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moderated Re: Add More Prefix Ignore Cases to Threading Algorithm #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

Mark,
I've also been getting [external] noted on my original msg  in some replies from ngos and financial companies.
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Bob Bellizzi
FuchsFriends@groups.io online  support  group for corneal dystrophy patients & caregivers
The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation 


moderated Re: Add More Prefix Ignore Cases to Threading Algorithm #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've added 'Ré:' and 'Objet :' to the list of subject line prefixes that indicate replies. I've also added '[EXT]' to the list of prefixes that we ignore when figuring out whether a subject is a reply or not.

Cheers,
Mark


moderated Re: Problems with delivery to iinet.com.au #misc

 

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:02 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Mark -- This domain seems to be bouncing everything groups.io is sending. This includes "email me a link" to login, so many folks can't even reset their bouncing status.

I've sent an email to postmaster@..., but I'm not sure there's anything else I can do. It would help if anyone affected by this could complain to iinet.com.au and ask that we be unblocked.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Problems with delivery to iinet.com.au #misc

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- This domain seems to be bouncing everything groups.io is sending. This includes "email me a link" to login, so many folks can't even reset their bouncing status.

There have been several reports to both Group_help and GMF. Not sure if you can do anything about it, but thought you'd want to know.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Database #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 06:14 PM, Duane wrote:
The field/column names aren't shown on the edit page (nor on the page to display a single row.)
Duane -- Clear out the existing entry and the column name will appear as gray "placeholder" text. Not sure that's optimal, but it may be by design.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Database #bug

Duane
 

I just noticed a bug while editing an entry in a table.  The field/column names aren't shown on the edit page (nor on the page to display a single row.)

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: Add More Prefix Ignore Cases to Threading Algorithm #suggestion

 

On 2022-01-30 11:15, brio50 via groups.io wrote:
I propose that in addition to “Re:”, any labels of the syntax “[.*]” be added to this current algorithm. If a regular expression were used then it would not depend on the content within the brackets, merely any subject with brackets would be ignored.

If by that you mean ignore anything (except the groupname) within [] then that could be problematic because there are words that are commonly used with square brackets.


On 2022-01-30 12:21, Duane via groups.io wrote:
One of our Canadian members creates a similar situation when the subject line of his replies via email becomes Objet : [GroupName], thus starting a new topic.  In one case, he replied several times, starting a new topic each time because it ended up as Objet : Objet : Objet : [GroupName].

What's up with Canadians, eh?  I also have a Canadian member in a group whose email replies add "Ré:" and it creates the exact same situation regarding topics.  I did report it back in December, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/31138.

Ideally it would be nice to have a textbox in Settings->Message Policies where the admin can specify any of those "ignore prefixes", so then it gets included in the master list when the message is checked for threading.  This way it can be left up to the admins to take care of it instead of having to be manually added by Mark to the master list when a situation like this arises.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Membership removal activity log #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

When a member is removed from the 'main' group (of a group with subgroups) the removal is only noted in the activity log of the main group. Could it also be logged in the subgroups they were a member of please?

Malcolm.

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Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@...


moderated Re: Bulk file move UI/UX #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 01/30/2022 09:26, Duane wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 11:19 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
To make the most recent files more visible and just be tidy, I create each year a directory with the name of the previous year and move the files there for historical reference. E.g., I create a directory called 2021
I use a similar tactic, but move the files every month so only the latest are in the main directory.  Adds up to the same amount of time over the year, but only a little bit each month.

Duane

I can see that. Our group is used to referring to the previous minutes in the current meeting, so I'd probably wind up with a two month window instead. At that point, once is year takes less remembering.

Another approach that might help is being able to set the default sort.  If I have files named 202101, 202102... then being able to specify reverse alphabetical by name would cause the most recent files to be first, instead of several pages back.

Best,

Glenn

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


moderated Re: Bulk file move UI/UX #suggestion

Duane
 

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 11:19 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
To make the most recent files more visible and just be tidy, I create each year a directory with the name of the previous year and move the files there for historical reference. E.g., I create a directory called 2021
I use a similar tactic, but move the files every month so only the latest are in the main directory.  Adds up to the same amount of time over the year, but only a little bit each month.

Duane


moderated Re: Add More Prefix Ignore Cases to Threading Algorithm #suggestion

Duane
 

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 10:34 AM, @brio wrote:
[Ext] [<groups.io group name>]
One of our Canadian members creates a similar situation when the subject line of his replies via email becomes Objet : [GroupName], thus starting a new topic.  In one case, he replied several times, starting a new topic each time because it ended up as Objet : Objet : Objet : [GroupName].

Duane


moderated Bulk file move UI/UX #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

It would be helpful if one could select multiple source files and/or directories and a target directory and have all of the selected source items moved to the target directory in a single action.

