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moderated Re: Topic count on Hashtag page incorrect #misc

Tom Vail
 

No mergers, but yes have some deleted.  But there have been more delete than the one remaining?


moderated Re: Links to within document broken in updated file when uploaded to the group #misc

 

Nina found the issue! She sent me this (I trust it's ok with her to quote):

 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/internal-links-not-working-in-pdf/d91991c7-1f7a-4dff-bfe9-b2aa404a9c77.
"It appears there was an issue with internal links in PDF files generated from Word, and Microsoft issued a patch for the Windows version; however, it’s not yet working on Mac according to the latest replies in that thread, which are dated October 27 at this writing."

It turns out I was wrong that the pdf links work the in un-uploaded document. They don't. :-) So this is just the Mac bug.
Thanks, Nina!

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moderated Re: Links to within document broken in updated file when uploaded to the group #misc

 

p.s. Nina, if you are reading and happen to know the answer or solution to this (I suspect you might?), please feel free to let me know either onlist or in a PM! I didn't post this to docs because the issue doesn't really belong there, but I suspect you are reading here.
Thanks!
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moderated Links to within document broken in updated file when uploaded to the group #misc

 

Yesterday, I revised one of my group's major informational pdf files and uploaded the revised file to my group's Files section. This file contains many links to within the document itself. Before the update, the links all worked. But in the new document, although the links work when the document is viewed in Word (i.e., outside of groups.io), they are all broken when you view the document in the group.

I don't know whether this is a bug, or whether I'm asking for help with what is possibly a Word issue, or whether there is possibly a groups.io incompatibility with a newer version of Word. (Today I will probably create a small test file in my test group to try to check this out.) I do know that in between the old and the updated document, I updated Word. Formerly, I had an older version running on an older Mac. I got a new Mac this summer and at that point I subscribed to the new MS Word. In case anyone is about to suggest it, I did select the pdf version that's best for links, etc. (as opposed to for printing).

I need to update this document, and right now, I am not able to. I had to revert to the older version once I noticed the problem.

Would appreciate any insight into this.

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moderated Sponsorship balance display option #suggestion

Duane
 

I'd like to see an option, probably a checkbox, under the "Allow Sponsorships" Settings box that would allow the current balance to be displayed next to the Sponsor button for group members.  I don't think it's a critical bit of information, but would make things a little more transparent to members.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: Strip winmail.dat file from incoming group messages #suggestion

David M
 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 3:34 PM Bruce Bowman <<mailto:bruce.bowman@tds.net>bruce.bowman@tds.net> wrote:

Outlook inserts a winmail.dat file in virtually every outgoing message. Only other Outlook clients do anything with it.

I suggest stripping these so they do not continue to proliferate as useless attachments.

Do we know if any other email service (Gmail/Yahoo/etc) strips these attachments?
Gmail converts them so no need to strip them.

Need to be aware that while they may be RTF versions of the text in a message, they can also be files added as attachments. Multiple files actually, since all attachments are bundled up into one winmail.dat file.

David


moderated Re: Strip winmail.dat file from incoming group messages #suggestion

David M
 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:34 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Outlook inserts a winmail.dat file in virtually every outgoing message. Only other Outlook clients do anything with it.

I understand that these are generated when the Sender is using Rich Text Format and the answer would seem to be to switch to HTML or Plain Text. <https://gcits.com/knowledge-base/how-to-fix-the-winmail-dat-attachment-issue/>https://gcits.com/knowledge-base/how-to-fix-the-winmail-dat-attachment-issue/
This is only a solution when the person's e-mail server is Exchange. For people using Outlook or POP or IMAP, the problem will remain.

David


moderated Re: Strip winmail.dat file from incoming group messages #suggestion

David M
 

Outlook inserts a winmail.dat file in virtually every outgoing message. Only other Outlook clients do anything with it.
Not true. Gmail can extract it. Recent versions of Thunderbird can extract it.

I suggest stripping these so they do not continue to proliferate as useless attachments.
They are not useless attachments. It turns out that when Outlook is set to RTF, *any* attachment is made into a winmail.dat. So if you delete them, then you are deleting valid attachments that are a part of the message.

