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moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 08:28 AM, Andy wrote:
Sorry to make fun, but it was you who started the new topic.
Haha! Yes, I started the new topic. But I wasn't aware of the old topic (was not following it) so it looked to me like the opposite. ;)
 
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moderated Re: Drafts completely disappearing #bug

 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 08:25 AM, Andy wrote:
I always wait 15 seconds or so, before clicking anywhere to leave the Draft edit page
Do you mean that you wait 15 seconds after typing your last character? In the cases I'm talking about, I've already spent about 10-15 minutes composing the draft. It should have saved already, even if it misses the last sentence or something. But it's always completely, totally blank except for my signature.
 
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moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

Andy I
 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:13 AM, Janet_Catlady wrote:
This is confusing. Why was a new topic started for this?

Sorry to make fun, but it was you who started the new topic.

This topic started 2 days ago.

But we are all human (fortunately).  Well, OK, I'll grant you that some might consider themselves more feline than human.  :-)

Andy


moderated Re: Drafts completely disappearing #bug

Andy I
 

I also want to mention that I always wait 15 seconds or so, before clicking anywhere to leave the Draft edit page.  I figure that if I leave the page too soon, it will not have saved.  I'm sure 15 seconds is more than enough time.

I thought Mark added something (a few months ago) that would show when a draft was being saved, similar to what Gmail does.  But I don't see that anymore.  If it was there, it might tell you if your drafts are not being saved promptly.

Andy


moderated Re: Drafts completely disappearing #bug

Andy I
 

I just tried it, and it does NOT happen to me.  I'm using Chrome.  When I go back to my draft (here in this group), it's there and its contents are there.

I have not tried Firefox, and won't.

One thing to be aware of - probably unrelated - is that the menu bar on the left does not always refresh, so I may need to do a complete screen reset occasionally.  But I think that only affects the presence (and number) of Drafts that it tells you you have.  e.g., I may write a message, so now there's a new Draft, but it doesn't show up in the menu bar on the left until I refresh the browser's screen.

Andy


moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

 

Oh, I see, it seems to be a coincidence! I thought these replies were regarding my bug this morning. Maybe should still be merged?
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moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

 

This is confusing. Why was a new topic started for this? It's hard to follow at this point. I'm looking for replies I thought I saw but they turn out to be in the new thread. Maybe Mark can merge.
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moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 08:04 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
opening a draft for a minimum period of time could cause a save to be actioned and the timer to be reset. 
I don't understand what you're saying here.
 
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moderated Re: Drafts completely disappearing #bug

 

Mark,

I was going to tell you (and had composed a draft telling you) that I didn't know whether it happened in any groups besides my own, but it just happened in THIS group (beta). I had composed the draft and gone into my group to check on the terminology used for "View all [n] messages in this topic," because I was going to report to you that that's one of the things I've been doing that's been resulting in the draft being lost. When I came back to this group to continue my draft containing that info, it was blank. Here is what I had written up to that point:

I waited a week to report this to make sure it was happening consistently, because I guessed you were going to say that you couldn't reproduce it and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't imagining it. It's consistent. I'm using Firefox, and I'm composing in the message-composition box. Typically what I do is start a draft, and then go into something like the Files section to look something up, or click on "View all [n] messages in this topic" to see what transpired in the past on the subject. I meticulously avoid using the "back" arrows since that's what was causing my losing of drafts a year or so ago, and which was discussed at great length then.

Thanks.

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moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 03:35 PM, Duane wrote:
I believe it would be more consistent to have the timer update only if the draft is saved, not just opened.
Aren't draft messages saved automatically (there's no Save button) so in theory, opening a draft for a minimum period of time could cause a save to be actioned and the timer to be reset.  Just a thought.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Drafts completely disappearing #bug

 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 7:44 AM Janet_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
To clarify: the draft exists but is always completely blank when you go back to it.

I can't reproduce this. Is anyone else seeing this?

Also, J, can you give me some more information? What browser are you using? Are you composing in the HTML editor or plain text? Are you seeing this in multiple groups?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Drafts completely disappearing #bug

 

To clarify: the draft exists but is always completely blank when you go back to it.
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moderated Re: No "Add Pictures" icon in wiki editor #bug

Donna ʕ•́ᴥ•̀ʔっ
 

the icon is there again for me but it is not working.  I click on it and nothing happens.


moderated Drafts completely disappearing #bug

 

This is a bad one and I've noticed it over the past week or so. I compose a very detailed draft, go outside of the draft to look something up (I am NOT using the back arrow), and when I come back to the draft, it is gone. Poof. Into thin air. And I need to compose it all over again. The only way to save a draft now seems to be to always remember to keep two windows open. Something very, very wrong here....
Thanks.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Drafts #suggestion

Duane
 

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 11:34 AM, Andy wrote:
I think it would be better to reset the timer whenever the draft is opened again for editing.
I believe it would be more consistent to have the timer update only if the draft is saved, not just opened.

Duane


moderated Show end dates and times for events in the Upcoming Events message #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

in the Upcoming Events messages, the start and end times are shown for an event that occurs within a single day, such as:

When:
Sunday, May 22, 2022, 9:00am to 4:30pm
(GMT +1:00) Europe/London

However, for a multi-day event, only the start date is shown:

When:
Sunday, May 26, 2022

Having the end date and time shown would be helpful for multi-day events, such as:.

When:
Thursday, May 26, 2022 7:00am to Friday, June 3rd, 2022 5:00pm

For events that have the 'All day' option checked when created, adding text such as '(All day)' after the date(s) would be good and this would also work for events that are not multi-day:

When:
Thursday, May 26, 2022 to Friday, June 3rd, 2022 (All day)

When:
Thursday, May 26, 2022 (All day)


Regards
Andy


moderated Signature being included when the option is not checked #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I've just started a new topic via the website for a suggestion and my signature text was included in the message even though the option for this is not currently checked on my Beta subscription settings: It was OK yesterday so I'm wondering if the fix for the bug Duane reported (which was related to signatures) was the cause?

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Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Notification from name change #update

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 06:31 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The subject tag has been added but the email address is still shown as before:
The email address is still also shown in the New Subscriber notification:



Regards
Andy:


moderated Re: Display name change not always recorded in Activity Log #bug

 

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:59 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

I've seen that some members change their display name but on occasions, there is no entry in the activity log for this. I have just figured out that if you reset a group profile and that reset causes the display name to change (by taking the value from the overall profile), it's not recorded in the activity log for the group.   If you update the display name on the overall profile and the change is propagated to lower level groups and subgroups, an activity log entry is created on each one.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Display name change not always recorded in Activity Log #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I've seen that some members change their display name but on occasions, there is no entry in the activity log for this. I have just figured out that if you reset a group profile and that reset causes the display name to change (by taking the value from the overall profile), it's not recorded in the activity log for the group.   If you update the display name on the overall profile and the change is propagated to lower level groups and subgroups, an activity log entry is created on each one.

There is also a bit of inconsistency in the naming for the profiles. The profile selection button shows but the update button at the bottom of the page says

Regards
Andy

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