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locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

Andy I
 

Seriously, I thought this was a joke!  Especially with EGROUPS (eGroups) in the subject line.  That's cruel.


moderated “Infinite Chase” of the Actions button #suggestion

Jay Ballinger - N6SAC
 

I’m a big fan of the mobile app.

When viewing the Admin list of Members, I often need to send messages to the new members who conveniently appear at the top of the list.

But, after selecting them, I scroll down (push up?) to the Actions button, only to see it run away as the infinite scroll loads the next chunk.

Is it possible to add/move the Actions button to the button collection at the top of the Members list? Or provide a non-scrolling footer that holds the button? 

For comparison, the website has page navigation links versus the infinite scroll.


locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

Dave Daniel
 

Please, someone, kill this thread? We are not going to rename groups.io.

DaveD

On 1/25/2022 8:02 PM, Steven M via groups.io wrote:
hi everyone. I have a suggestion; we need to pick a much better name for this site!!! I have been trying to repeatedly tell other about this site and its great features!!! there is just one problem.... they forget the name of the site or how to find it, within  ten seconds after I have told it to them repeatedly!!

No one remembers the name "groups.io. they forget the name ten seconds after they talk to me... even if I said it to them ten or twenty times!!!


  • so here's my suggestion: can we please call this site "eGroups"?

Do you see the benefits of using this as a name?!! since that was the original name anyway!! 

How about we attach that name to this site, where it truly, truly belongs??!!! or how about we call it "iGroups"??!! either of those seem fine to me!! please reply, and let me know what you think. I appreciate any and all feedback, comments, ideas, etc.

Thanks!!!!  

Steven 




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locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

Armando (armandovias.com) <armando@...>
 

I also agree as well. I suggest that you send a link to them.

On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:58 PM, Capelle, Michael C. <capellem@...> wrote:



I agree, we need to leave it ast groups.io

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:45 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

 

Steven, I'm sorry but I cannot before this proposal, because it has been groups.io since the very beginning of the service and I've been a part of the service since the beginning. And I think that would make a lot of us have to change our group addresses and everything else and I think that would just be a big problem for a lot of people. May I make a suggestion, that you send them a link to your group homepage, that way that they can market as a favorite so that they can remember where your side is located.



On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Steven M via groups.io <sm890.geo@...> wrote:

 

hi everyone. I have a suggestion; we need to pick a much better name for this site!!! I have been trying to repeatedly tell other about this site and its great features!!! there is just one problem.... they forget the name of the site or how to find it, within  ten seconds after I have told it to them repeatedly!!

No one remembers the name "groups.io. they forget the name ten seconds after they talk to me... even if I said it to them ten or twenty times!!!

  • so here's my suggestion: can we please call this site "eGroups"?


Do you see the benefits of using this as a name?!! since that was the original name anyway!! 

How about we attach that name to this site, where it truly, truly belongs??!!! or how about we call it "iGroups"??!! either of those seem fine to me!! please reply, and let me know what you think. I appreciate any and all feedback, comments, ideas, etc.

Thanks!!!!  

Steven 

 


locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

 

I agree, we need to leave it ast groups.io

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:45 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

 

Steven, I'm sorry but I cannot before this proposal, because it has been groups.io since the very beginning of the service and I've been a part of the service since the beginning. And I think that would make a lot of us have to change our group addresses and everything else and I think that would just be a big problem for a lot of people. May I make a suggestion, that you send them a link to your group homepage, that way that they can market as a favorite so that they can remember where your side is located.



On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Steven M via groups.io <sm890.geo@...> wrote:

 

hi everyone. I have a suggestion; we need to pick a much better name for this site!!! I have been trying to repeatedly tell other about this site and its great features!!! there is just one problem.... they forget the name of the site or how to find it, within  ten seconds after I have told it to them repeatedly!!

No one remembers the name "groups.io. they forget the name ten seconds after they talk to me... even if I said it to them ten or twenty times!!!

  • so here's my suggestion: can we please call this site "eGroups"?


Do you see the benefits of using this as a name?!! since that was the original name anyway!! 

How about we attach that name to this site, where it truly, truly belongs??!!! or how about we call it "iGroups"??!! either of those seem fine to me!! please reply, and let me know what you think. I appreciate any and all feedback, comments, ideas, etc.

Thanks!!!!  

Steven 

 


locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

 

Steven, I'm sorry but I cannot before this proposal, because it has been groups.io since the very beginning of the service and I've been a part of the service since the beginning. And I think that would make a lot of us have to change our group addresses and everything else and I think that would just be a big problem for a lot of people. May I make a suggestion, that you send them a link to your group homepage, that way that they can market as a favorite so that they can remember where your side is located.