Fixing it is tedious. This can be fixed for *new* recipients by setting Outlook to not use RTF. However, for any contact you have sent a message using RTF, it remembers and continues to send them as RTF with attachments as winmail.dat files. It is possible to edit the setting for each contact to stop it using RTF. Messages sent to those people no longer get the attachments inserted as normal attachments.

Deleting winmail.dat files is not the answer. Educate your users how to change the setting for the group e-mail address if you want to stop winmail.dats ending up in your group.

David


moderated Re: Topic count on Hashtag page incorrect #misc

Andy
 

In my group, all the ones I checked were correct.

I wonder if yours had topics that were deleted?  Or merged?

Andy


moderated Topic count on Hashtag page incorrect #misc

Tom Vail
 

The count in the hashtag box on the # hashtag page is not correct.  Example: The screen shot below shows 2 topics with this hashtag, but in fact there is only one.  I have others which lists 2 but there are none.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tom



moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

One thing that would be helpful is reduced Topic Durations.  I made a suggestion a while back, which I'm sure is/was not a high priority, but if there was an option to delete a topic in a 3 or 6 month Topic Duration, then it would restrict the need for so many regions.  A 1 year Topic Duration leaves too much time for moving through the network.

Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

The original objective was to post plans for 6 or 7 months out, which could include more than 5 regions, especially up in the Canada/Great Lakes area.  One option, is to limit the time horizon so as to limit the number of regions.  But you now how it is when you get a design in your head, you want to make it work.

Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Duane
 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 03:33 PM, Tom Vail wrote:
 I set it up so each region had its own hashtag, but with a limit of 5 it drastically reduces the effectiveness of the group...as in not worth doing.
Since there can be up to 5 for each topic, I don't understand why you'd need more than that.  I understand that someone may go to Mexico, Bahamas, etc, but would they need their entire itinerary (hashtags) on one topic?  If I'm reading your information correctly, each person/topic would only be in one region at a time.  Seems that one hashtag would do that.  I could see having 2 or 3 if they're moving from region to region within a short time.  If it's not so much which people, but which regions, you could have a topic for each region that folks would add to when they get there.

Duane


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

I have a group of boaters who travel up and down the east coast, over to the Bahamas, up into Canada, and down the inland river system (some are doing the Great Loop).  The group was intended to allow members to post their cruising regions son folks would know when/where other are traveling, but there are about 20 regions.  I set it up so each region had its own hashtag, but with a limit of 5 it drastically reduces the effectiveness of the group...as in not worth doing.

Any suggestions would be more than welcome.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:19 PM Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:
How soon will next time be?  I just designed a group based on more hashtags, but am now dead in the water.  (I need twice that many.)

That's a lot. Can you give some more information? Maybe the group can find a work around for you?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:14 PM Glenn Glazer <glenn.glazer@...> wrote:

I'm guessing differently means a join on a lookup table rather columns in one table.

Correct. Or, store them as a json blob, or something else. I do almost no joins in the entire system. 

Mark


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Tom Vail
 

How soon will next time be?  I just designed a group based on more hashtags, but am now dead in the water.  (I need twice that many.)

Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

Glenn Glazer
 

On 11/09/2021 13:07, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Not right now. It's an artifact of how I store things in the database (insert a "I'd do it differently next time" here).

Thanks,
Mark 

I'm guessing differently means a join on a lookup table rather columns in one table.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Hashtag Limit #misc

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:02 PM Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:
Is there a way around the 5 hashtag limit to ant topic?  (A search did not produce anything on the subject.)

Not right now. It's an artifact of how I store things in the database (insert a "I'd do it differently next time" here).

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #suggestion Member Notice for Donations or Sponsorships #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I agree that something needs to be added. How about this:

- For donations and sponsorship payments, we send out an acknowledgement email with the amount, group name, etc. Very similar to the invoice email we send out now when we bill a group.
- I also add a member notice that gets sent upon a group sponsorship.

What I'm not sure about is with donations, since you can have multiple different donations. It seems like there's a mismatch with the member notifications, which are group wide, and not specific to a particular donation request.

Thanks,
Mark

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