerplate at the top of digest messages.. This is the template:


----
This is a digest of messages sent to the Group Name group.


The group email address is groupname@groups.io
The group home is at: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname
To change your subscription, visit: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname/editsub
To unsubscribe, visit: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname/leave/xyzzy


Do not reply to this email. To reply to one of the messages in the digest, click on the link at the bottom of the message.
----


At some point I will switch to HTML digests, but in the meantime, I've gotten some complaints from people, especially when viewing emails on phones, that all this boilerplate makes getting to the actual messages difficult. I put the boilerplate there because people who want to unsubscribe generally don't read to the end of the digests.


What do you all think about moving some of this stuff to the bottom of digests?


Thanks,
Mark
Sent from a Braille Sense


locked Re: Digest headers

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 08:20 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
This is a digest of messages sent to the Group Name group.

The group email address is groupname@groups.io
The group home is at: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname
To change your subscription, visit:
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname/editsub
To unsubscribe, visit: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname/leave/xyzzy

Do not reply to this email. To reply to one of the messages in the digest,
click on the link at the bottom of the message.
Well, I guess the first question is, what happens if someone does reply to the message? Like "Get me off this list!" Does it go to someone, or does it bounce, or does it post a new topic?

If it bounces, you could include more details in the bounce about what this is and how to get off.

For the boilerplate, I would recommend:

This is a digest of messages sent to the Group Name group.

For more information and how to reply to a message or unsubscribe, see the bottom of this digest.

Then put everything at the bottom, ideally including "This digest was sent to <email-address>" in case that's forwarding to some innocent person.

JohnF


locked Re: Digest headers

Steph <hsrsp@...>
 

Hello Mark,
This is how I think that this should go.
 
From:    GroupName@groups.io
Subject:    Digest of messages for 10/06/2015
 
For your information:
Please do not reply to this message.  If you would like to reply to any of the messages listed below please click on the link of the message you would like to reply too.
 
List Preview of messages:
 
Digest Message Footer:
Information to unsubscribe and other group information.
 
That's my vote that you should do with this.

Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:20 PM
Subject: [beta] Digest headers

Hi All,

Right now, there's a lot of boilerplate at the top of digest messages. This is the template:

----
This is a digest of messages sent to the Group Name group.

The group email address is groupname@groups.io
To change your subscription, visit: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname/editsub

Do not reply to this email. To reply to one of the messages in the digest, click on the link at the bottom of the message.
----

At some point I will switch to HTML digests, but in the meantime, I've gotten some complaints from people, especially when viewing emails on phones, that all this boilerplate makes getting to the actual messages difficult. I put the boilerplate there because people who want to unsubscribe generally don't read to the end of the digests.

What do you all think about moving some of this stuff to the bottom of digests?

Thanks,
Mark


locked Updates to Trello

Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New card "Ability for group owners to charge subscription fees." was added to list "Features".


[Beta] The lime label "Features" was added to the card "Ability for group owners to charge subscription fees.".


[Beta] New card "A group setting that would keep members' email addresses/identities hidden." was added to list "Features".


[Beta] The lime label "Features" was added to the card "A group setting that would keep members' email addresses/identities hidden.".


locked Digest headers

 

Hi All,

Right now, there's a lot of boilerplate at the top of digest messages. This is the template:

----
This is a digest of messages sent to the Group Name group.

The group email address is groupname@groups.io
To change your subscription, visit: https://groups.io/org/groupsio/groupname/editsub

Do not reply to this email. To reply to one of the messages in the digest, click on the link at the bottom of the message.
----

At some point I will switch to HTML digests, but in the meantime, I've gotten some complaints from people, especially when viewing emails on phones, that all this boilerplate makes getting to the actual messages difficult. I put the boilerplate there because people who want to unsubscribe generally don't read to the end of the digests.

What do you all think about moving some of this stuff to the bottom of digests?

Thanks,
Mark