On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Steven M via groups.io <sm890.geo@...> wrote:

hi everyone. I have a suggestion; we need to pick a much better name for this site!!! I have been trying to repeatedly tell other about this site and its great features!!! there is just one problem.... they forget the name of the site or how to find it, within  ten seconds after I have told it to them repeatedly!!

No one remembers the name "groups.io. they forget the name ten seconds after they talk to me... even if I said it to them ten or twenty times!!!


  • so here's my suggestion: can we please call this site "eGroups"?

Do you see the benefits of using this as a name?!! since that was the original name anyway!! 

How about we attach that name to this site, where it truly, truly belongs??!!! or how about we call it "iGroups"??!! either of those seem fine to me!! please reply, and let me know what you think. I appreciate any and all feedback, comments, ideas, etc.

Thanks!!!!  

Steven 


locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

 

Would that be like Facebook changing to "Meta"? ;)
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locked Re: we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 01/25/2022 17:02, Steven M via groups.io wrote:
No one remembers the name "groups.io. they forget the name ten seconds after they talk to me... even if I said it to them ten or twenty times!!!

Respectfully, I've never had this problem. All of my group members of my various groups seem to remember the name easily enough when they need it.

Best,

Glenn

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locked we need a better name for this website! so that people can remember it easily! how about "EGROUPS"?!! Please comment!!!! #suggestion

Steven M
 

hi everyone. I have a suggestion; we need to pick a much better name for this site!!! I have been trying to repeatedly tell other about this site and its great features!!! there is just one problem.... they forget the name of the site or how to find it, within  ten seconds after I have told it to them repeatedly!!

No one remembers the name "groups.io. they forget the name ten seconds after they talk to me... even if I said it to them ten or twenty times!!!


  • so here's my suggestion: can we please call this site "eGroups"?

Do you see the benefits of using this as a name?!! since that was the original name anyway!! 

How about we attach that name to this site, where it truly, truly belongs??!!! or how about we call it "iGroups"??!! either of those seem fine to me!! please reply, and let me know what you think. I appreciate any and all feedback, comments, ideas, etc.

Thanks!!!!  

Steven 


moderated Re: Posting Limits #suggestion

Jim F.
 

Henning-

I agree with your point about simplicity--and am sorry for having added bells and whistles to my suggestion.  A moderation option that would allow X posts within Y time period, and either require approval or automatically reject any excess posts, would provide 80% of what I was asking for.  Our group would probably limit posts to 15 or 20 per two-week period.  Others might limit posts to some single-digit number per day. 

Best regards. 

-Jim

On Jan 23, 2022, at 10:31 AM, Henning Schulzrinne <henning.schulzrinne@...> wrote:

I help run a community mailing list with about 1,300 members. We don't moderate posts except for new members - just too much effort. (We do time-out members who don't abide by the rules.) We have a "three posts per day" rule for all the reasons mentioned. It would be really helpful to have a very simple auto-moderation mechanism, where the excess post would be rejected with a suitable message. There's no need for complex rules or behaviors - if the topic is still relevant a day later, the person can send their message then. We suspend the rule, by announcement, during emergency situations like after a hurricane. In general, I think simplicity wins here - you want something straightforward that allows lightly-moderated groups to function better. Even without an automated mechanism, most of the active posters have internalized the 3-post rule, so there are no great surprises.


moderated Re: Posting Limits #suggestion

 

Sorry for thinking in spurts, but it could be like hashtags that moderate vs lock topics. The setting could have three parts: the threshold (number of messages), the time period, and the action (set the member to either “moderated” or “can’t post”). 


On Jan 24, 2022, at 9:35 AM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Speaking of making it similar to new-member moderation, one idea along those lines would be sort of the reverse of new-member moderation: moderate the person‘s messages after they post x messages during the time period (whether that’s a week or a day or whatever). This may not suit the OP because it creates more, not less, work for them, but it’s an idea I’m throwing out there as another possibility.


On Jan 24, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Henning Schulzrinne <henning.schulzrinne@...> wrote:

I don't think "moderator shaming" is helpful or versions of "I don't need it for my group, so nobody needs [feature X]". I see the role of platforms like groups.io to simplify the tedious aspects of moderating groups. Each group has their own history, constraints and culture; I wouldn't judge (or know) the culture and customs for your group. I do think it's helpful to work together to identify a common set of features that would be an improvement for groups that want to restrict posting frequency - and can obviously be safely ignored by those who prefer to rely on moderator actions or don't have the problem of chatterboxes. My general inclination is towards simplicity, e.g., by making it behave similar to some existing moderation feature, such as new-member moderation.

Also, false choices don't help the discussion - no, we won't abandon the group if we don't get the feature. We'd just appreciate having it.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Posting Limits #suggestion

 

Speaking of making it similar to new-member moderation, one idea along those lines would be sort of the reverse of new-member moderation: moderate the person‘s messages after they post x messages during the time period (whether that’s a week or a day or whatever). This may not suit the OP because it creates more, not less, work for them, but it’s an idea I’m throwing out there as another possibility.