The UI I am thinking of would be checkboxes for all of the sources and a selector (like the current functionality) for the target, but I'm open to other implementations.

As a motivating example, as Secretary, I keep minutes, agendas, rosters for one of my groups and these each have monthly editions. To make the most recent files more visible and just be tidy, I create each year a directory with the name of the previous year and move the files there for historical reference. E.g., I create a directory called 2021, move the January minutes there, then the February minutes there... all the way out to December. This UX is kind of a PITA and it would be simpler to be able to do it all in one step.

Best,

Glenn
P.S. For those not in software design or related fields: UI is user interface, UX is user experience.

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


moderated Add More Prefix Ignore Cases to Threading Algorithm #suggestion

brio50@...
 

Per https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/6321/61677
it appears that threads with dissimilar subjects will be merged if the prefix “Re:” is recognized. We have a member that has additional labels added to their email subject on reply that foil automatic thread merging:

[Ext] [<groups.io group name>]

[Ext] Re: [<groups.io group name>]

I propose that in addition to “Re:”, any labels of the syntax “[.*]” be added to this current algorithm. If a regular expression were used then it would not depend on the content within the brackets, merely any subject with brackets would be ignored.

 


moderated Re: Can't Search Using My Screen-Reader #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:33 PM, Armando L. Vias wrote:
Hello. I am using a screen-reader (NVDA), and I can’t search the topics of a group. I can’t find the search text field in the topics view.
Armando -- Your screen resolution is probably too narrow, so you're being presented with the "mobile device" view of the web site.

Zooming out should help. In Chrome, hold down the Ctrl key while hitting the minus (-) key.

Am I doing something wrong?
Since this is unlikely to be a real bug, you might have posted your inquiry to the Group_help group first.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


moderated Can't Search Using My Screen-Reader #bug

Armando
 

Hello. I am using a screen-reader (NVDA), and I can’t search the topics of a group. I can’t find the search text field in the topics view. Am I doing something wrong? I am using Google Chrome as my web browser. Thank you.

 


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

January 28, 2022:

January 27, 2022:

  • APP: New version 1.2 Build 95 of the app is live in the app stores, that fixes renaming Files Discussion, links in Databases Discussion, and viewing Files and Photos Discussion

January 26, 2022:

  • CHANGE: Member notice emails will now use the group title in the From: line if there is one.

January 24, 2022:

  • NEW: In the group profile pages, there is a new Report Profile button, which behaves similarly to the other content reporting buttons. This is to comply with Google's requirement to have a reporting mechanism for user-generated content.
  • APP: In the app, when not logged in, no longer have the Find a Group link in the navbar. This is to comply with Google's requirement to have a reporting mechanism for user-generated content.
  • APP BUGFIX: Clicking a group in the group search results page would cause the top navbar to overlap the rest of the page until the app was restarted.
  • INTERNAL: Replaced an open source package we were using for parsing JWT tokens in the apiserver because of a security issue.
  • INTERNAL: Upgraded an open source package we were using for defanging HTML because of a security issue.
  • API: Temporarily disabled the Apple Login endpoints because an open source package we rely on depended on another package with a severe security issue.

The next #changelog will be published on February 4th.

Take care everyone.

Mark


locked Re: Answers to question re my "eGroups" suggestion; thanks for all your helpful replies. #suggestion

 

Hi all,

I think it’s safe to say that this topic has run its course, and then some. Locking.

Mark


locked Re: Answers to question re my "eGroups" suggestion; thanks for all your helpful replies. #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

If you wish to build a group encompanssing people of every skill and age and lack of skill you can't do it alone.
You need a group of moderatorrs with a wide spectrum of experience but who also are patient and  caring.
You need to antcipate what the issues may be and tun your core of moderators to handle them.
Our group has been operating for over 20 years and grew rapidly to about 3300 where it seems to  sustain as people come with ifccues and eventually leave after their rare eye disease is jo longer an issue.
To paraphrase the late Mayor Fiorello H Laguardia of New Yorik City, you gotta have "patience and fortitude"
Good luck
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Bob Bellizzi
FuchsFriends@groups.io online  support  group for corneal dystrophy patients & caregivers
The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation 


locked Re: Answers to question re my "eGroups" suggestion; thanks for all your helpful replies. #suggestion

Steven M
 

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:20 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Somehow, this entire thread now reminds me of:

https://deadspin.com/rainbow-cake-recipe-inspires-comment-apocalypse-1592575661

Best,

Glenn

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est
totally hilarious article! LOL! thanks for sending that! :-) XD XD


locked Re: Answers to question re my "eGroups" suggestion; thanks for all your helpful replies. #suggestion

 

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 04:20 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
this entire thread now reminds me of:
OMG OMG OMG this is the funniest thing I've read EVER!!!!!
 
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J

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