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moderated Re: Whole lotta groups.io messages going into spam this past week #misc

Glenn Glazer
 

On 11/27/2021 09:46, J_Catlady wrote:
This may be related: ever since this started happening, 100% of my bcc's to myself of private replies have had the warning "This looks like spam" and asked me to check "spam" or "looks safe."100%. Not one has made it through to me (I use gmail) without the warning. I always mark them "looks safe" but that hasn't stopped the behavior.
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J

FWIW, I use gmail and I just went through my spam folder and found exactly zero GIO emails. I also don't bcc myself, perhaps that is the difference.

Best,

Glenn

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


moderated Re: Whole lotta groups.io messages going into spam this past week #misc

 

Thanks. I’m basically just reporting this as another indication of something being “off.”

On Nov 27, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Donald Hellen <donhellen@roadrunner.com> wrote:

J . . .

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:46:51 -0800, "J_Catlady" <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com>
wrote:

Not one has made it through to me (I use gmail) without the warning. I always mark them "looks safe" but that hasn't stopped the behavior.
I find that Gmail's spam "training" doesn't work very well. Despite marking some
email as not spam (maybe it's not junk) it still routes email from the same
address into the spam folder.

But it sounds like it's much worse than usual right now for GIO messages.

My Roadrunner email is OK only because I turned off the spam filter and have
suspected spam sent to my inbox with "SPAM:" at the beginning of the subject
line. It misses a lot of REAL spam though and doesn't append that to the subject
line on some that actually are spam. So I use my email program's Bayesian (sp?)
filtering to train it and it does a good job most of the time. Sometimes I have
to create a custom filter for a spammer who changes the from address but at
least I don't have to look at most of them.

Getting to the Roadrunner spam filtering system and folder is not intuitive and
most people don't even know it's there. You don't get any "user guide" for their
email to warn you.

Donald


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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
https://groups.io/g/ICOM https://groups.io/g/Ham-Antennas
https://groups.io/g/HamRadioHelp https://groups.io/g/Baofeng
https://groups.io/g/CHIRP https://rf-amplifiers.groups.io/g/main




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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Whole lotta groups.io messages going into spam this past week #misc

Donald Hellen
 

J . . .

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:46:51 -0800, "J_Catlady" <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com>
wrote:

Not one has made it through to me (I use gmail) without the warning. I always mark them "looks safe" but that hasn't stopped the behavior.
I find that Gmail's spam "training" doesn't work very well. Despite marking some
email as not spam (maybe it's not junk) it still routes email from the same
address into the spam folder.

But it sounds like it's much worse than usual right now for GIO messages.

My Roadrunner email is OK only because I turned off the spam filter and have
suspected spam sent to my inbox with "SPAM:" at the beginning of the subject
line. It misses a lot of REAL spam though and doesn't append that to the subject
line on some that actually are spam. So I use my email program's Bayesian (sp?)
filtering to train it and it does a good job most of the time. Sometimes I have
to create a custom filter for a spammer who changes the from address but at
least I don't have to look at most of them.

Getting to the Roadrunner spam filtering system and folder is not intuitive and
most people don't even know it's there. You don't get any "user guide" for their
email to warn you.

Donald


----------------------------------------------------
Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
https://groups.io/g/ICOM https://groups.io/g/Ham-Antennas
https://groups.io/g/HamRadioHelp https://groups.io/g/Baofeng
https://groups.io/g/CHIRP https://rf-amplifiers.groups.io/g/main


moderated Re: Whole lotta groups.io messages going into spam this past week #misc

 

This may be related: ever since this started happening, 100% of my bcc's to myself of private replies have had the warning "This looks like spam" and asked me to check "spam" or "looks safe."100%. Not one has made it through to me (I use gmail) without the warning. I always mark them "looks safe" but that hasn't stopped the behavior.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Where's Mark #admin

Bob Bellizzi
 

Thanks, Mark, for all of your hard work to make groups.io a success 
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Bob Bellizzi
FuchsFriends@groups.io online  support  group for corneal dystrophy patients & caregivers
The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation 


moderated Re: Where's Mark #admin

 

Mark,
Have a great holiday break. :-)
J and kitties
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Where's Mark #admin

Pat Pratt
 

Have a blessed and wonderful holiday season
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Pat Pratt


moderated Re: Where's Mark #admin

 

Enjoy whatever break you can wrest out of the time. 
Thanks for making and keeping Groups.io what is has become. 


On Nov 24, 2021, at 20:17, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:



Hi All,

Just a quick note that, somehow, I've ended up with a very busy end-of-year, with a bunch of travel and family stuff starting now and going through the end of December. Also, I have some technical debt that needs to be addressed within the system (that means parts of the site that need internal updates or fixes, without necessarily adding new features). I've already started on that this week, with the upgrade of the Fullcalendar code (that's the open source software that I use to display the calendar on the website). Finally, I also need to take some vacation.

So, I won't be as responsive as normal during this time, and responses to emails to support may occasionally be delayed. The next #changelog will be published on Friday, January 7th, 2022.

I hope you and yours have a good holiday season. And thank you for using Groups.io!