On Jan 24, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Henning Schulzrinne <henning.schulzrinne@...> wrote:

I don't think "moderator shaming" is helpful or versions of "I don't need it for my group, so nobody needs [feature X]". I see the role of platforms like groups.io to simplify the tedious aspects of moderating groups. Each group has their own history, constraints and culture; I wouldn't judge (or know) the culture and customs for your group. I do think it's helpful to work together to identify a common set of features that would be an improvement for groups that want to restrict posting frequency - and can obviously be safely ignored by those who prefer to rely on moderator actions or don't have the problem of chatterboxes. My general inclination is towards simplicity, e.g., by making it behave similar to some existing moderation feature, such as new-member moderation.

Also, false choices don't help the discussion - no, we won't abandon the group if we don't get the feature. We'd just appreciate having it.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Posting Limits #suggestion

Pete Cook
 

I agree. No one here is in a position to say whether something is or isn't "too much work" for someone else, or whether something is "likely the wrong job" for another moderator. Just stop. 

Pete


moderated Re: Posting Limits #suggestion

Henning Schulzrinne
 

I don't think "moderator shaming" is helpful or versions of "I don't need it for my group, so nobody needs [feature X]". I see the role of platforms like groups.io to simplify the tedious aspects of moderating groups. Each group has their own history, constraints and culture; I wouldn't judge (or know) the culture and customs for your group. I do think it's helpful to work together to identify a common set of features that would be an improvement for groups that want to restrict posting frequency - and can obviously be safely ignored by those who prefer to rely on moderator actions or don't have the problem of chatterboxes. My general inclination is towards simplicity, e.g., by making it behave similar to some existing moderation feature, such as new-member moderation.

Also, false choices don't help the discussion - no, we won't abandon the group if we don't get the feature. We'd just appreciate having it.


moderated Make wiki public/private access granular by page #suggestion

 

Most of my group's wiki pages need to be private, and we therefore set the wiki for member, not public, access only. But there are a few pages that I would like to open up to the public so that I can refer non-members to them, and this happens quite frequently. These are pages with very general information about the disease we deal with, resources for things like pet loss, etc.

There's no way currently to do that because member vs public access is all or nothing. The suggestion is to make public or member-only access a function of each separate wiki page rather than the wiki as a whole. I think there could still be an overall default for the group setting, subject to change on each page; or possibly a group setting could be added to indicate that public vs private access is a function of the particular page.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: #suggestion - default sort in database #suggestion

Jim AF3Z <jagoudie@...>
 

Mark,

I’m not talking about anything arbitrary.  The admin of that group would pick which column to sort by.  
Perhaps a simple checkbox could be used to indicate the column by which you want the table to be sorted.

Thanks
Jim

Jim Goudie   —  jagoudie@...
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On Jan 24, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 8:22 AM Jim AF3Z <jagoudie@...> wrote:

I would love to see it possible to set the sort function in the databases to default to a column other than ID.  We use it for scheduling and it would be so much better if it automatically sorted by our day/time column. 

For an arbitrary database, how do I pick which column to sort by?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:44 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

With a screen reader, I can no longer find that side menu when visiting a groups page. Did that change as well? How can I get to settings, and admin controls if that sidebar list of items is no longer present?

Next time, please start a new topic for this.

Nothing has changed with the side menu. When was the last time it worked for you?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #suggestion - default sort in database #suggestion

 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 8:22 AM Jim AF3Z <jagoudie@...> wrote:

I would love to see it possible to set the sort function in the databases to default to a column other than ID.  We use it for scheduling and it would be so much better if it automatically sorted by our day/time column. 

For an arbitrary database, how do I pick which column to sort by?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated #suggestion - default sort in database #suggestion

Jim AF3Z <jagoudie@...>
 

Hello,

I've used groups.io for years... and I think I've suggested this before.  It seems rather simple and obvious, but...

I would love to see it possible to set the sort function in the databases to default to a column other than ID.  We use it for scheduling and it would be so much better if it automatically sorted by our day/time column.   Only the admins have any need to sort by ID.  Everybody else needs to see the entires sorted by day/time.  After editing, saving, adding to the database, it goes back to being sorted by ID... That causes entry errors, scheduling conflicts are missed.... etc.  aargh!

So... please ;-) add a means of setting the default sort to a column other than the ID.

Thanks!  --Jim


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 03:44 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:
With a screen reader, I can no longer find that side menu when visiting a groups page.
has the width of your browser window changed? If it narrows beyond a certain point, the display will switch to a mobile device format and the side menu options move to the hamburger icon at the bottom of the screen.

Regards
Andy

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