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moderated Re: Topic count on Hashtag page incorrect #misc

Andy
 

In my group, all the ones I checked were correct.

I wonder if yours had topics that were deleted?  Or merged?

Andy


moderated Topic count on Hashtag page incorrect #misc

Tom Vail
 

The count in the hashtag box on the # hashtag page is not correct.  Example: The screen shot below shows 2 topics with this hashtag, but in fact there is only one.  I have others which lists 2 but there are none.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tom



moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

One thing that would be helpful is reduced Topic Durations.  I made a suggestion a while back, which I'm sure is/was not a high priority, but if there was an option to delete a topic in a 3 or 6 month Topic Duration, then it would restrict the need for so many regions.  A 1 year Topic Duration leaves too much time for moving through the network.

Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

The original objective was to post plans for 6 or 7 months out, which could include more than 5 regions, especially up in the Canada/Great Lakes area.  One option, is to limit the time horizon so as to limit the number of regions.  But you now how it is when you get a design in your head, you want to make it work.

Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Duane
 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 03:33 PM, Tom Vail wrote:
 I set it up so each region had its own hashtag, but with a limit of 5 it drastically reduces the effectiveness of the group...as in not worth doing.
Since there can be up to 5 for each topic, I don't understand why you'd need more than that.  I understand that someone may go to Mexico, Bahamas, etc, but would they need their entire itinerary (hashtags) on one topic?  If I'm reading your information correctly, each person/topic would only be in one region at a time.  Seems that one hashtag would do that.  I could see having 2 or 3 if they're moving from region to region within a short time.  If it's not so much which people, but which regions, you could have a topic for each region that folks would add to when they get there.

Duane


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

I have a group of boaters who travel up and down the east coast, over to the Bahamas, up into Canada, and down the inland river system (some are doing the Great Loop).  The group was intended to allow members to post their cruising regions son folks would know when/where other are traveling, but there are about 20 regions.  I set it up so each region had its own hashtag, but with a limit of 5 it drastically reduces the effectiveness of the group...as in not worth doing.

Any suggestions would be more than welcome.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:19 PM Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:
How soon will next time be?  I just designed a group based on more hashtags, but am now dead in the water.  (I need twice that many.)

That's a lot. Can you give some more information? Maybe the group can find a work around for you?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:14 PM Glenn Glazer <glenn.glazer@...> wrote:

I'm guessing differently means a join on a lookup table rather columns in one table.

Correct. Or, store them as a json blob, or something else. I do almost no joins in the entire system. 

Mark


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

How soon will next time be?  I just designed a group based on more hashtags, but am now dead in the water.  (I need twice that many.)

Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Glenn Glazer
 

On 11/09/2021 13:07, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Not right now. It's an artifact of how I store things in the database (insert a "I'd do it differently next time" here).

Thanks,
Mark 

I'm guessing differently means a join on a lookup table rather columns in one table.

Best,

Glenn

--
#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:02 PM Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:
Is there a way around the 5 hashtag limit to ant topic?  (A search did not produce anything on the subject.)

Not right now. It's an artifact of how I store things in the database (insert a "I'd do it differently next time" here).

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #suggestion Member Notice for Donations or Sponsorships #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I agree that something needs to be added. How about this:

- For donations and sponsorship payments, we send out an acknowledgement email with the amount, group name, etc. Very similar to the invoice email we send out now when we bill a group.
- I also add a member notice that gets sent upon a group sponsorship.

What I'm not sure about is with donations, since you can have multiple different donations. It seems like there's a mismatch with the member notifications, which are group wide, and not specific to a particular donation request.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

Is there a way around the 5 hashtag limit to ant topic?  (A search did not produce anything on the subject.)

Thanks, Tom


moderated Re: Strip winmail.dat file from incoming group messages #suggestion

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:21 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Do we know if any other email service (Gmail/Yahoo/etc) strips these attachments?
 
Thanks,
Mark 
It's a MIME format message segment. I don't think anybody drops it. Outside of Microsoft, there's also not much support for it.

Here's some background info from Mozilla.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-winmaildat-attachment

I work on KDE's email software. There's a program that is supposed to handle these attachments, but I've never been able to make it work.
https://invent.kde.org/pim/ktnef
 
FWIW, my group generates 300 - 400 messages per month, and I moderate all attachments. I have never seen a winmail.dat atttachment in the moderation queue. I have seen a lot of attachments on messages composed by Mail for Windows 10, but those have all been small .png images (a dot, or a line). I tell my members when I see these, and most people have been able to correct the misconfiguration without a lot of help.
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David Bryant
Canyon Lake, Texas
https://t-vog.groups.io/g/main    https://davidcbryant.net


moderated Re: Strip winmail.dat file from incoming group messages #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 01:21 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Do we know if any other email service (Gmail/Yahoo/etc) strips these attachments?
Mark -- My own provider...tds.net...does not strip it; it arrives in a separate MIME part just as groups.io sent it. I cannot speak to what other providers may do.

I'm not so concerned about what arrives in email as what builds up in the message archive. I see no reason to store it if the online message reader isn't going to render it.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Strip winmail.dat file from incoming group messages #suggestion

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 3:34 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Outlook inserts a winmail.dat file in virtually every outgoing message. Only other Outlook clients do anything with it.

I suggest stripping these so they do not continue to proliferate as useless attachments.

Do we know if any other email service (Gmail/Yahoo/etc) strips these attachments?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Really lock a topic #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I did have one idea:
 
- Revert the initial change so that when a topic is locked, it's really locked and nobody can post to it
- For mods/owners, add a checkbox on the Post/Reply pages that says something like `Lock this topic after posting this`
 
I like the idea of saying that if a topic is locked then nobody can post to it.  It sounds like the checkbox on the reply/post pages would be equivalent of using a hashtag with the 'Locked' attribute set or manually locking the topic after posting. Am I understanding that correctly?  If so, that works for me.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Really lock a topic #suggestion

Ken Schweizer
 

Hi Mark,

I like the combination as sometimes an owner might want to post the reason the topic is locked and item two seems to give us a way to do that in one step.

Ken S

 

“You do what you can for as long as you can, and when you finally can’t, you do the next best thing. You back up but you don’t give up.” ―Chuck Yeager

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Really lock a topic #suggestion

 

Hi All,

 

I'm leaning towards no changes, but I did have one idea:

 

- Revert the initial change so that when a topic is locked, it's really locked and nobody can post to it

- For mods/owners, add a checkbox on the Post/Reply pages that says something like `Lock this topic after posting this`

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Re: Really lock a topic #suggestion

 

I prefer the "no changes" option but could live with the checkbox.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Really lock a topic #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I'm leaning towards no changes, but I did have one idea:

- Revert the initial change so that when a topic is locked, it's really locked and nobody can post to it
- For mods/owners, add a checkbox on the Post/Reply pages that says something like `Lock this topic after posting this`

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark

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