Cheers,
Mark


moderated Where's Mark #admin

 

Hi All,

Just a quick note that, somehow, I've ended up with a very busy end-of-year, with a bunch of travel and family stuff starting now and going through the end of December. Also, I have some technical debt that needs to be addressed within the system (that means parts of the site that need internal updates or fixes, without necessarily adding new features). I've already started on that this week, with the upgrade of the Fullcalendar code (that's the open source software that I use to display the calendar on the website). Finally, I also need to take some vacation.

So, I won't be as responsive as normal during this time, and responses to emails to support may occasionally be delayed. The next #changelog will be published on Friday, January 7th, 2022.

I hope you and yours have a good holiday season. And thank you for using Groups.io!

Cheers,
Mark


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

November 24, 2021:

November 23, 2021:

  • BUGFIX: When changing selection criteria in the activity log, the sort was forced into ascending. We now default it to decending, to match the default view. Discussion
  • INTERNAL: Updated Fullcalendar to latest version.

November 22, 2021:

  • CHANGE: For any email parts with Content-Transfer-Encoding of 7bit that we are addding a footer to, convert them to quoted-printable, to ensure that any long lines are wrapped, in accordance to email specs.

November 21, 2021:

  • BUGFIX: If changing a member's email delivery from one of the digests to a different delivery, in some cases the delivery would be changed to an option that was not selected.

The next #changelog will be published on Friday, January 7th 2022.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Calendar list view display format issue when scrolling #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 03:44 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It was a rendering bug on Firefox. It should be fixed now.
 
Yes, all good now. Thanks for the quick response.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Calendar list view display format issue when scrolling #bug

 

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:25 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

when viewing a calendar in List format, if the number of events makes the list scrollable then they overlay the date header as you scroll down the list.

It was a rendering bug on Firefox. It should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Calendar list view display format issue when scrolling #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

when viewing a calendar in List format, if the number of events makes the list scrollable then they overlay the date header as you scroll down the list.





Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Chrono order is reversed when you click on new selection criterion in activity log #bug

Pete Cook
 

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 07:20 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
This should be fixed now.
It is, indeed. Thanks, Mark!

Pete


moderated Re: Chrono order is reversed when you click on new selection criterion in activity log #bug

 

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:48 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I have a vague memory of this happening in times past, and possibly even a discussion about it here, but had not noticed it occurring in full force until a few days ago, and now it always happens: if I'm viewing the group activity log, which comes up with "all activity" as the default, it's in reverse chrono order, as it should be. But if I then click on any specific filter, e.g., "message activity," it immediately reverses and I'm seeing messages from 2015. And from then on, clicking on any other criterion, or even "all activity" itself again, doesn't reverse it back. They all show up with 2015 entries at the top. The only way to reverse it back is to click on the date ("created") column.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Chrono order is reversed when you click on new selection criterion in activity log #bug

 

Beat me to it, I had this in my drafts as I was going to submit it.

The problem is that while the Search button uses (the page?) default of CreatedDESC, the URLs for the buttons have the CreatedASC sort hardcoded:

<group>/activity?p=,???,,0,1,0,0

I think changing the 1 to 0 will inherit the "page default" of CreatedDESC, if that's how that works, instead of setting it to 2, force it to CreatedDESC.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Erratic behavior of Merge Topic #bug

 

I was just commenting because the way you put it struck me funny. :-) 

I don’t use Meege any more because the email threads stay separate and people keep replying to both. Merging was becoming Sisyphysean (sp). 

BTW if you don’t like the appendages, you can set your entire group to MF so that any new topics are automatically moderated (just like in beta), allowing you to fix the title before the message even goes through.


On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Andy <AI.egrps+io@...> wrote:

I have come to "love" (?) the Merge function.  We have some members in our group whose replies come with extra appendages in the Subject line, and this causes them to be separate Topics in the group.  I prefer keeping them together, so that anyone can read one Topic and see the whole thread in one place, rather than scattered and difficult to follow.

Andy

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Erratic behavior of Merge Topic #bug

Andy
 

I have come to "love" (?) the Merge function.  We have some members in our group whose replies come with extra appendages in the Subject line, and this causes them to be separate Topics in the group.  I prefer keeping them together, so that anyone can read one Topic and see the whole thread in one place, rather than scattered and difficult to follow.

Andy


moderated Re: Chrono order is reversed when you click on new selection criterion in activity log #bug

 

It can be more than annoying. People may not realize at first that the order switched. Even now, though I realize what’s happening (and some mods might not), it’s always a slight shock to see messages I that don’t belong (look weird and unexpected) at the top, and takes me a few seconds to get my bearings and click on “created.” And also, if clicking on a column is what causes the reversal, you would expect it to reverse by clicking on another column. But it doesn’t. It just stays that way ad Infinitum.


On Nov 22, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Peter Cook <peterscottcook@...> wrote:

I think I reported this some time back. It's annoying and happens in the iOS app as well.

Pete

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Chrono order is reversed when you click on new selection criterion in activity log #bug

Pete Cook
 

think I reported this some time back. It's annoying and happens in the iOS app as well.

Pete

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